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Reply #45 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:55am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

JuLiar,
Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and housekeeping.

Does JuLiar still believe this today?

Does this mean that women don't enjoy sex?

it is a truly appalling statement to make or believe. Juliar is of course, a disgrace.

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #46 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:02am

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

JuLiar,
Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and housekeeping.

Does JuLiar still believe this today?

Does this mean that women don't enjoy sex?

it is a truly appalling statement to make or believe. Juliar is of course, a disgrace.

Ok..even though Julia didnt actually say that all mothers are prostitutes why are women that exchange sex for money and a comfortable life where they never have to work not prostituting themselves?
Explain how this statement is wrong?

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #47 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:03am

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:38am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:15am:

Bet nobody can show us where gillard actually said this?

As usual the Macca title is most likely 100% untrue.

she was head of the ASU which actually promted terrorism violence and calling mothers prostitutes.

she said it alright.

she said it alright

Would that be an assumption you are making?

she was head of the ASU which actually promted terrorism violence and calling mothers prostitutes.

That was the interpretation put on what they actually said, it wasn't what the statment meant.

The title of the thread clearly states that Gillard has made a precise statment which is clearly untrue

promted terrorism violence

No there was a motion defeated to oppose all acts of terrorism and political violence, that is very different.

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #48 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:03am

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

JuLiar,
Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and housekeeping.

Does JuLiar still believe this today?

Does this mean that women don't enjoy sex?

it is a truly appalling statement to make or believe. Juliar is of course, a disgrace.

Dear Longweekend,
I agree with you -
you see - I do agree with you sometimes - I am a fair person.
I have forgiven you for all that you've ever said on Ozpolitics -
see the relationship section of this forum.

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #49 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:07am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:44am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:40am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:21am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:17am:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:03am:

a true class act from Gillard.

I bet her mother is SO proud.

I would bet that her mother is justifiably proud and that the title of this thread is another Macca untruth.

Her parents are welsh.
That lot are proud if their kids just hold a job over £5 per hour!

Not exactly high bench setters are our odd little neighbours.
Once a Welsh, always one.

There are some rather ugly stereotypes about Poms and South Africans too you know?

Had a tub yet this year Andrei?

Probably about as invalid as the one you used? / I hope.

The difference being I grew up next to this lot and know what they are like.

Yours is mythical nonsense.

Yours is mythical nonsense

It is actually based on a rather sensible fact to my understanding?

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #50 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:12am

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:02am:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

JuLiar,
Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and housekeeping.

Does JuLiar still believe this today?

Does this mean that women don't enjoy sex?

it is a truly appalling statement to make or believe. Juliar is of course, a disgrace.

Ok..even though Julia didnt actually say that all mothers are prostitutes why are women that exchange sex for money and a comfortable life where they never have to work not prostituting themselves?
Explain how this statement is wrong?

Would that be your mummy Wink

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes Reply #51 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:24am I don't believe that Gillard said that at all and i'm not even a Bogan...
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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #52 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:29am

FRED. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:12am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:02am:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

JuLiar,
Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and housekeeping.

Does JuLiar still believe this today?

Does this mean that women don't enjoy sex?

it is a truly appalling statement to make or believe. Juliar is of course, a disgrace.

Ok..even though Julia didnt actually say that all mothers are prostitutes why are women that exchange sex for money and a comfortable life where they never have to work not prostituting themselves?
Explain how this statement is wrong?

Would that be your mummy Wink

Of course Gimp...thats exactly what I was saying the anti female movement was saying in response to Julias statement Grin

Its good to see you so clear headed in the morning Cheesy

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #53 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:36am

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:03am:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:38am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:15am:

Bet nobody can show us where gillard actually said this?

As usual the Macca title is most likely 100% untrue.

she was head of the ASU which actually promted terrorism violence and calling mothers prostitutes.

she said it alright.

she said it alright

Would that be an assumption you are making?

she was head of the ASU which actually promted terrorism violence and calling mothers prostitutes.

That was the interpretation put on what they actually said, it wasn't what the statment meant.

The title of the thread clearly states that Gillard has made a precise statment which is clearly untrue

promted terrorism violence

No there was a motion defeated to oppose all acts of terrorism and political violence, that is very different.

is it really??? it is semantically different but in practice it meant they DIDNT oppose terrorism and violence which is effectively the same thing as supporting it.

no matter how you view it , it was a reprehensible statement that you seem to decline to oppose.

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #54 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:41am

Bobby. wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:52am:

JuLiar,
Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and housekeeping.

Does JuLiar still believe this today?

Does this mean that women don't enjoy sex?

Prostitution in marriage is the transaction of sex in return for love, security and housekeeping.

The belief dove tails nicely into Tony Abbotts view of Woman

"What the housewives of Australia need to understand as they do the ironing ...",

http://www.theage.com.au/national/eighttime-nominee-abbott-stars-again-at-ernie-...

Does this mean that women don't enjoy sex?

Interesting question?

Do prostitutes enjot sex?

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes Reply #55 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:48am So the "mothers are prostitute" comment does not offend you but the ironing comment is more earth shattering??!!
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105478 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes Reply #56 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:48am Quote: Does this mean that women don't enjoy sex? Nature has programmed women to enjoy sex - that's the process of natural selection - ones who didn't enjoy sex have procreated less so sex enjoying DNA types have survived more.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes Reply #57 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:56am Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:41am: Interesting question? Do prostitutes enjot sex? Some do. Some don't. I watched an interesting programme on the subject a while back.
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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #58 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 9:01am

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:36am:

is it really??? it is semantically different but in practice it meant they DIDNT oppose terrorism and violence which is effectively the same thing as supporting it.

no matter how you view it , it was a reprehensible statement that you seem to decline to oppose.

DIDNT oppose terrorism and violence

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all

acts of terrorism and

political

violence".

I do not know the context of the discussion or the reasoning but I do not support what the statmets infer was said in any way.

Many people do not oppose

all

political violence, for many years we supported what was happening in Israel and the illegal invasion of Iraq was a politically violent action, the work of the French resistance in WW2 was a form of terrorism that we supported.

With no context to measure against it is difficult to know what they actually meant and I am not comfortable to take the word of our current mob of supposed journalists or reporters in terms of accuracy honesty or integrity.

I have still seen nothing to connect Julia with supporting these statments other than her position at the time.

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #59 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 9:10am

Maqqa wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:48am:

So the "mothers are prostitute" comment does not offend you but the ironing comment is more earth shattering??!!

Neither comment offends me particularly. Feminists have been using the prostitution in marage argument for decades and Tony's opinion is just his expectation from his upbringing and sheltered position, He has the view left over from his previous generation (conservative). The seafood didnt offend me either.

This has survived largely because he has had an economic position allowing him to differ from the average Australian where a working wife is a necessity and sharing housework becomes the norm.

ironing comment is more earth shattering

I just used it because of the way it dove tails into what Julia probably didn't say

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