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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #90 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:07pm

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:04pm:

i ahve no reason whatsoever to believe that she does not

still

have these views. of course she could clarify it but she won - she never does. she'd lie anyhow so why would anyone listen?

You also have no reason what so ever to believe that she ever held those views personally but seem happy to put that fact aside.

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Reply #91 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:18pm

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

So, to clarify here - it's okay to bring up things about Abbott from 20-30 years ago, which are unproven and lack any evidence, but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

And as I said, Gillard clearly lacks respect for mothers when she slept with (at least two, probably more) men who were married with children at the time.

but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

What evidence?

what crime?

how does the statment connect to Gillards beliefs, did she support that position?

Where is this evidence you talk about? I havn't seen it yet.

In terms of Mr Abbotts record of in relation to bullying and violence or near violence and intimidation the fact is he was taken to court on a sex charge and there were witnesses who said he threw punches towards a woman. I don't believe it credabble to suggest it didn't happen.

But on the other hand the young Liberals have an attrocious record on what they have said and done over the years and I doubt that Abbott was any different if people want to look at his statments as a uni student.

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #93 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:40pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

So, to clarify here - it's okay to bring up things about Abbott from 20-30 years ago, which are unproven and lack any evidence, but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

And as I said, Gillard clearly lacks respect for mothers when she slept with (at least two, probably more) men who were married with children at the time.

but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

What evidence?

what crime?

how does the statment connect to Gillards beliefs, did she support that position?

Where is this evidence you talk about? I havn't seen it yet.

In terms of Mr Abbotts record of in relation to bullying and violence or near violence and intimidation the fact is he was taken to court on a sex charge and there were witnesses who said he threw punches towards a woman. I don't believe it credabble to suggest it didn't happen.

But on the other hand the young Liberals have an attrocious record on what they have said and done over the years and I doubt that Abbott was any different if people want to look at his statments as a uni student.

You see matty

according to the left anything that Gillard does is forgivable

But if Abbott does anything even as much as sneeze - he should be tarred and feathered

They hold him to a much higher standard of scrutiny compared to Gillard not because of any moral standards within themselves but rather it suits a political purpose

So you can show dna evidence beyond reasonable doubt - but lefties will continue to doubt. Not because due to the quality of the evidence but rather the blind devotion the show to the left

Their inability to accept 1200 pages FWA report should show you their blindness

Their inability to accept that those coming on boats are called ILLEGALS despite references to the Migration Act

Their inability to accept that Mandatory Detention is acceptable under the UN Refugee Convention

Their inability to accept that the person applying for asylum has an obligation to accept and abide by all Australian laws

So the quality of evidence is sound - the audience you are giving it to are either too stupid or they are too stupid

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #94 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:44pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

So, to clarify here - it's okay to bring up things about Abbott from 20-30 years ago, which are unproven and lack any evidence, but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

And as I said, Gillard clearly lacks respect for mothers when she slept with (at least two, probably more) men who were married with children at the time.

but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

What evidence?

what crime?

how does the statment connect to Gillards beliefs, did she support that position?

Where is this evidence you talk about? I havn't seen it yet.

In terms of Mr Abbotts record of in relation to bullying and violence or near violence and intimidation the fact is he was taken to court on a sex charge and there were witnesses who said he threw punches towards a woman. I don't believe it credabble to suggest it didn't happen.

But on the other hand the young Liberals have an attrocious record on what they have said and done over the years and I doubt that Abbott was any different if people want to look at his statments as a uni student.

As Maqqa pointed out, she was the president of this association when their policy was such, did you even read Maqqa's OP?

And knowingly or unknowingly, she did set up a slush fund that her then boyfriend (who was married with two children at the time) used to take the funds of hardworking union members.

As for Abbott, you may (or may not, because it doesn't suit your vendetta) note that he was not charged or convicted of anything, and three witnesses who have not signed a stat dec since the alleged incident happened almost 30 years ago, is not sufficient evidence.

What appalling record do the Young Libs have? And if you want to tar us all with the same brush, then surely one could do the same with Labor, in accordance with the lovely records and characters of the likes of Obeid, Thomson, Orkopoulous, MacDonald, and others??

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Reply #95 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:46pm

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

So, to clarify here - it's okay to bring up things about Abbott from 20-30 years ago, which are unproven and lack any evidence, but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

And as I said, Gillard clearly lacks respect for mothers when she slept with (at least two, probably more) men who were married with children at the time.

but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

What evidence?

what crime?

how does the statment connect to Gillards beliefs, did she support that position?

Where is this evidence you talk about? I havn't seen it yet.

In terms of Mr Abbotts record of in relation to bullying and violence or near violence and intimidation the fact is he was taken to court on a sex charge and there were witnesses who said he threw punches towards a woman. I don't believe it credabble to suggest it didn't happen.

But on the other hand the young Liberals have an attrocious record on what they have said and done over the years and I doubt that Abbott was any different if people want to look at his statments as a uni student.

As Maqqa pointed out, she was the president of this association when their policy was such, did you even read Maqqa's OP?

And knowingly or unknowingly, she did set up a slush fund that her then boyfriend (who was married with two children at the time) used to take the funds of hardworking union members.

As for Abbott, you may (or may not, because it doesn't suit your vendetta) note that he was not charged or convicted of anything, and three witnesses who have not signed a stat dec since the alleged incident happened almost 30 years ago, is not sufficient evidence.

What appalling record do the Young Libs have? And if you want to tar us all with the same brush, then surely one could do the same with Labor, in accordance with the lovely records and characters of the likes of Obeid, Thomson, Orkopoulous, MacDonald, and others??

Don't forget the Labor MPs who were convicted of sexual offences

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #96 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:46pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

So, to clarify here - it's okay to bring up things about Abbott from 20-30 years ago, which are unproven and lack any evidence, but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

And as I said, Gillard clearly lacks respect for mothers when she slept with (at least two, probably more) men who were married with children at the time.

but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

What evidence?

what crime?

how does the statment connect to Gillards beliefs, did she support that position?

Where is this evidence you talk about? I havn't seen it yet.

In terms of Mr Abbotts record of in relation to bullying and violence or near violence and intimidation the fact is he was taken to court on a sex charge and there were witnesses who said he threw punches towards a woman. I don't believe it credabble to suggest it didn't happen.

But on the other hand the young Liberals have an attrocious record on what they have said and done over the years and I doubt that Abbott was any different if people want to look at his statments as a uni student.

You see matty

according to the left anything that Gillard does is forgivable

But if Abbott does anything even as much as sneeze - he should be tarred and feathered

They hold him to a much higher standard of scrutiny compared to Gillard not because of any moral standards within themselves but rather it suits a political purpose

So you can show dna evidence beyond reasonable doubt - but lefties will continue to doubt. Not because due to the quality of the evidence but rather the blind devotion the show to the left

Their inability to accept 1200 pages FWA report should show you their blindness

Their inability to accept that those coming on boats are called ILLEGALS despite references to the Migration Act

Their inability to accept that Mandatory Detention is acceptable under the UN Refugee Convention

Their inability to accept that the person applying for asylum has an obligation to accept and abide by all Australian laws

So the quality of evidence is sound - the audience you are giving it to are either too stupid or they are too stupid

Never a truer word spoken, Maqqa. Labor has nothing of substance, so resort to unfair sleaze and smear. Yet they have the temerity to accuse the Coalition of doing the same thing, as do their supporters.

Incidentally, has Labor apologised to the Coalition for all of that stuff that they said about offshore processing when the Coalition was in government?

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Re: Gillard says mothers are prostitutes
Reply #97 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:48pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:46pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:18pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:37pm:

So, to clarify here - it's okay to bring up things about Abbott from 20-30 years ago, which are unproven and lack any evidence, but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

And as I said, Gillard clearly lacks respect for mothers when she slept with (at least two, probably more) men who were married with children at the time.

but it's not okay to do the same with Gillard that ARE proven and DO have evidence to support?

What evidence?

what crime?

how does the statment connect to Gillards beliefs, did she support that position?

Where is this evidence you talk about? I havn't seen it yet.

In terms of Mr Abbotts record of in relation to bullying and violence or near violence and intimidation the fact is he was taken to court on a sex charge and there were witnesses who said he threw punches towards a woman. I don't believe it credabble to suggest it didn't happen.

But on the other hand the young Liberals have an attrocious record on what they have said and done over the years and I doubt that Abbott was any different if people want to look at his statments as a uni student.

As Maqqa pointed out, she was the president of this association when their policy was such, did you even read Maqqa's OP?

And knowingly or unknowingly, she did set up a slush fund that her then boyfriend (who was married with two children at the time) used to take the funds of hardworking union members.

As for Abbott, you may (or may not, because it doesn't suit your vendetta) note that he was not charged or convicted of anything, and three witnesses who have not signed a stat dec since the alleged incident happened almost 30 years ago, is not sufficient evidence.

What appalling record do the Young Libs have? And if you want to tar us all with the same brush, then surely one could do the same with Labor, in accordance with the lovely records and characters of the likes of Obeid, Thomson, Orkopoulous, MacDonald, and others??

Don't forget the Labor MPs who were convicted of sexual offences

I didn't, I mentioned Orkopoulos. Wink

Lovely bloke, he is. Molested two underage boys, and took them to functions in the guise as his nephews.

It makes you sick, and I hope that he's getting hell in gaol. Angry

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Reply #98 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:55pm

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:46pm:

Never a truer word spoken, Maqqa. Labor has nothing of substance, so resort to unfair sleaze and smear.

Incidentally, has Labor apologised to the Coalition for all of that stuff that they said about offshore processing when the Coalition was in government?

Got to admit that since 2007 - it was Team Rudd with Gillard, Swan and Tanner that have degraded the political scene.

It has gotten worse this year with Gillard and Swan still at the helm

Even under Rudd it was never quite this bad

I remember in 2006 and 2007 it was all about Workchoices, Kyoto and Apology

Even in 2009 it was still policy debate

But ever since 2010 - it's all personal attacks. This is because they have no comebacks for their incompetence

It's pretty much the same on this discussion board. Every time you bring up examples of incompetence they just comeback with personal insults

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Reply #99 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 2:12pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:40pm:

You see matty

according to the left anything that Gillard does is forgivable

But if Abbott does anything even as much as sneeze - he should be tarred and feathered

They hold him to a much higher standard of scrutiny compared to Gillard not because of any moral standards within themselves but rather it suits a political purpose

So you can show dna evidence beyond reasonable doubt - but lefties will continue to doubt. Not because due to the quality of the evidence but rather the blind devotion the show to the left

Their inability to accept 1200 pages FWA report should show you their blindness

Their inability to accept that those coming on boats are called ILLEGALS despite references to the Migration Act

Their inability to accept that Mandatory Detention is acceptable under the UN Refugee Convention

Their inability to accept that the person applying for asylum has an obligation to accept and abide by all Australian laws

So the quality of evidence is sound - the audience you are giving it to are either too stupid or they are too stupid

You see matty

according to the left anything that Gillard does is forgivable

In terms of this topic I am yet to see anything to support the dishonest title of the topic.

So you can show dna evidence beyond reasonable doubt - but lefties will continue to doubt.

OK try it just once? I have asked for evidence to support the claim in this title several times with no responce? Probably because there is none.

You not only show no evidence beyone reasonable doubt but no evidence at all?

But if Abbott does anything even as much as sneeze - he should be tarred and feathered

They hold him to a much higher standard of scrutiny compared to Gillard not because of any moral standards within themselves but rather it suits a political purpose

And you guys hold Abbott to no standard at all, worse than the exact opposite.

Their inability to accept 1200 pages FWA report should show you their blindness

There is no 1200 page report.

Their inability to accept that those coming on boats are called ILLEGALS despite references to the Migration Act

As long as you accept that it is not illegal to be illegal in that context.

Their inability to accept that the person applying for asylum has an obligation to accept and abide by all Australian laws

Who does not accept that? Thought you would just slip one in and hope nobody would notice.

So the quality of evidence is sound - the audience you are giving it to are either too stupid or they are too stupid

Again what evidence? I see none here? as usual.

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Reply #100 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:00pm

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:59am:

The Australian News Ltd is a crap publication and those who champion its smear campaign are just as pathetic.....How is this news FFS???

Roll Eyes

she is the PM. that is what makes it news. and since she started it with Abbotts past in uni then tough luck... it's called KARMA

It was David Marr (who is not in the ALP) who released the story and at least he had the courtesy to ask Abbott for a comment on the story before publication.....Your pathetic justification is a lie and typical of your lack of integrity!!!

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Reply #102 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:35pm

The Government is Genociding people who are intelligent, pacifists and wont compete...thats why I am meticulously documenting everything the do and say with regards to their ideological reform agenda...ie engineered chaos, reforms against working rights, threats against welfare rights ect...its all being noted....I hold the Government responsible for crimes against humanity and malicious ideological warfare against pacifism...Longweekend is a huge Bogan and I dont care what he says....

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Reply #103 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:43pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:00pm:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 12:02pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:59am:

The Australian News Ltd is a crap publication and those who champion its smear campaign are just as pathetic.....How is this news FFS???

Roll Eyes

she is the PM. that is what makes it news. and since she started it with Abbotts past in uni then tough luck... it's called KARMA

It was David Marr (who is not in the ALP) who released the story and at least he had the courtesy to ask Abbott for a comment on the story before publication.....Your pathetic justification is a lie and typical of your lack of integrity!!!

Angry

It was gillard and labor who tried to take full advantage of it.

Just like the AWU was started from within labor, then the news, then liberals decided to take full advatage from it (possibly because labor and gillard decided to take full advantage over a story of a 20 year old uni student with no real evidence apart from an ideologue activist from the left).

You are still at square one.

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Reply #104 - Dec 30^th, 2012 at 7:47pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 2:12pm:

You see matty

according to the left anything that Gillard does is forgivable

In terms of this topic I am yet to see anything to support the dishonest title of the topic.

In terms of this topic in 1983 when Gillard became president of this association it released the statements in my OP

So you can show dna evidence beyond reasonable doubt - but lefties will continue to doubt.

OK try it just once? I have asked for evidence to support the claim in this title several times with no responce? Probably because there is none.

See OP

You not only show no evidence beyone reasonable doubt but no evidence at all?

See OP

But if Abbott does anything even as much as sneeze - he should be tarred and feathered

They hold him to a much higher standard of scrutiny compared to Gillard not because of any moral standards within themselves but rather it suits a political purpose

And you guys hold Abbott to no standard at all, worse than the exact opposite.

We hold him to the same standards that made the promise "There will be no carbon tax...". If he does the same thing as Gillard I will be the first to slam him. If he backstabbed a sitting PM then I would slam him. If he promised a Budget surplus no ifs no buts - I would slam him. You seem to place the same important on him ALLEGEDLY slamming a wall next to someone with the same importance as the carbon tax lie

Their inability to accept 1200 pages FWA report should show you their blindness

There is no 1200 page report.

You are really stupid DNA if you don't know this is further reference to your inability to accept facts when presented

Their inability to accept that those coming on boats are called ILLEGALS despite references to the Migration Act

As long as you accept that it is not illegal to be illegal in that context.

It is illegal and the asylum status just delay the penalties being implemented

Their inability to accept that the person applying for asylum has an obligation to accept and abide by all Australian laws

Who does not accept that? Thought you would just slip one in and hope nobody would notice.

The Australian law says they should be processed offshore - deal with it.

So the quality of evidence is sound - the audience you are giving it to are either too stupid or they are too stupid

Again what evidence? I see none here? as usual.

You are really stupid aren't you. The evidence are the Migration Act and UN Convention

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