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Re: Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased?
Reply #45 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 11:20am

Merlin wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

hawil wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 5:05pm:

matty wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames.

2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy.

Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance?

In my humble view,the insiders and Q&A panels may appear lefties, but in truth are pretty conservative; I sent numerous questions on financial matters; neither would air them, because the boss of the ABC is probably paid $500,000 plus and is trying to protect the priviledged status of the highly paid public servants.

The above= SOMEONE LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD (or a labor/green voter)

I can't make any sense of your comment.
I don't like any of the politicians, but the only choice I have is to vote informal.

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Re: Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased?
Reply #46 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 11:47am

hawil wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 11:20am:

Merlin wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

hawil wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 5:05pm:

matty wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 6:03pm:

1. Anyone who expressed conservative views on Q & A, ie, anti-homosexual marriage, ant-abortion, offshore processing, is booed and torn down in flames.

2. The Insiders regularly has 2 left-wing journalists, and 1 conservative, along with big lefty host Barrie Cassidy.

Being that the taxpayer pays for these shows, aren't we entitled to a bit of balance?

In my humble view,the insiders and Q&A panels may appear lefties, but in truth are pretty conservative; I sent numerous questions on financial matters; neither would air them, because the boss of the ABC is probably paid $500,000 plus and is trying to protect the priviledged status of the highly paid public servants.

The above= SOMEONE LIVING IN A FANTASY WORLD (or a labor/green voter)

I can't make any sense of your comment.
I don't like any of the politicians, but the only choice I have is to vote informal.

I agree, with your thoughts on not liking any of the Pollies, BUT instead of voting informal, YOU could vote against the incumbent, whether that be Labor or Liberal AND IF that unseated enough incumbents at the next election, it MAY make the new incumbents a little more uneasy and PERHAPS they may pay a little more attention, TO OUR BEST LONG TERM INTERESTS, thinking then that it may co-incide more with their short term interests?

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Re: Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased?
Reply #47 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 11:54am

Peter Freedman wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:45pm:

People like Matty and Swagman constantly mouth the cliche that the ABC is politically biased. I have yet to see any of them produce one piece of concrete evidence, I doubt they ever will.

The figures at the start of Q and A will only be inaccurate if people lie about their political persuasions.

It doesn't matter whether a news outlet is state-owned or private, we are entitled to expect fair and balanced news coverage. Tha ABC gets closer to producing that than any other news source in the land.

People find "bias", because other people espouse views, which may disagree with their own pre-disposed views on "anything", irrespective of whether the views of those other people may be factually correct or not!

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Reply #48 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 1:48pm

Big Dave wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

One thing I've learnt about the television and the media is that it isn't reality. One of the things that they are trying to do is make it reality. The left in the media (which is most of them) talk as though gay marriage and loving refugees is what most people believe. IT'S NOT!! The lefties can't deal with reality and they hate it. Anybody who gets on one of their little BS shows and offers up some reality is shouted down. I don't know why people bother. The polling booth is where reality really gets shown.

Most Labor voters don't want gay marriage! That's why Julia Gillard knows she is on a winner!!

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Reply #49 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 1:49pm

Big Dave wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:49am:

One thing I've learnt about the television and the media is that it isn't reality. One of the things that they are trying to do is make it reality. The left in the media (which is most of them) talk as though gay marriage and loving refugees is what most people believe. IT'S NOT!! The lefties can't deal with reality and they hate it. Anybody who gets on one of their little BS shows and offers up some reality is shouted down. I don't know why people bother.

The polling booth is where reality really gets shown

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Lol---> the polling booth is 'where groupthink' gets shown!!!

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Re: Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased?
Reply #50 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 1:54pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 11:59am:

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:12am:

The Q & A panel seems to often, though not always, be balanced, but the audience isn't. I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true.

So now you are back peddling.

The problem is that most of the far right philosophies such as yours matty don't stand up to any sort of scrutiny. Thats why you will only hear them on anonymous internet forums like this one.

Propaganda- in this case the propaganda of the never ending value of THE INVESTMENT TAP as told by all liberal voting silver spooners- can't stand up to scrutiny. Lucky it follows the rules of a connectionless protocol and doesn't require feedback!

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Reply #51 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:11pm

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 2:31pm:

matty wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 10:12am:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 28^th, 2012 at 7:20pm:

Looks very much like on Q&A the facts do not support the claim?

Panellists:
Penny Wong, Finance Minister; Labor
Barnaby Joyce, Queensland Nationals Senator; LibJonathan Biggins, Playwright and Satirist;
Stella Young, Comedienne and disability activist;
Janet Albrechtsen, Columnist for The Australian More Conservative

Judith Sloan, Economist and businesswoman;
Kevin Rudd, Former Prime Minister;
Malcolm Turnbull, Shadow Communications Minister;
Heather Ridout, Reserve Bank of Australia board member.

Colin Barnett, WA Premier;
Bob Brown, Former Leader of the Greens;
Alannah MacTiernan, Former Labor Minister;
Hannah McGlade, Indigenous human rights lawyer
Bob Cronin, Editor in Chief, The West Australian.

The Q & A panel seems to often, though not always, be balanced, but the audience isn't. I don't care what the numbers at the start say, they're not true.

I went once, and was harassed outside, after the show, by a leftie.

Also, sometimes lefty panelists are downright rude to conservative ones, and Tony Jones does nothing to stop it.

Nothing more needs to be said about the Insiders. Watch 10 minutes of it and you'll see how biased it is. The way that the two lefty journalists treated the conservative in this year's last episode was appalling. No wonder that many Coalition MPs are reluctant to go on there.

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but the audience isn't......I went once

They let you in, showing their bias a bit there?

We have got to the point now where the audience who go to watch the show are biased?

Maybe with the opposition being against everything it is difficult to find support for that position when the topic is discussed.

You should start a Balmy Army group and take up a section of the audience.

My point is that the figures that they put up at the start of the show seem very wrong.

and you base that on what exactly? ..ohh, I know ... you went there once .... I'm sure you polled everyone on their voting preferences before you entered.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10266 Gender:	Re: Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased? Reply #52 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:17pm QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start. Its funding should be pulled.
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Reply #53 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:27pm

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http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/abc-presenter-leigh-sales-cleare...

ABC presenter Leigh Sales cleared of bias in Tony Abbott interview

THE ABC has been cleared of accusations of bias over one of television presenter Leigh Sales' interviews with Opposition Leader Tony Abbott.

In a decision published today, the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) found the broadcaster did not breach its own impartiality code during the 7.30 program on August 22.

Leigh Sales' questions led the opposition leader to the embarrassing admission he hadn't read statements by BHP Billiton on why it suspended its Olympic Dam project, after he had blamed the carbon tax for the stoppage.

The interview caused a stir on Twitter and Mr Abbott was forced to defend himself in parliament the following day.

ACMA received two letters complaining of bias by Ms Sales.

One said her treatment of Mr Abbott was "very bad'' and "she made it very obvious that she does not like him and is a Gillard supporter''.

The other said Ms Sales' "left-wing views'' showed through in her interviews.

In a response to the ACMA, the ABC said Ms Sales had used a "devil's advocate'' style of interviewing.

"We do not believe that posing testing questions to an interviewee and then allowing them to respond to those questions is biased or bad mannered,'' the ABC wrote.

"It is in fact a recognised standard of objective journalism.''

In its decision, the ACMA said Ms Sales used a "robust'' questioning style but Mr Abbott had been given a fair chance to respond.

The presenter "demonstrated an element of scepticism'' but the questions were reasonable given Mr Abbott's own statements, the authority said.

"The ACMA does not consider that the presenter conveyed a pre-judgment about Mr Abbott ... rather, she presented to Mr Abbott material suggesting what appeared to be differences between current events and his public statements and asked him to respond, thereby permitting viewers to evaluate the issues raised.''

Abbott's only problem was he could not run away like he normally does when he has no idea.....The only bias is from those who claim Tony Abbott is not a flake!!!

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26508 Australia	Re: Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased? Reply #54 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:32pm You didnt read the thread did you. Its not as biased and you are making out and its not biased to the left. SOB
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Re: Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased?
Reply #55 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:32pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:17pm:

QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start.

Its funding should be pulled.

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Re: Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased?
Reply #56 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:56pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:17pm:

QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start.

Its funding should be pulled.

feel free to go and watch live ... you too can boo and hiss at anything you don't like ...

the fact that people that are passionate about the issues you have raised voice that passion does not make the ABC or Q & A biased.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74530 Gender:	Re: Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased? Reply #57 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:58pm I haven't missed many episodes of Q & A and as far as I can remember not one episode had more ALP voters than libs. ...in fact, more often than not, the liberal voters outnumbered the labor voters
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Reply #58 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:07pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:56pm:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:17pm:

QandA is very biased. Almost every episode has a segment on boat people, gay marriage, and climate change; which are all cheered on by the biased audience. If anyone has a differing view from the leftist orthodoxy, then the boos and hisses start.

Its funding should be pulled.

feel free to go and watch live ... you too can boo and hiss at anything you don't like ...

the fact that people that are passionate about the issues you have raised voice that passion does not make the ABC or Q & A biased.

When they have regular segments as well on topics like drive by shootings in South-Western Sydney, immigration quotas, and practical ideas on lowering unemployment (instead of whining about big business), then I might consider it unbiased.

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Postmodern Trendoid III Gold Member Offline Posts: 10266 Gender:	Re: Why are Q & A and the Insiders so biased? Reply #59 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:17pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 2:32pm: You didnt read the thread did you. Its not as biased and you are making out and its not biased to the left. SOB You just got offended and had to lash out.
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