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Reply #15 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:08am

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:47am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:32am:

Imcrook, the Greens would see us all pay more tax and have a higher cost of living.

They are fringe dwelling nut bags.

Howard was the highest taxing PM in this countries history and in fact we have have massive tax cuts and much lower interest rates since his demise so its a fallacy to say a Liberal govt will always be a lower taxing govt.
The average family is better off by many thousands of dollars a year since the Labor tax cuts and lower interest rates.
As for the Greens they are calling for lower taxes for the average Aussie and less tax dodging for the mega wealthy..whats wrong with that?

quite simply because they arent. they want higher taxes for everybody. higher company taxes (which mean higher prices). tyhey already got their carbon tax. the greens want capital gains tax doubled, death taxes etc etec

the greens are the HIGH TAX party.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Australian Greens Push For A Millionaires Tax. Reply #16 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:08am Nope. I meant the middle. Australia's taxes for the middle are too high. I pay over $9k less than I wold had I stayed in Melbourne. It's ludicrous for the fringe dwelling Greens to want to increase it.
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Reply #17 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:29am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

Nope. I meant the middle.

Australia's taxes for the middle are too high.
I pay over $9k less than I wold had I stayed in Melbourne.

It's ludicrous for the fringe dwelling Greens to want to increase it.

You have stated that you paid bugger all taxes while you were working in Australia.

So are you saying now that you are ripping off the America tax system as well

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Australian Greens Push For A Millionaires Tax. Reply #18 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:30am Someone that is on $150,000 or more, is not in the middle mate. That is someone that is classed as high income.
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Reply #19 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:45am

i dont think the rich mind paying more tax if it is spent wisely.

i'm happy to spend money on my kids to give them a hand up as they show drive and initiative.
if they lay in bed smoking dope, they'd be out on their arses
if they had a wealth tax which was targeted at say paying for kids to do university research (not in arts degrees) or to help young entrepreneurs access interst free loans to start new businesses in asia etc, i would gladly donate.
america has a good system of such philanthropy with a lot of university chairs being sponsored by the rich.

but if my money is going to be spent on
im whinging on it
or free smokes for sri lankan illegals
or compensating james ashby
etc etc,

then i'll keep it thank you very much Cheesy

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Reply #20 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:52am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:45am:

i dont think the rich mind paying more tax if it is spent wisely.

i'm happy to spend money on my kids to give them a hand up as they show drive and initiative.
if they lay in bed smoking dope, they'd be out on their arses
if they had a wealth tax which was targeted at say paying for kids to do university research (not in arts degrees) or to help young entrepreneurs access interst free loans to start new businesses in asia etc, i would gladly donate.
america has a good system of such philanthropy with a lot of university chairs being sponsored by the rich.

but if my money is going to be spent on
im whinging on it
or free smokes for sri lankan illegals
or compensating james ashby
etc etc,

then i'll keep it thank you very much Cheesy

while I am not in that income class, if (and when) I am then I would - like you - like to see what is effectively a wealth tax spent on specific projects of national advantage eg education for specific hi-tech industries or for something like that. who woudl want to be taxed higher just so the govt can waste it on yet another ideologically motivated waste-of-money. or worse... on dolebludgers like IMFULLOFIT

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Australian Greens Push For A Millionaires Tax. Reply #21 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:54am Gold medal, you are a idiot. Get off my thread.
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Reply #22 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:57am

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:47am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:32am:

Imcrook, the Greens would see us all pay more tax and have a higher cost of living.

They are fringe dwelling nut bags.

Howard was the highest taxing PM in this countries history and in fact we have have massive tax cuts and much lower interest rates since his demise so its a fallacy to say a Liberal govt will always be a lower taxing govt.
The average family is better off by many thousands of dollars a year since the Labor tax cuts and lower interest rates.
As for the Greens they are calling for lower taxes for the average Aussie and less tax dodging for the mega wealthy..whats wrong with that?

quite simply because they arent. they want higher taxes for everybody. higher company taxes (which mean higher prices). tyhey already got their carbon tax. the greens want capital gains tax doubled, death taxes etc etec

the greens are the HIGH TAX party.

Are they calling for Howard era record taxes along with record household debt?
No matter how you look at it the average household is far better off debt and tax wise than it was under Howard and given that the Conservatives say the Labor Party and Greens are in a coalition govt the facts tell a different story to what you are claiming.
In fact under a Labor/ Greens coalition there has been over 30 billion dollars in tax cuts and average households with a mortgage are over $4,000 a yr better off than they were under Howard.

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Reply #23 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:00am

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Gold medal, you are a idiot. Get off my thread. Angry

crook you need a make over.
i will pay for a life coaching session for you.

the first thing is a name change.

maybe to

im going for it
i can do it
i can make it happen.

the record you play in your mind affects the outcomes on the ground.

seriously, the negative, defeatist attitude is very dangerous and it is infectious.
i would put it down as one of the main reasons for generational welfare dependancy.

even if you dont feel confident , you must ACT confident.

if you are taking your family on a walk in the bush and you get lost, you must still act confident.
your family depend on this.
it is a form of child abuse to present a negative image to kids.
it is very very harmful.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Australian Greens Push For A Millionaires Tax. Reply #24 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:01am Didn't the country go from surplus to debt within 18 months of Labor taking office though mate despite the wide scale robbing of the middle class? Hardly something to trumpet. I would be worse off net income after benefits than I was under Howard. And the country is still in debt.
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Reply #25 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:02am

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:57am:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:47am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:32am:

Imcrook, the Greens would see us all pay more tax and have a higher cost of living.

They are fringe dwelling nut bags.

Howard was the highest taxing PM in this countries history and in fact we have have massive tax cuts and much lower interest rates since his demise so its a fallacy to say a Liberal govt will always be a lower taxing govt.
The average family is better off by many thousands of dollars a year since the Labor tax cuts and lower interest rates.
As for the Greens they are calling for lower taxes for the average Aussie and less tax dodging for the mega wealthy..whats wrong with that?

quite simply because they arent. they want higher taxes for everybody. higher company taxes (which mean higher prices). tyhey already got their carbon tax. the greens want capital gains tax doubled, death taxes etc etec

the greens are the HIGH TAX party.

Are they calling for Howard era record taxes along with record household debt?
No matter how you look at it the average household is far better off debt and tax wise than it was under Howard and given that the Conservatives say the Labor Party and Greens are in a coalition govt the facts tell a different story to what you are claiming.
In fact under a Labor/ Greens coalition there has been over 30 billion dollars in tax cuts and average households with a mortgage are over $4,000 a yr better off than they were under Howard.

in general, your claims are misleading. Im detail they are actually lies.

you actually seems to be more numerically challenged than even lastnail. (you are ahead of SOB but so is my dog).

Only in your addled mind can we be better off with near zero growth, record deficit, record debt and growing unemployment.

and I recall that you were one of hte loons that opposed the 4 consecutive tax cuts by Howard.

hypocrite some?

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Reply #26 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:03am

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:57am:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:47am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:32am:

Imcrook, the Greens would see us all pay more tax and have a higher cost of living.

They are fringe dwelling nut bags.

Howard was the highest taxing PM in this countries history and in fact we have have massive tax cuts and much lower interest rates since his demise so its a fallacy to say a Liberal govt will always be a lower taxing govt.
The average family is better off by many thousands of dollars a year since the Labor tax cuts and lower interest rates.
As for the Greens they are calling for lower taxes for the average Aussie and less tax dodging for the mega wealthy..whats wrong with that?

quite simply because they arent. they want higher taxes for everybody. higher company taxes (which mean higher prices). tyhey already got their carbon tax. the greens want capital gains tax doubled, death taxes etc etec

the greens are the HIGH TAX party.

Are they calling for Howard era record taxes along with record household debt?
No matter how you look at it the average household is far better off debt and tax wise than it was under Howard and given that the Conservatives say the Labor Party and Greens are in a coalition govt the facts tell a different story to what you are claiming.
In fact under a Labor/ Greens coalition there has been over 30 billion dollars in tax cuts and average households with a mortgage are over $4,000 a yr better off than they were under Howard.

well adel, what difference if that household debt is now national debt of $350 billion. are not the hopuseholds of australia going to be responsible for paying off the interest and principal on this labor debt.
if the households dont have to pay off this debt, please say who will be paying for it.

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Re: Australian Greens Push For A Millionaires Tax.
Reply #27 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:08am

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:02am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:57am:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:47am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:32am:

Imcrook, the Greens would see us all pay more tax and have a higher cost of living.

They are fringe dwelling nut bags.

Howard was the highest taxing PM in this countries history and in fact we have have massive tax cuts and much lower interest rates since his demise so its a fallacy to say a Liberal govt will always be a lower taxing govt.
The average family is better off by many thousands of dollars a year since the Labor tax cuts and lower interest rates.
As for the Greens they are calling for lower taxes for the average Aussie and less tax dodging for the mega wealthy..whats wrong with that?

quite simply because they arent. they want higher taxes for everybody. higher company taxes (which mean higher prices). tyhey already got their carbon tax. the greens want capital gains tax doubled, death taxes etc etec

the greens are the HIGH TAX party.

Are they calling for Howard era record taxes along with record household debt?
No matter how you look at it the average household is far better off debt and tax wise than it was under Howard and given that the Conservatives say the Labor Party and Greens are in a coalition govt the facts tell a different story to what you are claiming.
In fact under a Labor/ Greens coalition there has been over 30 billion dollars in tax cuts and average households with a mortgage are over $4,000 a yr better off than they were under Howard.

in general, your claims are misleading. Im detail they are actually lies.

you actually seems to be more numerically challenged than even lastnail. (you are ahead of SOB but so is my dog).

Only in your addled mind can we be better off with near zero growth, record deficit, record debt and growing unemployment.

and I recall that you were one of hte loons that opposed the 4 consecutive tax cuts by Howard.

hypocrite some?

Now Longy as usual your just making it up as you go along..

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105460 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Australian Greens Push For A Millionaires Tax. Reply #28 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:09am Quote: Gold medal, you are a idiot. Get off my thread. Yes Crook, Longweekend said : Quote: dolebludgers like IMFULLOFIT He should apologise.
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Reply #29 - Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:20am

aquascoot wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 8:03am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:57am:

gold_medal wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 7:08am:

adelcrow wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:47am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 6:32am:

Imcrook, the Greens would see us all pay more tax and have a higher cost of living.

They are fringe dwelling nut bags.

Howard was the highest taxing PM in this countries history and in fact we have have massive tax cuts and much lower interest rates since his demise so its a fallacy to say a Liberal govt will always be a lower taxing govt.
The average family is better off by many thousands of dollars a year since the Labor tax cuts and lower interest rates.
As for the Greens they are calling for lower taxes for the average Aussie and less tax dodging for the mega wealthy..whats wrong with that?

quite simply because they arent. they want higher taxes for everybody. higher company taxes (which mean higher prices). tyhey already got their carbon tax. the greens want capital gains tax doubled, death taxes etc etec

the greens are the HIGH TAX party.

Are they calling for Howard era record taxes along with record household debt?
No matter how you look at it the average household is far better off debt and tax wise than it was under Howard and given that the Conservatives say the Labor Party and Greens are in a coalition govt the facts tell a different story to what you are claiming.
In fact under a Labor/ Greens coalition there has been over 30 billion dollars in tax cuts and average households with a mortgage are over $4,000 a yr better off than they were under Howard.

well adel, what difference if that household debt is now national debt of $350 billion. are not the hopuseholds of australia going to be responsible for paying off the interest and principal on this labor debt.
if the households dont have to pay off this debt, please say who will be paying for it.

If you would like record personal debt again and little or no money in your bank account just repeat Howards policies.
We have gone from being a nation in massive personal debt to being a nation with massive personal savings..that didnt happen under Howard.
Any govt can transfer their responsibilities to the masses while hitting them with record taxation.
Just dont complain when after a year under an Abbott govt that household debt and taxation skyrocket again which will push us into a recession it will take a whole generation to recover from.

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