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Reply #120 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:49pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:44pm:

Why exactly is it that you are incapable of making an arguement without resorting to lies?
We both know the answer to that, don't we.

Because lies are the only thing that AGW alarmists understand?

Undecided

Well, lies and propaganda designed to frighten them into submission.

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Reply #121 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:52pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:30pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:02pm:

it is a very good point. Perhaps you should think about that for a while and consider the answer. Let me give you a starting point. not everything you read and hear is true.

Yes it is. Now, how about an answer?

How exactly do you explain the fact that the 2 hottest years ever recorded (2005 and 2010) occurred in the past 16 years? (In fact - the 12 hottest years ever recorded all occurred in the past 16 years)

Yet you tell us that it hasnt warmed further for 16 years.

Please explain?

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:02pm:

PS the 'hottest ever' is crap.

I wrote that 2010 was the hottest year ever recorded. What is "crap" about that? Which other year (besides 2005) had a hotter recorded average global temperature?

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:02pm:

the MWP was 3-4 degrees warmer than now.

Really!?!?!? Globally?!?!? Please provide evidence of this. I think you are making things up again

And what does this have to do with my statement that 2010 was the hottest year ever recorded?
Are you trying to start a silly strawman arguement? Please don't.

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:02pm:

Of course that is too hard for climate scientists to swallow so they invent the story that the MWP didnt happen.
the MWP is the living proof of the lie of ACC. Im equally sure you dont believe it happened either.

Wow!! So many straw men!

Why can't you keep on topic? To embarrassed?

We are waiting for your explanation.

How is it you say there has been no warming for 16 years, when the hottest year ever recorded was 2010 - just 3 years ago?

Please explain.

refer the highlted section. This is areflection on your reasoning abilty. I said that the MWP was 3-4 degress HOTTER than tonay

Yes, you did say that. ANd that is complete bollocks. Another of your little lies.
If it were not - you would be able to provide evidence to support your statement. You cannot. You are making it up.

However - you only threw that in as a strawman. It has nothing to do with what was being discussed.

You were trying to run away from the nonsense you were writing about "no warming for 16 years". Funny claim to make when the hottest year ever recorded was 2010.

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

and then you ask how that affects your claim that 2010 was the hottest. are you dumb? are you that inadequate that you cant recognise the implicit logic in the argument? you dont have to agree but you cant call into question the logic without l;ooking liek a dolt. and you do.

All you need to do is tell us which year had a hotter recorded average global temperature than 2010 (and 2005).

How does your strawman about fictional MWP temperatures affect the simple fact that 2010 was the hottest average global temperature ever recorded?

Please explain.
gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

yes the MWP was warmer than now. get over it. the vikings did

Actually, there is very little evidence to suggest that the MWP was warmer globally than today.

But that is irrelevant. Stop trying to run away from the question.

How can you claim that there has been no warming for 16 years when the hottest year ever recorded occurred in 2010?

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #122 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:44pm:

Why exactly is it that you are incapable of making an arguement without resorting to lies?
We both know the answer to that, don't we.

Because lies are the only thing that AGW alarmists understand?

Undecided

Well, lies and propaganda designed to frighten them into submission.

So...this explains why Gold Medal told lies about glacial mass balance?!?!

Back in your box Greggery.
You have nothing to contribute here.

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gold_medal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3897 Gender:	Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists Reply #123 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:59pm http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204301404577171531838421366.html read it and learn. and signed by ACTUAL CLIMATE SCIENTISTS
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #124 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 1:57pm:

Some buggers still want proof the earth is not flat too. buggers that refuse the science of global warming are a danger to our children's future.

More alarmist scaremongering.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8ykwGElbbUk/UGyNCpoPbrI/AAAAAAAAQRk/0Zh7rNmsCmI/s1600/...

Cracks me up.

That's about the most substantial argument I can remember you bringing to the table.

Sad, isn't it.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists Reply #125 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:01pm gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:59pm: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204301404577171531838421366.html read it and learn. and signed by ACTUAL CLIMATE SCIENTISTS How about you link us to their peer reviewed papers.
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #126 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:01pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:44pm:

Why exactly is it that you are incapable of making an arguement without resorting to lies?
We both know the answer to that, don't we.

Because lies are the only thing that AGW alarmists understand?

Undecided

Well, lies and propaganda designed to frighten them into submission.

So...this explains why Gold Medal told lies about glacial mass balance?!?!

Back in your box Greggery.
You have nothing to contribute here.

He's dealing with someone who relies on colourful little graphs, shonky "science", and outright lies as a basis for an "argument".

One can hardly blame him for lowering himself to your level.

I'm sure if you were ever to come up with some credible, reliable evidence he may respond with something similar.

Until then, he's just pandering to the generally low intellect of the AGW alarmists (and doing a fine job).

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #127 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:03pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:37pm:

skippy. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 1:57pm:

Some buggers still want proof the earth is not flat too. buggers that refuse the science of global warming are a danger to our children's future.

More alarmist scaremongering.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8ykwGElbbUk/UGyNCpoPbrI/AAAAAAAAQRk/0Zh7rNmsCmI/s1600/...

Cracks me up.

That's about the most substantial argument I can remember you bringing to the table.

Sad, isn't it.

Yes, it's very sad when dementia takes away one's memory.

Very sad indeed. Maybe it's all this heat.

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #128 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:10pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:59pm:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204301404577171531838421366.html

read it and learn. and signed by ACTUAL CLIMATE SCIENTISTS

How about you link us to their peer reviewed papers.

why don't i link you to Einsteins???

oops cant. he was NEVER peer-reviewed. I can however link you to hundreds of peer-reviewed papers that were ultimately retracted after being shown to be complete crap.

but back to your point... they are all published scientists and you should recognise some of the names. google it yourself.

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #129 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:11pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:59pm:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204301404577171531838421366.html

read it and learn. and signed by ACTUAL CLIMATE SCIENTISTS

How about you link us to their peer reviewed papers.

How about you just read the articl instead?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 104695 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists Reply #130 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:12pm In August this year - when the North Pole is free of ice - Longweekend will be forced to recant his climate change denials.
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #131 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:44pm:

Why exactly is it that you are incapable of making an arguement without resorting to lies?
We both know the answer to that, don't we.

Because lies are the only thing that AGW alarmists understand?

Undecided

Well, lies and propaganda designed to frighten them into submission.

So...this explains why Gold Medal told lies about glacial mass balance?!?!

Back in your box Greggery.
You have nothing to contribute here.

He's dealing with someone who relies on colourful little graphs, shonky "science", and outright lies as a basis for an "argument".

One can hardly blame him for lowering himself to your level.

I'm sure if you were ever to come up with some credible, reliable evidence he may respond with something similar.

Until then, he's just pandering to the generally low intellect of the AGW alarmists (and doing a fine job).

What outright lie have I told Greggery.

I have highlighted the outright lie Gold Medal told. He lied with his implication that glacial mass balance was not decreasing globally.

Could you please do me the courtesy of backing up your accusation with an example?

Thanks.

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #132 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:19pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:44pm:

Why exactly is it that you are incapable of making an arguement without resorting to lies?
We both know the answer to that, don't we.

Because lies are the only thing that AGW alarmists understand?

Undecided

Well, lies and propaganda designed to frighten them into submission.

So...this explains why Gold Medal told lies about glacial mass balance?!?!

Back in your box Greggery.
You have nothing to contribute here.

He's dealing with someone who relies on colourful little graphs, shonky "science", and outright lies as a basis for an "argument".

One can hardly blame him for lowering himself to your level.

I'm sure if you were ever to come up with some credible, reliable evidence he may respond with something similar.

Until then, he's just pandering to the generally low intellect of the AGW alarmists (and doing a fine job).

What outright lie have I told Greggery.

I have highlighted the outright lie Gold Medal told. He lied with his implication that glacial mass balance was not decreasing globally.

Could you please do me the courtesy of backing up your accusation with an example?

Thanks.

so you have moved on from denying the 16year temprature pause now? ABOUT TIME!

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #133 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:20pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:11pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:59pm:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204301404577171531838421366.html

read it and learn. and signed by ACTUAL CLIMATE SCIENTISTS

How about you link us to their peer reviewed papers.

How about you just read the articl instead?

How about you explain to us why you are incapable of making an arguement without resorting to telling lies?

Why did you lie about the decrease of glacial mass balance?

And we are still waiting for you to explain why you think the earth has not warmed for 16 years - when the hottest year ever recorded was only 3 years ago.

And why did you claim that the MWP was 3-4 degrees warmer globally than today? Not that that statement is relevant to the discussion in any way - but I am curious...Any evidence to support that? Or just another lie?

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #134 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:22pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:19pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 5:44pm:

Why exactly is it that you are incapable of making an arguement without resorting to lies?
We both know the answer to that, don't we.

Because lies are the only thing that AGW alarmists understand?

Undecided

Well, lies and propaganda designed to frighten them into submission.

So...this explains why Gold Medal told lies about glacial mass balance?!?!

Back in your box Greggery.
You have nothing to contribute here.

He's dealing with someone who relies on colourful little graphs, shonky "science", and outright lies as a basis for an "argument".

One can hardly blame him for lowering himself to your level.

I'm sure if you were ever to come up with some credible, reliable evidence he may respond with something similar.

Until then, he's just pandering to the generally low intellect of the AGW alarmists (and doing a fine job).

What outright lie have I told Greggery.

I have highlighted the outright lie Gold Medal told. He lied with his implication that glacial mass balance was not decreasing globally.

Could you please do me the courtesy of backing up your accusation with an example?

Thanks.

so you have moved on from denying the 16year temprature pause now? ABOUT TIME!

No - we are still waiting for you to explain it for us without trying to run away and hide behind strawmen.

Why do you claim the earth has not warmed for 16 years when the 12 hottest years ever recorded occurred in that 16 years?

How does that work?

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