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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #180 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:21pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:10pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:23pm:
Maqqa wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:19pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 12:35pm:
The world has gotten colder on the East Coast of China:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-06/ships-trapped-in-ice-after-china-cold-snap...


Quote:
Temperatures in China have plunged to their lowest in almost three decades,
cold enough to freeze coastal waters and trap 1,000 ships in ice, official media said at the weekend.

Since late November the country has shivered at an average of minus 3.8 degrees Celsius - 1.3 degrees colder than the previous average, and the chilliest in 28 years, state news agency Xinhua said on Saturday, citing the China Meteorological Administration.

Bitter cold has even frozen the sea in Laizhou Bay on the coast of Shandong province in the east, stranding nearly 1,000 ships, the China Daily newspaper reported.



STOP IT bobby

according to the leftards

the water is freezing because the world is heating up

they are now saying that you no longer need a freezer to make ice

just heat water up and it should freeze



According to the AGW alarmists, not lefties.

I'm a (far) lefty and I think these AGW alarmists are borderline retards.  Please don't associate me with them   Wink


a reasonable request. I think the problem is that ACC does seem to be a mostly left-wing ideology.

No - Greggery is 100% correct.  It is not a political issue.

It is just that conservative voters tend to be less educated and more prone to ignorance.  Greggey is of course an exception to this generalisation.
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #181 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:24pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:16pm:
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you loons really shoudl get your lies stories straight before telling them.
First you say the MWP didnt occur at all
and then when forced to admit it dd happen you say it was less than today even though Greenlands north was free of ice then. And best of all it was 'regional' meaning it only occured where there was recorded history to confirm it. Because that's likely right? it only occured in places where it cant be denied??

todays warming is global yet yesterdays warming was regional???  rather convenient, wouldnt you say?

Errr?!?!? Excuse me?!?!?!

Who are you calling a loon who cannot get his story straight?!?!?!?

When did I say the MWP did not occur at all??!?!

Please quote me
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #182 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:46pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:24pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:16pm:
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you loons really shoudl get your lies stories straight before telling them.
First you say the MWP didnt occur at all
and then when forced to admit it dd happen you say it was less than today even though Greenlands north was free of ice then. And best of all it was 'regional' meaning it only occured where there was recorded history to confirm it. Because that's likely right? it only occured in places where it cant be denied??

todays warming is global yet yesterdays warming was regional???  rather convenient, wouldnt you say?

Errr?!?!? Excuse me?!?!?!

Who are you calling a loon who cannot get his story straight?!?!?!?

When did I say the MWP did not occur at all??!?!

Please quote me

You are not in the leadership of the cult. The leaders were refered, not you. You are just a useful idiot to the cult, nothing more.
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #183 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:49pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Do I have to spell it out for the 100th time?

I suppose so:

The fresh water melting from Greenland can cause the Gulf stream to stop.
This is caused by global warming.

If the Gulf stream stops Europe will be plunged into a mini-ice age.

Do you understand now?

cheers
Bobby.



good grief... straight from a MOVIE PLOT!


You really do need to do a little reading, Longy!

This movie, may be based on REAL events!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation


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Reply #184 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:57pm
 
How's your reading going, Longy?

Have your comprehension skills improved, even just a little bit?

Actually, you and Maqqa are on similar levels, in terms of your comprehension of a number of issues, BUT in particular Economics & Climate, your skill levels are stunning, you both bat about zero!


perceptions_now wrote on Jan 5th, 2013 at 8:13pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 5th, 2013 at 6:39pm:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/04/the-dr-david-viner-moment-weve-all-been-waiting-for-a-new-snow-record/


another goody. hysterics predict that snow will be a thig of the past and voila...

A NEW SNOW RECORD.

it is of course global warming right?
everything is nowadays


It would really help, IF you caught up on the 1st of the 3 R's - Reading!!!

1) It is Climate Change, NOT Global Warming!
And, there are reasons for the "Climate Change" name.

2) Climate scientists are NOT simply saying that everywhere & all times, will be warmer.
In fact, IF you did some reading, you would discover that some areas will have more rain events, some will have more snow events, some will have more heat, BUT across the entire planet, IT WILL BE WARMER, but that heat will have other effects, in addition to just heat.



Extreme Wet
A warmer climate spurs the evaporation of water from land and sea and allows the atmosphere to hold more moisture—thus setting the stage for more extreme precipitation.

Extreme precipitation is likely when a storm passes through a warmer atmosphere holding more water. In warmer months, it takes the form of torrential rainstorms; in winter, blizzards are more likely.

Whether precipitation falls as rain or snow, these extremes can heighten the risk of flood, and cause economic and social disruptions for communities unprepared to cope.

Wet places tend to get wetter. Atmospheric circulation over oceans, plains, and mountains helps determine where rainforests thrive and semi-arid regions develop. However, wet places tend to get wetter and dry places dryer in a warming world—as is already occurring today. Places now wetter than the historical average include Northern Europe, eastern North and South America, and northern and central Asia.

Yet even as rainfall occurs in heavier events, the periods between these extremes are likely to become longer, warmer, and drier. Scientists expect these trends to intensify if our carbon emissions continue unabated.

Link -
http://www.climatehotmap.org/global-warming-effects/rain-and-snow.html
===============================
Enjoy your reading, Longy?
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #185 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:05pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:24pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:16pm:
[

you loons really shoudl get your lies stories straight before telling them.
First you say the MWP didnt occur at all
and then when forced to admit it dd happen you say it was less than today even though Greenlands north was free of ice then. And best of all it was 'regional' meaning it only occured where there was recorded history to confirm it. Because that's likely right? it only occured in places where it cant be denied??

todays warming is global yet yesterdays warming was regional???  rather convenient, wouldnt you say?

Errr?!?!? Excuse me?!?!?!

Who are you calling a loon who cannot get his story straight?!?!?!?

When did I say the MWP did not occur at all??!?!

Please quote me


it is part of the ACC scriptures. Don't you recall the first hockey stick which didn't have one and after the outrage the second one mysteriously had a MWP about .1 degrees higher than the average. And then there were the CRU emails discussing how to get rid of the MWP.

surely you know the history of your religion?
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #186 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:06pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:49pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Do I have to spell it out for the 100th time?

I suppose so:

The fresh water melting from Greenland can cause the Gulf stream to stop.
This is caused by global warming.

If the Gulf stream stops Europe will be plunged into a mini-ice age.

Do you understand now?

cheers
Bobby.



good grief... straight from a MOVIE PLOT!


You really do need to do a little reading, Longy!

This movie, may be based on REAL events!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation




I call it a movie plot and you quote wikipedia as a rebuttal????

prozac_now... you are entertaining but still dumb as a turnip.
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #187 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:39pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:06pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:49pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Do I have to spell it out for the 100th time?

I suppose so:

The fresh water melting from Greenland can cause the Gulf stream to stop.
This is caused by global warming.

If the Gulf stream stops Europe will be plunged into a mini-ice age.

Do you understand now?

cheers
Bobby.



good grief... straight from a MOVIE PLOT!


You really do need to do a little reading, Longy!

This movie, may be based on REAL events!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation




I call it a movie plot and you quote wikipedia as a rebuttal????

prozac_now... you are entertaining but still dumb as a turnip.


As usual Longy, you only elect to see, what you want to see!

The information in the Wikipedia article is perfectly fine, BUT similar info is readily available from many other sources, NOT that you would listen to anything, which disagreed with your preset notions of how things should be! 


That said, at least you can rely on the likeable way you treat other members, as your redeemer of 1st & only choice???
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #188 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:49pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:39pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:06pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:49pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Do I have to spell it out for the 100th time?

I suppose so:

The fresh water melting from Greenland can cause the Gulf stream to stop.
This is caused by global warming.

If the Gulf stream stops Europe will be plunged into a mini-ice age.

Do you understand now?

cheers
Bobby.



good grief... straight from a MOVIE PLOT!


You really do need to do a little reading, Longy!

This movie, may be based on REAL events!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation




I call it a movie plot and you quote wikipedia as a rebuttal????

prozac_now... you are entertaining but still dumb as a turnip.


As usual Longy, you only elect to see, what you want to see!

The information in the Wikipedia article is perfectly fine, BUT similar info is readily available from many other sources, NOT that you would listen to anything, which disagreed with your preset notions of how things should be! 


That said, at least you can rely on the likeable way you treat other members, as your redeemer of 1st & only choice???


quoting wikipedia in university is an automatic fail. Ever wonder why? is it because it is edited by ANYONE? because perhaps even turnips like you can post a definition of something despite being a moron?

quote a credible source and you might get some discussion, but wikipedia is a joke.
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #189 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:52pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:05pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:24pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:16pm:
[

you loons really shoudl get your lies stories straight before telling them.
First you say the MWP didnt occur at all
and then when forced to admit it dd happen you say it was less than today even though Greenlands north was free of ice then. And best of all it was 'regional' meaning it only occured where there was recorded history to confirm it. Because that's likely right? it only occured in places where it cant be denied??

todays warming is global yet yesterdays warming was regional???  rather convenient, wouldnt you say?

Errr?!?!? Excuse me?!?!?!

Who are you calling a loon who cannot get his story straight?!?!?!?

When did I say the MWP did not occur at all??!?!

Please quote me


it is part of the ACC scriptures. Don't you recall the first hockey stick which didn't have one and after the outrage the second one mysteriously had a MWP about .1 degrees higher than the average. And then there were the CRU emails discussing how to get rid of the MWP.

surely you know the history of your religion?

No - I have never said the MWP did not occur at all
You told a lie.

And I have never heard of anyone else denying that there is evidence of regional warming during parts of the medieval period.

Why do you make stuff like this up?

I hope you are more careful when you write your "book"

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!
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Reply #190 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:55pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:49pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:39pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:06pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:49pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Do I have to spell it out for the 100th time?

I suppose so:

The fresh water melting from Greenland can cause the Gulf stream to stop.
This is caused by global warming.

If the Gulf stream stops Europe will be plunged into a mini-ice age.

Do you understand now?

cheers
Bobby.



good grief... straight from a MOVIE PLOT!


You really do need to do a little reading, Longy!

This movie, may be based on REAL events!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation




I call it a movie plot and you quote wikipedia as a rebuttal????

prozac_now... you are entertaining but still dumb as a turnip.


As usual Longy, you only elect to see, what you want to see!

The information in the Wikipedia article is perfectly fine, BUT similar info is readily available from many other sources, NOT that you would listen to anything, which disagreed with your preset notions of how things should be! 


That said, at least you can rely on the likeable way you treat other members, as your redeemer of 1st & only choice???


quoting wikipedia in university is an automatic fail. Ever wonder why? is it because it is edited by ANYONE? because perhaps even turnips like you can post a definition of something despite being a moron?

quote a credible source and you might get some discussion, but wikipedia is a joke.

Telling lies  is an automatic fail too.

As is making stupid claims with no supporting evidence.

Why did you lie about receding glaciers?
Why did you lie about temperatures being 4 degrees warmer globally during the MWP?


Where is your supporting evidence for these ridiculous statements?
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Reply #191 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 7:45pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:55pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:49pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:39pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:06pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:49pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Do I have to spell it out for the 100th time?

I suppose so:

The fresh water melting from Greenland can cause the Gulf stream to stop.
This is caused by global warming.

If the Gulf stream stops Europe will be plunged into a mini-ice age.

Do you understand now?

cheers
Bobby.



good grief... straight from a MOVIE PLOT!


You really do need to do a little reading, Longy!

This movie, may be based on REAL events!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation




I call it a movie plot and you quote wikipedia as a rebuttal????

prozac_now... you are entertaining but still dumb as a turnip.


As usual Longy, you only elect to see, what you want to see!

The information in the Wikipedia article is perfectly fine, BUT similar info is readily available from many other sources, NOT that you would listen to anything, which disagreed with your preset notions of how things should be! 


That said, at least you can rely on the likeable way you treat other members, as your redeemer of 1st & only choice???


quoting wikipedia in university is an automatic fail. Ever wonder why? is it because it is edited by ANYONE? because perhaps even turnips like you can post a definition of something despite being a moron?

quote a credible source and you might get some discussion, but wikipedia is a joke.

Telling lies  is an automatic fail too.

As is making stupid claims with no supporting evidence.

Why did you lie about receding glaciers?
Why did you lie about temperatures being 4 degrees warmer globally during the MWP?


Where is your supporting evidence for these ridiculous statements?


the MWP WAS 3-4 degrees warmer. Evidence supports it. the chronciles of crops being grown in areas that are now too cold for starters. the greenland problem with it being ice free at the north - soemthing you refuse to even comment on.

but you do have you argument that it was regional - meaning it occured in places convenient to you. Did you know there is proof the MWP occured in tasmania?  yep. but not in australie new zealand or any of the other countries because it was 'regional'. it is the most pathetic and tranparent argument yet.
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Reply #192 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 7:52pm
 
Its quite simple..Longy does not believe that pumping pollution into the atmosphere in ever increasing amounts since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution is or will ever have any negative effects on the planet or its inhabitants and if its does..well tough titties. It wont be his problem because he'll be long gone by the time the worst of it hits.
Good one Longy ...but on the positive side the majority of the people on the globe and more importantly the majority of those that know better and are in positions of power are already doing the prudent thing and investing in alternatives.
Like Ive always said..the denialists lost the fight ages ago and now all we have are selfish short sighted losers whining because they have nothing better to do.
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Reply #193 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 7:54pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:49pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:39pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:06pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:49pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Do I have to spell it out for the 100th time?

I suppose so:

The fresh water melting from Greenland can cause the Gulf stream to stop.
This is caused by global warming.

If the Gulf stream stops Europe will be plunged into a mini-ice age.

Do you understand now?

cheers
Bobby.



good grief... straight from a MOVIE PLOT!


You really do need to do a little reading, Longy!

This movie, may be based on REAL events!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation




I call it a movie plot and you quote wikipedia as a rebuttal????

prozac_now... you are entertaining but still dumb as a turnip.


As usual Longy, you only elect to see, what you want to see!

The information in the Wikipedia article is perfectly fine, BUT similar info is readily available from many other sources, NOT that you would listen to anything, which disagreed with your preset notions of how things should be! 


That said, at least you can rely on the likeable way you treat other members, as your redeemer of 1st & only choice???


quoting wikipedia in university is an automatic fail. Ever wonder why? is it because it is edited by ANYONE? because perhaps even turnips like you can post a definition of something despite being a moron?

quote a credible source and you might get some discussion, but wikipedia is a joke.



Like I said, there are plenty of other sources of good, reliable information (as follows), BUT Wikipedia is generally as good a reference centre as anything else.

In any event, try NASA, DH (Alias G-M, aka Longy, aka Rip Van Winkle).

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/ 
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #194 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 7:57pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 7:54pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:49pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:39pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:06pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:49pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Do I have to spell it out for the 100th time?

I suppose so:

The fresh water melting from Greenland can cause the Gulf stream to stop.
This is caused by global warming.

If the Gulf stream stops Europe will be plunged into a mini-ice age.

Do you understand now?

cheers
Bobby.



good grief... straight from a MOVIE PLOT!


You really do need to do a little reading, Longy!

This movie, may be based on REAL events!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation




I call it a movie plot and you quote wikipedia as a rebuttal????

prozac_now... you are entertaining but still dumb as a turnip.


As usual Longy, you only elect to see, what you want to see!

The information in the Wikipedia article is perfectly fine, BUT similar info is readily available from many other sources, NOT that you would listen to anything, which disagreed with your preset notions of how things should be! 


That said, at least you can rely on the likeable way you treat other members, as your redeemer of 1st & only choice???


quoting wikipedia in university is an automatic fail. Ever wonder why? is it because it is edited by ANYONE? because perhaps even turnips like you can post a definition of something despite being a moron?

quote a credible source and you might get some discussion, but wikipedia is a joke.



Like I said, there are plenty of other sources of good, reliable information (as follows), BUT Wikipedia is generally as good a reference centre as anything else.

In any event, try NASA, DH (Alias G-M, aka Longy, aka Rip Van Winkle).

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/ 



Longweekend will not respond to evidence.
He is a faith based person both in his spiritual & scientific life.

Europe could well be plunged into a mini ice age - it's simple -
it only requires the Gulf stream to be stopped by global warming.

We must all give up on him.

He is forgiven.

namaste
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