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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #195 - Jan 6^th, 2013 at 8:05pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 7:57pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 7:54pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 6:39pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

Do I have to spell it out for the 100th time?

I suppose so:

The fresh water melting from Greenland can cause the Gulf stream to stop.
This is caused by global warming.

If the Gulf stream stops Europe will be plunged into a mini-ice age.

Do you understand now?

cheers
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good grief... straight from a MOVIE PLOT!

You really do need to do a little reading, Longy!

This movie, may be based on REAL events!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation

I call it a movie plot and you quote wikipedia as a rebuttal????

prozac_now... you are entertaining but still dumb as a turnip.

As usual Longy, you only elect to see, what you want to see!

The information in the Wikipedia article is perfectly fine, BUT similar info is readily available from many other sources, NOT that you would listen to anything, which disagreed with your preset notions of how things should be!

That said, at least you can rely on the likeable way you treat other members, as your redeemer of 1st & only choice???

quoting wikipedia in university is an automatic fail. Ever wonder why? is it because it is edited by ANYONE? because perhaps even turnips like you can post a definition of something despite being a moron?

quote a credible source and you might get some discussion, but wikipedia is a joke.

Like I said, there are plenty of other sources of good, reliable information (as follows), BUT Wikipedia is generally as good a reference centre as anything else.

In any event, try NASA, DH (Alias G-M, aka Longy, aka Rip Van Winkle).
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2004/05mar_arctic/

Longweekend will not respond to evidence.
He is a faith based person both in his spiritual & scientific life.

Europe could well be plunged into a mini ice age - it's simple -
it only requires the Gulf stream to be stopped by global warming.

We must all give up on him.

He is forgiven.

namaste

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #196 - Jan 7^th, 2013 at 12:38pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 7:45pm:

the MWP WAS 3-4 degrees warmer. Evidence supports it. the chronciles of crops being grown in areas that are now too cold for starters. the greenland problem with it being ice free at the north - soemthing you refuse to even comment on.

Show us this evidence then. You have been caught previously making things up. You are probably making this up too. Show us evidence that the MWP WAS 3-4 degrees warmer globally

And even if it was. Why is this at all relevant to the simple fact that anthropogenic greenhouse gasses are impacting upon climate today?

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #197 - Jan 7^th, 2013 at 1:20pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 12:38pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 7:45pm:

the MWP WAS 3-4 degrees warmer. Evidence supports it. the chronciles of crops being grown in areas that are now too cold for starters. the greenland problem with it being ice free at the north - soemthing you refuse to even comment on.

Show us this evidence then. You have been caught previously making things up. You are probably making this up too. Show us evidence that the MWP WAS 3-4 degrees warmer globally

And even if it was. Why is this at all relevant to the simple fact that anthropogenic greenhouse gasses are impacting upon climate today?

Perhaps, the reason he (Longy) is avoiding the issue, is because HE CAN'T PROOVE IT!

At least, the following chart would suggest he would have "some" difficulty!

The chart, which includes various studies, shows there was only just over 1 degree variation in Global temperatures, from the MWP period, to the bottoms of the cooler "Little Ice Age" period.

The temperatures then rose again, so that the MWP & temps earlier in the 20th century were roughly similar, BUT since then the temperatures have continued to rise.

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Reply #199 - Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:19pm

You like charts, pick a chart. The anthropogenic climate change cult is not going to like these charts. Not just because of what they represent, but because of the sheer volume of them.

MWP, you want to know, go take a look at the pretty graphs

http://www.c3headlines.com/temperature-charts-historical-proxies.html

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Reply #200 - Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:23pm

Another MWP just as juicy as the last post

Actually, the European researchers confirmed that the "unprecedented" modern global warming is not only less than the Medieval Period, it is less than most of the prior warming phases over the last 10,000 years - using multiple proxies, this study shreds the 'Hockey Stick' hypothesis of Penn State's 'winner of the Nobel Prize pretender'

http://www.c3headlines.com/2012/12/from-multiple-proxies-european-researchers-de...

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #201 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:10am

Maqqa wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:32pm:

... everybody agrees that the warming trend paused 16 years ago ...

Why the Mail on Sunday was wrong to claim global warming has stopped

Newspaper's claim that 'world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago' is simply wrong, says Met Office

Tuesday 16 October 2012

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/oct/16/daily-mail-global-warming-stop...

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #202 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:18am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:10am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:32pm:

... everybody agrees that the warming trend paused 16 years ago ...

Why the Mail on Sunday was wrong to claim global warming has stopped

Newspaper's claim that 'world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago' is simply wrong, says Met Office

Tuesday 16 October 2012

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/oct/16/daily-mail-global-warming-stop...

Thats because they cant add up. 0.5 degrees over some arbitrary number, take away 0.5 = 0

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #203 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:58am

While im on MWP, thought I would share this great page. Just for fun about similar information I am interested in (homoginised data vs raw data). check out what you need to do to not only sea level rise data, but I would suggest you do the same with the homoginised data that MOTR presents to you.

Before

After

Just tilt all temp graphs that MOTR presents by about 20 to 30 degrees and you will be closer to the truth.

Anyway, it a large read but worth it.

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'No global warming for 16 years'

http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/no-global-warming-for-16-years/

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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #204 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:56am

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:18am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:10am:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 29^th, 2012 at 1:32pm:

... everybody agrees that the warming trend paused 16 years ago ...

Why the Mail on Sunday was wrong to claim global warming has stopped

Newspaper's claim that 'world stopped getting warmer almost 16 years ago' is simply wrong, says Met Office

Tuesday 16 October 2012

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/oct/16/daily-mail-global-warming-stop...

Thats because they cant add up. 0.5 degrees over some arbitrary number, take away 0.5 = 0

Ah yes Buzz. The Guardian.

That really nice moderate middle of the road newspaper.

They are as anti-Mail Group newspapers are you are with your personal vendetta and Ted Baillieu.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists Reply #205 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:57am In regards to climate change and what needs to be done, my views are known. I am in China and using their wifi at the moment hence I will keep my opinion to myself.
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14192 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists Reply #206 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:30am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:57am: In regards to climate change and what needs to be done, my views are known. YES But you're a confessed, self indulgent, environmental vandal So YOUR "views" don't really matter
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Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists
Reply #207 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:45pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:30am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:57am:

In regards to climate change and what needs to be done, my views are known.

YES

But you're a confessed, self indulgent, environmental vandal

So YOUR "views" don't really matter

andrei loves rivers of blood in his spare time don't forget

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists Reply #208 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:46pm Is the crack den open already?
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Embarrassment for the climate alarmists Reply #209 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:54pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:46pm: Is the crack den open already? DONT CHA LOV E THESE MOVING PICTURES AND OPINIONS ANDREI.. IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM JOIN THEM I SAY. WITH ANY LUCK THEY WILL GET FED UP WITH THE IDEA.
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