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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #45 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:06pm

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 1:31pm:

54 seconds in Macca.....Kevin Rudd said he would ratify Kyoto and introduce an ETS....Next!!!

He also said that Howard was against it - and your article says that Howard went to the 2007 election with it

Rudd said alot of things - and broke alot of promises as well

So where is the policy document for the ETS

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #46 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:10pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 9:03pm:

I'm sorry but the carbon tax revenue raising was none more than wealth re-distribution in a sneaky form.

Tell me, why exactly would I receive nothing in compensation but see my bills rise as a result of the tax and yet others lower than me receive compensation to pay it - paid for out of my taxes?

Seem fair?

Then again, since when did the Labor party care about the middle income family though eh?

1 - no one pays a price on carbon, UNLESS they ar one of the top polluters in the country, so you're dull of sh it, nothing new there.
2- you pay nothing, you are not entitled to any compensation,you claim not to live here, unless you're full of sh it like everyone says and you're just a try hard numpty living in Melbourne.
3- there seems a common link here,you're full of sh it. Huh

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #47 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:14pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:55pm:

Vic wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

"the first piece of legislation to be debated in the Parliament will be the repeal of the Carbon Tax."

And when it reaches the senate and is absolutely and positively caned, I will call out Margie to help me, cause those mean senators are hurting poh hubby Grin

You lefties are not only stupid but you are also blind

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If Labor and the Greens combine to block the express will of the Australian people, a Coalition Government would seek dissolution of both Houses of Parliament.
We would then introduce the legislation to abolish the Carbon Tax at a subsequent Joint Sitting of the Parliament.

A DD election would take years, not months. The new senators elected at the next election don't come in until the middle of the next year for starters, fool
IF and it's a giant IF, phony tony sneaks in at the next election by the time he could call a DD he'd be much more disliked than is now. The punters would have had over a year to see what a dickhead he is. It would be the shortest government in the history of this country, bring it on.

Bump for the f wits that think the man that indecently assaults women will repeal a thing.

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #48 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:30pm

Hail Skippy for being the voice of reason in a usual dull Maqqa thread. Mind you, it is useful to see the genius in the Liberal tactics team played out for all to see.

There will be no DD election until Tones has done a full term. If he gets a majority in the senate - a very big if - he may quietly decide to repeal the carbon tax.

In 4 year's time it won't even make the news.

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #49 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:36pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:55pm:

Vic wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

"the first piece of legislation to be debated in the Parliament will be the repeal of the Carbon Tax."

And when it reaches the senate and is absolutely and positively caned, I will call out Margie to help me, cause those mean senators are hurting poh hubby Grin

You lefties are not only stupid but you are also blind

He said
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If Labor and the Greens combine to block the express will of the Australian people, a Coalition Government would seek dissolution of both Houses of Parliament.
We would then introduce the legislation to abolish the Carbon Tax at a subsequent Joint Sitting of the Parliament.

A DD election would take years, not months. The new senators elected at the next election don't come in until the middle of the next year for starters, fool
IF and it's a giant IF, phony tony sneaks in at the next election by the time he could call a DD he'd be much more disliked than is now. The punters would have had over a year to see what a dickhead he is. It would be the shortest government in the history of this country, bring it on.

Bump for the f wits that think the man that indecently assaults women will repeal a thing.

Then you better tell Labor and Greens not to block it

Otherwise it will be on their head

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #50 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:41pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:36pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:55pm:

Vic wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

"the first piece of legislation to be debated in the Parliament will be the repeal of the Carbon Tax."

And when it reaches the senate and is absolutely and positively caned, I will call out Margie to help me, cause those mean senators are hurting poh hubby Grin

You lefties are not only stupid but you are also blind

He said
Quote:

If Labor and the Greens combine to block the express will of the Australian people, a Coalition Government would seek dissolution of both Houses of Parliament.
We would then introduce the legislation to abolish the Carbon Tax at a subsequent Joint Sitting of the Parliament.

A DD election would take years, not months. The new senators elected at the next election don't come in until the middle of the next year for starters, fool
IF and it's a giant IF, phony tony sneaks in at the next election by the time he could call a DD he'd be much more disliked than is now. The punters would have had over a year to see what a dickhead he is. It would be the shortest government in the history of this country, bring it on.

Bump for the f wits that think the man that indecently assaults women will repeal a thing.

Then you better tell Labor and Greens not to block it

Otherwise it will be on their head

WHY? The GREENS want it, so do a lot of Australians. I say call the women assaulters bluff. Bring on a DD a couple of years down the track, which it would be. By then Abbott will be hated even more than he is now and will get his women assaulting ass kicked out as the shortest gov in history. Huh

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #51 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:42pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:36pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:55pm:

Vic wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

"the first piece of legislation to be debated in the Parliament will be the repeal of the Carbon Tax."

And when it reaches the senate and is absolutely and positively caned, I will call out Margie to help me, cause those mean senators are hurting poh hubby Grin

You lefties are not only stupid but you are also blind

He said
Quote:

If Labor and the Greens combine to block the express will of the Australian people, a Coalition Government would seek dissolution of both Houses of Parliament.
We would then introduce the legislation to abolish the Carbon Tax at a subsequent Joint Sitting of the Parliament.

A DD election would take years, not months. The new senators elected at the next election don't come in until the middle of the next year for starters, fool
IF and it's a giant IF, phony tony sneaks in at the next election by the time he could call a DD he'd be much more disliked than is now. The punters would have had over a year to see what a dickhead he is. It would be the shortest government in the history of this country, bring it on.

Bump for the f wits that think the man that indecently assaults women will repeal a thing.

Then you better tell Labor and Greens not to block it

Otherwise it will be on their head

I doubt that even the Greens want to be part of skyrocketing power prices while taking compensation away from households.
That will be on Abbotts head

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #53 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:52pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:36pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:55pm:

Vic wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

"the first piece of legislation to be debated in the Parliament will be the repeal of the Carbon Tax."

And when it reaches the senate and is absolutely and positively caned, I will call out Margie to help me, cause those mean senators are hurting poh hubby Grin

You lefties are not only stupid but you are also blind

He said
Quote:

If Labor and the Greens combine to block the express will of the Australian people, a Coalition Government would seek dissolution of both Houses of Parliament.
We would then introduce the legislation to abolish the Carbon Tax at a subsequent Joint Sitting of the Parliament.

A DD election would take years, not months. The new senators elected at the next election don't come in until the middle of the next year for starters, fool
IF and it's a giant IF, phony tony sneaks in at the next election by the time he could call a DD he'd be much more disliked than is now. The punters would have had over a year to see what a dickhead he is. It would be the shortest government in the history of this country, bring it on.

Bump for the f wits that think the man that indecently assaults women will repeal a thing.

Then you better tell Labor and Greens not to block it

Otherwise it will be on their head

It is the job of the Senate to block legislation that is incomplete, knee jerk and not good for the country. Should Abbott become PM and raise legislation to repeal the Carbon Pircing Scheme - then the Senate should through it out.

But we all know Abbott won't repeal it - because he won't be either PM or Leader of his Party - Maybe Julie Bishop might have a go? Grin

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #54 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:54pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

To oppose the mandate of a government elected on a platform of abolishing the Carbon Tax would be as reprehensible as the Gillard Government’s action to introduce a Carbon Tax without a mandate from the people.

If Labor and the Greens combine to block the express will of the Australian people, a Coalition Government would seek dissolution of both Houses of Parliament.
We would then introduce the legislation to abolish the Carbon Tax at a subsequent Joint Sitting of the Parliament.

Funny that he had no problem with opposing the mandate to price carbon in 2009/10, wonder if he understands that that was also reprehensible.

I can't wait to see him go to water.

Apparently a carbon tax was the best option when it was Abbott's idea, He clearly does not care about the carbon price its just a vehicle to gain power.

But there was no mandate to introduce a carbon tax in 2009/10. You can even ask Rob Dumbshott, because it was he who warned both leaders not to use the word "mandate" due to the hung parliament. Besides that, it was introduced after first promising not to do so.

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Reply #55 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 4:05pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

To oppose the mandate of a government elected on a platform of abolishing the Carbon Tax would be as reprehensible as the Gillard Government’s action to introduce a Carbon Tax without a mandate from the people.

If Labor and the Greens combine to block the express will of the Australian people, a Coalition Government would seek dissolution of both Houses of Parliament.
We would then introduce the legislation to abolish the Carbon Tax at a subsequent Joint Sitting of the Parliament.

Funny that he had no problem with opposing the mandate to price carbon in 2009/10, wonder if he understands that that was also reprehensible.

I can't wait to see him go to water.

Apparently a carbon tax was the best option when it was Abbott's idea, He clearly does not care about the carbon price its just a vehicle to gain power.

But there was no mandate to introduce a carbon tax in 2009/10. You can even ask Rob Dumbshott, because it was he who warned both leaders not to use the word "mandate" due to the hung parliament. Besides that, it was introduced after first promising not to do so.

The woman basher will never be PM , then the loonies will get their just deserts.

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Reply #56 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 4:21pm

Abbott can be responsible for scrapping the price on carbon and taking back the billions in compensation.
Labor and the Greens will let the whole sorry mess fall on Abbotts shoulders..rising prices, billions taken from general revenue to pay for Abbotts direct action plan and the scrapping of household and business compensation.
Remember Campbell Newman said he would bring down power prices in Queensland and look what has happened there Grin

Let Abbott pay the price for his lies.. Grin

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Reply #57 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 4:44pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 12:55pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 9:02pm:

In 2007 election both Labor and the Liberals had carbon pricing in their platform. There was a mandate to introduce a price.

Show me both LIB and ALP 2007 Policy Document to back your assertion please

You are absolutly aware that Both Labor and the Liberals had this election commitment.

Are you saying that unless it is shown to you in an official policy document you won't believe it?

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Reply #58 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 4:47pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:54pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 8:51pm:

To oppose the mandate of a government elected on a platform of abolishing the Carbon Tax would be as reprehensible as the Gillard Government’s action to introduce a Carbon Tax without a mandate from the people.

If Labor and the Greens combine to block the express will of the Australian people, a Coalition Government would seek dissolution of both Houses of Parliament.
We would then introduce the legislation to abolish the Carbon Tax at a subsequent Joint Sitting of the Parliament.

Funny that he had no problem with opposing the mandate to price carbon in 2009/10, wonder if he understands that that was also reprehensible.

I can't wait to see him go to water.

Apparently a carbon tax was the best option when it was Abbott's idea, He clearly does not care about the carbon price its just a vehicle to gain power.

But there was no mandate to introduce a carbon tax in 2009/10. You can even ask Rob Dumbshott, because it was he who warned both leaders not to use the word "mandate" due to the hung parliament. Besides that, it was introduced after first promising not to do so.

Before the Election in early 2010 or 2009 when Abbott was opposing the carbon price which he had campaigned in support of in 2007.

Abbott pretending to be outraged at the prospect of his mandate being blocked when he was happy enough to do the same himself.

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Reply #59 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:00pm

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YOUR GUIDE TO WHAT THE ALP PROMISED

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•Will ratify Kyoto Protocols

•Cut greenhouse gas emissions by 60% by 2050 through national carbon trading system

•20% renewable energy target by 2020, 30% wastewater recycling target by 2015

•$10,000 low-interest loans for householders to implement energy and water savings such as solar hot water, rainwater tanks and insulation and $489 million for National Solar Schools grants

•$500 million for National Clean Coal Fund

•$500 million for Green Car Challenge

•Support federal takeover of Murrary-Darling River system, but with more money spent sooner

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