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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #60 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:04pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:36pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 3:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 5:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:55pm:

Vic wrote on Dec 30^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

"the first piece of legislation to be debated in the Parliament will be the repeal of the Carbon Tax."

And when it reaches the senate and is absolutely and positively caned, I will call out Margie to help me, cause those mean senators are hurting poh hubby Grin

You lefties are not only stupid but you are also blind

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If Labor and the Greens combine to block the express will of the Australian people, a Coalition Government would seek dissolution of both Houses of Parliament.
We would then introduce the legislation to abolish the Carbon Tax at a subsequent Joint Sitting of the Parliament.

A DD election would take years, not months. The new senators elected at the next election don't come in until the middle of the next year for starters, fool
IF and it's a giant IF, phony tony sneaks in at the next election by the time he could call a DD he'd be much more disliked than is now. The punters would have had over a year to see what a dickhead he is. It would be the shortest government in the history of this country, bring it on.

Bump for the f wits that think the man that indecently assaults women will repeal a thing.

Then you better tell Labor and Greens not to block it

Otherwise it will be on their head

you mean the same way all those asylum seeker deaths are on the heads of the libs and greens? and everything else the libs have blocked ... why would labor even contemplate humouring Abbott when he has done nothing except play games from start to finish no matter what the cost .........

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax Reply #61 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:05pm in 2007 he makes an election promise for the year 2050??? abit like Bob Hawke's Quote: "We set ourselves this first goal: by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty."
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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #62 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:05pm:

in 2007 he makes an election promise for the year 2050???

abit like Bob Hawke's

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"We set ourselves this first goal: by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty."

well done Maqqa .... good to see you are true to form .... your argument gets shot down so you pull out another slogan

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Reply #63 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:10pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:05pm:

in 2007 he makes an election promise for the year 2050???

abit like Bob Hawke's

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"We set ourselves this first goal: by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty."

well done Maqqa .... good to see you are true to form .... your argument gets shot down so you pull out another slogan

Are you sure it was shot down?

Because I've got the policy documents word for word

The references you guys made is from a newspaper that referenced another newspaper

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Reply #64 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:14pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:05pm:

in 2007 he makes an election promise for the year 2050???

By introducing carbon trading now, you missed that part?

THe same as the Howard commitment to introduce a carbon trading scheme by 2012.

This is the same commitment that Abbott campaigned in favour of and then after the election ignored the mandated position for his political benifit.

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Reply #65 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:15pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:05pm:

in 2007 he makes an election promise for the year 2050???

abit like Bob Hawke's

Quote:

"We set ourselves this first goal: by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty."

well done Maqqa .... good to see you are true to form .... your argument gets shot down so you pull out another slogan

Are you sure it was shot down?

Because I've got the policy documents word for word

The references you guys made is from a newspaper that referenced another newspaper

have you got policy document (word for word) whith Gillard promising no carbon tax? SO i guess that wasn't a comitment then was it, after all, Maqqa hasn't got the policy documents!!

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Reply #66 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:16pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:05pm:

in 2007 he makes an election promise for the year 2050???

abit like Bob Hawke's

Quote:

"We set ourselves this first goal: by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty."

well done Maqqa .... good to see you are true to form .... your argument gets shot down so you pull out another slogan

Maqqa is like that. He hid under a rock for months after the last couple of elections.

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #67 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:16pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:05pm:

in 2007 he makes an election promise for the year 2050???

abit like Bob Hawke's

Quote:

"We set ourselves this first goal: by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty."

well done Maqqa .... good to see you are true to form .... your argument gets shot down so you pull out another slogan

Are you sure it was shot down?

Because I've got the policy documents word for word

The references you guys made is from a newspaper that referenced another newspaper

Yeah they just made it all up - the commitments originally came from Howard and Rudd.

Show me the policy document where Gillard promised to not introduce a catbon tax?

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Reply #68 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:25pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:16pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:05pm:

in 2007 he makes an election promise for the year 2050???

abit like Bob Hawke's

Quote:

"We set ourselves this first goal: by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty."

well done Maqqa .... good to see you are true to form .... your argument gets shot down so you pull out another slogan

Are you sure it was shot down?

Because I've got the policy documents word for word

The references you guys made is from a newspaper that referenced another newspaper

Yeah they just made it all up - the commitments originally came from Howard and Rudd.

Show me the policy document where Gillard promised to not introduce a catbon tax?

There wasn't any policy to introduce a carbon tax

and she she reinforced that view with her now infamous last words "There will be no carbon tax....."

philperth claims that Rudd had a mandate in 2007 to introduce an ETS as well as negotiate with Abbott on the ETS - I am asking for that policy document

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #69 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:31pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:25pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:16pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:07pm:

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:05pm:

in 2007 he makes an election promise for the year 2050???

abit like Bob Hawke's

Quote:

"We set ourselves this first goal: by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty."

well done Maqqa .... good to see you are true to form .... your argument gets shot down so you pull out another slogan

Are you sure it was shot down?

Because I've got the policy documents word for word

The references you guys made is from a newspaper that referenced another newspaper

Yeah they just made it all up - the commitments originally came from Howard and Rudd.

Show me the policy document where Gillard promised to not introduce a catbon tax?

There wasn't any policy to introduce a carbon tax

and she she reinforced that view with her now infamous last words "There will be no carbon tax....."

philperth claims that Rudd had a mandate in 2007 to introduce an ETS - I am asking for that policy document

do you think a committment has to be official policy only Gumpy? If Rudd said he would intorduce a ETS several times during the campain, isn't that enough? if a politician makes a comitment during an election campain we don't hold them to it?

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #70 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 6:40pm

Maqqa wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:25pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 5:16pm:

Yeah they just made it all up - the commitments originally came from Howard and Rudd.

Show me the policy document where Gillard promised to not introduce a catbon tax?

There wasn't any policy to introduce a carbon tax

and she she reinforced that view with her now infamous last words "There will be no carbon tax....."

philperth claims that Rudd had a mandate in 2007 to introduce an ETS as well as negotiate with Abbott on the ETS - I am asking for that policy document

I thibk I get it:

If you promise to do something which is different from your policy and not a policy you are stuck with it and a liar if you change your mind.

If you promise to do something and there is no policy it is ok to ignore your positon after the election if you like (as long as you are a Liberal).

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Australia: Strong, Prosperous and Secure
Coalition policies—National progress OCTOBER 2007

As well as meeting our global responsibilities, the Coalition is committed to carefully managing Australia’s transition to a low carbon future.

To reduce domestic emissions at least economic cost, we will establish a world-class domestic emissions trading scheme in Australia (planned to commence in 2011).

We are also committed to capturing the opportunities from being among the first movers on carbon trading in the Asia-Pacific region.

This is the Liberal Policy that Tont Abbott was supporting in 2007.

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Reply #71 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm

http://www.climateinstitute.org.au/verve/_resources/climate_-_its_more_than_just...

Climate change was the third most important distinguishing policy between the major parties at the recent election. Half of all voters (50%) believed that it represented a large difference between the parties and a further 34% believed there was a small difference between the parties on climate change policy. Climate change was seen as representing a greater different than: The economy; Education; Health; Interest rates; and National security.

• The only two issues which reflected a greater difference between the parties were industrial relations (76% saw a ‘large difference’) and ‘leadership’ (60%)..........

Almost 8 out of 10 voters (79%) agreed that climate change was important at the election because they wanted to see “a clean energy future for Australia based on renewable energy”.
This was followed by the desire to doing “something to protect the future for the next generation” (67% agree) and “see Australia as a leader in action and negotiations on climate change” (66% agree).

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax Reply #72 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 7:46pm Just wait until Abbott takes back all the compensation money and tax breaks and energy prices keep on increasing..the public will string him up by his saggy ball bag Im looking forward to it
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Reply #73 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 10:23pm

Dnarever wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 7:09pm:

http://www.climateinstitute.org.au/verve/_resources/climate_-_its_more_than_just...

Climate change was the third most important distinguishing policy between the major parties at the recent election. Half of all voters (50%) believed that it represented a large difference between the parties and a further 34% believed there was a small difference between the parties on climate change policy. Climate change was seen as representing a greater different than: The economy; Education; Health; Interest rates; and National security.

• The only two issues which reflected a greater difference between the parties were industrial relations (76% saw a ‘large difference’) and ‘leadership’ (60%)..........

Almost 8 out of 10 voters (79%) agreed that climate change was important at the election because they wanted to see “a clean energy future for Australia based on renewable energy”.
This was followed by the desire to doing “something to protect the future for the next generation” (67% agree) and “see Australia as a leader in action and negotiations on climate change” (66% agree).

WOW, what happened to THAT Australia.

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #74 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 11:27pm

adelcrow wrote on Dec 31^st, 2012 at 7:46pm:

Just wait until Abbott takes back all the compensation money and tax breaks and energy prices keep on increasing..the public will string him up by his saggy ball bag Grin

Im looking forward to it

The $3 tax break compensation?!
Yeah it will be a massive loss.

Remember Labor also are INCREASING the middle tax band rate in the next few years as well.

As usual us in the middle get bugger all help from the Labor party.

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