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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax Reply #90 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 6:02pm There was a massive transferral of public debt to private debt. It would be interesting to see which deciles were forced to carry this load.
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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #91 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 6:20pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:43pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 8:28am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 8:25am:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 7:13am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 5:21am:

Who are you or anyone else to decide what is needed?

Let me tell you something. A family of 4 with a single income earner, high mortgage, school fees, two cars, bills, groceries etc is not living on easy street that they can see their bills rise due to a nonsense tax and get no help at all.

It's obviously easier for single people like you buy for families it's a big deal.

The carbon tax was a load of rubbish and families up and down Australia received no help at all and it is not for you to say they didn't need it.

Abbott will scrap the tax along with the compensation and prices will not fall in fact they will continue to rise..you can take that to the bank.

along with the compensation

Abbott's commitment is to keep the compensation (even though there is no way he can afford it).

why would affordability bother you when you've ignored Labor's 5 largest ever deficits (going on 6) and the $350B debt

All that Abbotts plans can do is add to the debt and put the next surplus further into the future unless his promises are all non core.

Ah, well, IF the Labor Debt is much greater "than expected", WHEN the Libs win the next election, THEN ALL PROMISES WILL BE NON CORE!

AND, it won't be their (the Libs) fault, it will be Labors fault, because they told porkies about how poor a financial position they left.

And, IF any of that rings a bell, THEN it should because its already been done before, many times, including most recently in Queensland & NSW, where the state Libs where both caught out, "embellishing" the facts. The NSW Libs were caught out by the Auditor General & the Qld LNP were caught out by their money hero (?), young Clive Palmer.

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #92 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 8:05pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 5:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:43pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 8:28am:

why would affordability bother you when you've ignored Labor's 5 largest ever deficits (going on 6) and the $350B debt

All that Abbotts plans can do is add to the debt and put the next surplus further into the future unless his promises are all non core.

As said, that hasnt bothered you at all with labors spending like a drunkin sailor. Spend spend spend. The economy needs it.

Good to see you are in total acceptance of Abbotts spending, even if that spending is only in your ideological mind.

with labors spending like a drunkin sailor.

The only real spending was to stimulate the economy and prevent a much more serious downturn the term spend like a drunken sailor is absolute rubbish.

Good to see you are in total acceptance of Abbotts spending, even if that spending is only in your ideological mind

DAVID KOCH:

Ok. Alright. There is a bit of argument on that from both sides as we can understand. But you said if you get elected at the next election you will overturn the carbon tax but keep the compensation. Now, after seeing what surprised everyone as a very generous compensation package, are you able to still promise that now?

What Abbott has clearly promised is not only in my ideological mind, it came directly out of Mr Abbotts ideologically driven mouth, another commitment that he can not keep because he can not afford to pay for it.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74527 Gender:	Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax Reply #93 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:02pm Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax It's still funny, no matter how many times I read it.
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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax Reply #94 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:40pm John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:02pm: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax It's still funny, no matter how many times I read it. simple minds are easily amused
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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #95 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:44pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 8:05pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 5:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:43pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 8:28am:

why would affordability bother you when you've ignored Labor's 5 largest ever deficits (going on 6) and the $350B debt

All that Abbotts plans can do is add to the debt and put the next surplus further into the future unless his promises are all non core.

As said, that hasnt bothered you at all with labors spending like a drunkin sailor. Spend spend spend. The economy needs it.

Good to see you are in total acceptance of Abbotts spending, even if that spending is only in your ideological mind.

with labors spending like a drunkin sailor.

The only real spending was to stimulate the economy and prevent a much more serious downturn the term spend like a drunken sailor is absolute rubbish.

So all spending is the same for you? To you there's no such thing as wastage. Cool. Then you can't complain the LIBs wasted money

Good to see you are in total acceptance of Abbotts spending, even if that spending is only in your ideological mind

DAVID KOCH:

Ok. Alright. There is a bit of argument on that from both sides as we can understand. But you said if you get elected at the next election you will overturn the carbon tax but keep the compensation. Now, after seeing what surprised everyone as a very generous compensation package, are you able to still promise that now?

What Abbott has clearly promised is not only in my ideological mind, it came directly out of Mr Abbotts ideologically driven mouth, another commitment that he can not keep because he can not afford to pay for it.

He's trying to fix a Labor mistake - the mistake was to RATIFY KYOTO. Suck it up princess

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax Reply #96 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:44pm I am willing to vote for Abbott to put a wrecking ball through everything the ALP has done and for him to smack up the middle class and look after his rich mates....
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74527 Gender:	Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax Reply #97 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:30pm Maqqa wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:40pm: John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:02pm: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax It's still funny, no matter how many times I read it. simple minds are easily amused you would know ehh Gumpy !!!!
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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #98 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:31pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:30pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:02pm:

Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax

Grin

It's still funny, no matter how many times I read it.

simple minds are easily amused

you would know ehh Gumpy !!!!

It is difficult to avoid noticing. Maybe if your werent simple or posted less, it wouldnt be.

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #99 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:35pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:30pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:02pm:

Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax

Grin

It's still funny, no matter how many times I read it.

simple minds are easily amused

you would know ehh Gumpy !!!!

It is difficult to avoid noticing. Maybe if your werent simple or posted less, it wouldnt be.

ohh, looky ... tweedle dum has joined the party .

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #100 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:37pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:35pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:30pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 4:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:02pm:

Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax

Grin

It's still funny, no matter how many times I read it.

simple minds are easily amused

you would know ehh Gumpy !!!!

It is difficult to avoid noticing. Maybe if your werent simple or posted less, it wouldnt be.

ohh, looky ... tweedle dum has joined the party .

Yeh see, you should have taken my advise. Now look what you have done. You just confirmed it.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58507 Here Gender:	Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax Reply #101 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:54pm John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:02pm: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax It's still funny, no matter how many times I read it. Is this policy listed next to the plan to re introduce the Morris Mini Minor and the Ford Zephyr and bring back the marlboro man.
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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #102 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:57pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 5:54pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:02pm:

Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax

Grin

It's still funny, no matter how many times I read it.

Is this policy listed next to the plan to re introduce the Morris Mini Minor and the Ford Zephyr and bring back the marlboro man.

http://www.gla.msstate.edu/mmsoc/subliminal/marlboro.jpg

http://www.motorstown.com/images/ford-zephyr-04.jpg

and during his spare time Abbott plans to spend it looking for a yetti.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #103 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:04pm

Good luck to anyone that thinks energy prices are going to fall when Abbott cans the price on carbon.
Just as private health insurance kept on increasing its prices after Howard threw billions of taxpayer dollars at them the energy companies will keep raising prices after Abbott takes back the compensation and cans the price on carbon.
Theres a sucker born every minute

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Re: Our plan to Abolish the Carbon Tax
Reply #104 - Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 8:34pm

adelcrow wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:04pm:

Good luck to anyone that thinks energy prices are going to fall when Abbott cans the price on carbon.
Just as private health insurance kept on increasing its prices after Howard threw billions of taxpayer dollars at them the energy companies will keep raising prices after Abbott takes back the compensation and cans the price on carbon.
Theres a sucker born every minute

they all know cutting the carbon tax won't reduce electricity prices (well, maybe not progs, he seems a little slow sometimes) ... it's just a convenient excuse to bag labor

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