progressiveslol wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:18pm:

Gold Medal lied.

He wrote that
it was sent out to 10,000+ 'climate scientists' a massive number of 76 responded.

That is false

And of the 10, 257 people approached to take part in this survey, 3,146 or 30.7% chose to participate.
http://www.garnautreview.org.au/update-2011/commissioned-work/the-'scientigic-co...

79 of the 3,149 respondants were "defined as those who had both ‘nominated climate science as their area of expertise’ and ‘published more than 50% of their recent peer- reviewed papers on... climate change’"

Gold Medal told a deliberate lie.  Just as he did when he told a deliberate lie about glaciers receding. 

76 that were deemed worthy by the cult responded and to get the result wanted. Not hard to see how he was right. He just left out the cult worthiness.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:39pm:

Yes - but of course, you are an idiot:

The number of respondents for the survey as a whole is large; leaving aside the question of response rates, 3,146 is a large sample by almost any measure. And with 82% of respondents as a whole agreeing that ‘human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures’ we might reasonably conclude that in this survey the proposition in question was overwhelmingly supported.
http://www.garnautreview.org.au/update-2011/commissioned-work/the-'scientigic-co...

He deliberately lied.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:08pm:

Yes, he did.

He wrote that:
it was sent out to 10,000+ 'climate scientists' a massive number of 76 responded

It was sent to 10,257 people - not all scientists - and 3146 people responded. 

If that is not a deliberate attempt to spread misinformation - I don't know what is

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:08pm:

The true figures show that he told a lie.
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:08pm:

Did I have a "97%" argument?!?!  What was that?!?!?

And how was Doran's figure of 97% a sham?  97% of the people that responded to that survey who who had both ‘nominated climate science as their area of expertise’ and ‘published more than 50% of their recent peer- reviewed papers on... climate change’ agreed that ‘human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures’.  All 79 of them.  Where is the "sham"?

This result was almost exactly the same as that arrived at in Lichter 2008:

97% of the 489 scientists surveyed agreed that that global temperatures have risen over the past century. Moreover, 84% agreed that “human-induced greenhouse warming” is now occurring.” Only 5% disagreed with the idea that human activity is a significant cause of global warming.
http://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/climate-change/structure-scie...

Is that a "sham" too?


greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:08pm:

It pains me very greatly to have to make these accusations.  But when Gold Medal claims that glaciers have stopped receding and provides no supportive evidence, or when he deliberately spreads misinformation about a surveys methodology - what other conclusions can one draw?

There is no misinformation.

The 97% is just 76 respondants from 10000 sent out. You can disregard the others of the 3000+ because they didnt use them in the 97% figure.

You are just crying over symantics. Gold was accurate.