rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 6:25pm:



When losing an argument, resort to semantics.

Lies, fear-mongering, hyperbole, Godwin's Law, semantics, colourful graphs, data manipulation.  You AGW alarmists have it all.  The only thing missing is science and some convincing evidence.  Get back to me when you start using those two methods, OK?  There's a good lad.

So what's the current annual rise in sea levels, Maqqa?

MOTR wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:



I'm not playing any semantics games.  My god, you don't even know the meaning of the word.

This guy is resorting to 'Hitler' and 'gravity' in order to support the AGW hypothesis.

You can't see how ridiculous that is?  You can't see how that destroys his credibility?

The AGW religion is slowly dying because of ignorant fools like him. You really should have him removed from the church if you want to keep pushing your agenda with any level of success.

Maqqa wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 7:02pm:

I don't know Maqqa.  What are "all these images" you are talking about?

Here is an image that shows you sea level rise due to thermal expansion:

http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/fig/figure-5-19.jpeg
Figure 5.19. Global sea level change due to thermal expansion for 1955 to 2003, based on Levitus et al. (2005a; black line) and Ishii et al. (2006; red line) for the 0 to 700 m layer, and based on Willis et al. (2004; green line) for the upper 750 m. The shaded area and the vertical red and green error bars represent the 90% confidence interval. The black and red curves denote the deviation from their 1961 to 1990 average, the shorter green curve the deviation from the average of the black curve for the period 1993 to 2003.
http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch5s5-5-3.html

Maqqa wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 7:03pm:



Yes, that's one of their methods I forgot to mention: diversion.

The AGW alarmists will use anything to promote their hypothesis: anything except science and the truth.

Tsk tsk

gold_medal wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 6:33pm:


Rubbish. You don't even accept that El Niño events have a significant impact on temperatures. You don't have enough knowledge to assess whether the predictive models are a joke or not.

Maqqa wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 7:03pm:


I just wanted to be sure you understood that thermal expansion was the major contributor to the rise in sea level.

MOTR wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 7:05pm:


and few mms of it. hottest temperatures in history and the rise is MILLIMETRES?? by your own statements, sea level reise is no problem at all.

A study published last March by Climate Central found sea-level rise due to global warming had already doubled the risk of extreme flood events – so-called once in a century floods – for dozens of locations up and down the Atlantic and Pacific coasts.

It singled out the California cities of Los Angeles and San Diego on the Pacific coast and Jacksonville, Florida, and Savannah, Georgia, on the Atlantic, as the most vulnerable to historic flooding due to sea-level rise.

Sandy, which produced a 9ft storm surge at Battery Park in New York City, produced one example of the dangerous combination of storm surges and rising sea level. In New York, each additional foot of water puts up to 100,000 additional people at risk, according to a map published with the study.

But tens of millions of people are potentially at risk across the country. The same report noted that more than half of the population, in some 285 US cities and towns, lived less than 1m above the high tide mark.

"In some places it takes only a few inches of sea-level rise to convert a once in a century storm to a once in a decade storm," said Ben Strauss, who directs the sea-level rise programme at Climate Central.

Large swathes of the mid-Atlantic coast, from Virginia through New Jersey, also faced elevated risk of severe flooding, because of climate change, he said.