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Re: Saudis arrests 41 people for celebratin Christmas
Reply #30 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:30am
 
athos wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 10:13am:
Karnal wrote on Dec 31st, 2012 at 9:15am:
Ah, the old Muselmen Christmas story. Why'd you change the last line, Athos? The article actually reads:

"It is not known, at present, whether the people detained in the raid were released or if they will face further prosecution."

Your quote reads:

"It is not known, at present, whether the people detained will face death penalty."

The article contains no news of an arrest, a prosecution, or an imprisonment. I've Googled and found nothing more than this article.

You know what I think? Given they were with diplomats, the Saudi government would have discretely told the religious police to let them go and stop wasting everybody's time.

I could be wrong, of course, but it makes a lot more sense than facing the death penalty.

People wonder how the media can be so sloppy, and here it is in black and white. It's not sloppiness, it's blatant manipulation and re-writing the facts.

If you've got an agenda, no problem. Make the agenda fit the facts - not the other way around.


It was actually combination from more than one world media articles. You can go on the net and find it out, anyhow Saudis are famous for easily chopping heads and arms.
The fact is that majority of European countries will become Muslim states in about 15 years time. The same destiny waits for Australia if it continues with such tolerant policy towards Muslims.


One way to stop it is to condition Muslim migrants to convert, preferably in Christianity, before they migrate to other countries, including uncompromising stands against barbaric Muslim practices.



The same as Saudi Arabia has towards civilized people.




I don't think that is practical athos.

You can't 'require' that people 'believe' something, or 'require' that people adopt a faith, because you want them to.





[I am 'dreaming' i know...]

I would like;
1/ the Australian government to acknowledge that ISLAM is akin to Nazism, and therefore i would like the Australian government to announce that ISLAM's adherents are not welcome in Australia. And make laws, and enforce those laws to that effect.
2/ that former moslems be permitted to migrate to Australia, IF, IF, they are prepared to publicly renounce ISLAM, with an oath.     [....with extremely harsh provisions in place, for those who take such an oath, and then subsequently are discovered to be acting on behalf of ISLAM, as moslem conspirators.]


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Re: Saudis arrests 41 people for celebratin Christmas
Reply #31 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:45am
 
What Athos is saying is, look, it doesn’t matter whether 41 guestworkers get the chop or not. That’s not the point. We need to stop them coming over here - by forced conversion if necessary.

Who cares whether the original article is dodgy or not? The premise still stands: we’ll be a Muslim country in 15 years time. And what do we base this on?

Well, articles like the above. Articles we need to tweak slightly to make them more truthful.

If evidence is presented to the contrary - lies. How could it possibly be true? We have our surgically-enhanced truthful information. Nothing is more real than what we’ve made up.

This is the Orwellian circus we’ve come to participate in. Stalin couldn’t keep up. Goebbels was an amateur by comparrison. It’s a world where hate-sites are held up as unquestionable fact, and undoctored, unbiased journalism is part of some Satanic conspiracy.

This worldview is not about Islam at all. The enemy will change. It’s about maintaining a permanent state of anger, fear and self-righteous indignation. Emotions like these are much more easily channeled than critical thinking. To present a solution, you always need a problem first. And what better problem than the end of Western civilisation?

In 15 years time.

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Re: Saudis arrests 41 people for celebratin Christmas
Reply #32 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:45am
 
It is funny how christmas ruffles many muslims feathers. They'll just have to get used to it because we aint changing for them.
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Reply #33 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:52am
 
Big Dave wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:45am:
It is funny how christmas ruffles many muslims feathers. They'll just have to get used to it because we aint changing for them.


Right. Let’s get a bit of a p!ss up happening over in Mecca, Big Dave. That’ll show em.

What are they going to do? Behead us?
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Reply #34 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:54am
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:16am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 9:28am:
Yadda has nothing against executions, friends. He just fears for the 41 poor souls who face sure death for plotting to celebrate Christmas.

Google "sure death for plotting to celebrate Christmas".




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Good point.
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Re: Saudis arrests 41 people for celebratin Christmas
Reply #35 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:59am
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:54am:
Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:16am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 9:28am:
Yadda has nothing against executions, friends. He just fears for the 41 poor souls who face sure death for plotting to celebrate Christmas.

Google "sure death for plotting to celebrate Christmas".




"Quack Quack"




Good point.




No.

But the content of this [below], makes a good point;

YOUTUBE
ISLAM - THREE THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OzxiHfWvBGw


ISLAM is a vicious and deceitful philosophy, which uses its claim to be 'religious' as a veil, to hide its true nefarious intent.


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Re: Saudis arrests 41 people for celebratin Christmas
Reply #36 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:07pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:52am:
Big Dave wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:45am:
It is funny how christmas ruffles many muslims feathers. They'll just have to get used to it because we aint changing for them.


Right. Let’s get a bit of a p!ss up happening over in Mecca, Big Dave. That’ll show em.

What are they going to do? Behead us?
One of the biggest muslim organisations in aus if not the biggest (Lakemba mosque)  posted an anti-christmas instruction to all muslims not to even wish people a merry christmas on facebook. It was MADE to take it and wouldn't have otherwise. Why don't you just bend over and atleast try to pull your head out of your ass Karnal. Just a little bit even.
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Reply #37 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:09pm
 
Big Dave wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:45am:
It is funny how christmas ruffles many muslims feathers.


They'll just have to get used to it because we aint changing for them.






Not true Dave.

In many places in Europe, and north America non-moslem communities are 'giving up' on public nativity scenes, and public declarations of "Merry Christmas", because of complaints of 'offence' from local moslems.

And instead many non-moslem communities in those places are now publicly displaying 'festive' signs which declare "Seasons Greetings".




Isn't that 'changing for them' ?

Isn't that 'bowing the knee' to moslem sensibilities ?





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Revelation 13:7
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9  If any man have an ear, let him hear.

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Re: Saudis arrests 41 people for celebratin Christmas
Reply #38 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:19pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:09pm:
Big Dave wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:45am:
It is funny how christmas ruffles many muslims feathers.


They'll just have to get used to it because we aint changing for them.






Not true Dave.

In many places in Europe, and north America non-moslem communities are 'giving up' on public nativity scenes, and public declarations of "Merry Christmas", because of complaints of 'offence' from local moslems.

And instead many non-moslem communities in those places are now publicly displaying 'festive' signs which declare "Seasons Greetings".




Isn't that 'changing for them' ?

Isn't that 'bowing the knee' to moslem sensibilities ?





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Revelation 13:7
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9  If any man have an ear, let him hear.


This piss weak do-gooders in australian government are changing things  but the average person isn't. My neighbourhood is still lit up with lights. I remember there being christmas cartoons on for days before christmas. I don't think I saw one this year. The media and government is definitely trying to tone it down.
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Reply #39 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:27pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:16am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 9:28am:
Yadda has nothing against executions, friends. He just fears for the 41 poor souls who face sure death for plotting to celebrate Christmas.

Google "sure death for plotting to celebrate Christmas".




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Waiting for the fairy king?

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Reply #40 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:42pm
 
Big Dave wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:07pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:52am:
Big Dave wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:45am:
It is funny how christmas ruffles many muslims feathers. They'll just have to get used to it because we aint changing for them.


Right. Let’s get a bit of a p!ss up happening over in Mecca, Big Dave. That’ll show em.

What are they going to do? Behead us?
One of the biggest muslim organisations in aus if not the biggest (Lakemba mosque)  posted an anti-christmas instruction to all muslims not to even wish people a merry christmas on facebook. It was MADE to take it and wouldn't have otherwise. Why don't you just bend over and atleast try to pull your head out of your ass Karnal. Just a little bit even.


What a load of crap. What actually happened is someone posted a link to some nutcase site on their Facebook page.

Not only did they take the link down, they made a public statement supporting Christmas, the birth of Christ, interfaith dialogue and Muslim.assimilation into Australian culture.  If I’m not mistaken, they even put on a Christmas barbecue.

News Ltd, however, reported that the link remained up - wait for it- for almost a day!

The Australian Muslim Association’s Facebook page - now that’s news. Rupert must have round the clock surveilance.

MADE to take the link down? Now let’s see, which organisation polices the internet to make everybody comply to having a jolly Christmas?

ASIO? The religious police? The Australian Retailers Association? Fred Nile’s private militia?
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Re: Saudis arrests 41 people for celebratin Christmas
Reply #41 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:45pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:27pm:
Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:16am:
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 9:28am:
Yadda has nothing against executions, friends. He just fears for the 41 poor souls who face sure death for plotting to celebrate Christmas.

Google "sure death for plotting to celebrate Christmas".




"Quack Quack"




Waiting for the fairy king?

SOB



For my imaginary friend.




Psalms 130:5
I wait for the LORD, my soul doth wait, and in his word do I hope.


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Reply #42 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:53pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:42pm:

What a load of crap.
What actually happened is someone posted a link to some nutcase site on their Facebook page.

Not only did they take the link down, they made a public statement supporting Christmas, the birth of Christ, interfaith dialogue and Muslim.assimilation into Australian culture.  If I’m not mistaken, they even put on a Christmas barbecue.

News Ltd, however, reported that the link remained up - wait for it- for almost a day!

The Australian Muslim Association’s Facebook page - now that’s news. Rupert must have round the clock surveilance.







".....someone posted a link to some nutcase site on their Facebook page."


???????????


Not so.

The way that i heard it reported;

An Imam in the mosque GAVE A SERMON ON THE SUBJECT, and told moslems that Christmas was taboo for moslems.

Isn't that correct ?

That an Imam in a Sydney/Melbourne mosque GAVE A SERMON ON THE SUBJECT  ?




But then, LATER, the moslems 'retracted'.

But only, after what the Imam stated, had been widely reported within the non-moslem community.

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Reply #43 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 1:07pm
 
Of course you heard it that way. You get your news from Jihadwatch.

Look at the facts. After coming out and condemning the recent wave of Muslim protests throughout the mainstream media, the Imams have been doing everything in their power to fit in, toe the line and sell Islam as a peaceful world religion in the Judeo-Christian tradition.

And then they think, bugger it, lets tell everyone to hate Christmas and p!ss off the locals.

The nutcase Muslims do not get their info from the imams. Sermons in mosques are quite boring, and nothing you wouln’t hear in a stuffy old church or synagogue. Be nice, obey the law, work hard, pray, and don’t offend the Daily Telegraph.

But you and Big Dave, of course, have superior information. What the imams are really doing is waging a violent jihad on the Australian people and colluding with the government and the media to show less Christmas cartoons on the tele.

Now that really is going too far.
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Reply #44 - Jan 1st, 2013 at 1:12pm
 
Yadda wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:53pm:

The way that i heard it reported;

An Imam in the mosque GAVE A SERMON ON THE SUBJECT, and told moslems that Christmas was taboo for moslems.

Isn't that correct ?

That an Imam in a Sydney/Melbourne mosque GAVE A SERMON ON THE SUBJECT  ?




But then, LATER, the moslems 'retracted'.

But only, after what the Imam stated, had been widely reported within the non-moslem community.






And shouldn't this incident be very instructive to us ???

i.e.
That incident shows us, that all we need to do, to put moslems 'in their place', is to assert our own values, and to reject ISLAMIC values, BECAUSE MOSLEMS ARE COWARDS, WHEN CONFRONTED WITH CONVICTION AND TRUTH.

Moslems will shout a lot, and wave placards, but basically, they are hoping that we will just 'fold', in response to their demands.i
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What generally happens to people who surrender to moslem promises and assurances,
.....is that they are first made defenceless,
.....then those who could resist the moslems are slaughtered.


As a Jewish community of artisans [in Arabia] who surrendered to Mohammed and his companions found out.

After they had surrendered, Mohammed and his companions slaughter all of the men [taking them away in small groups, to their slaughter].

And then Mohammed and his companions 'divided' the women and children of that community among themselves, as war booty.





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