The bit at the end  (Happy Hanukkah) shows a similar kind of cultural awareness in the US.

What's the big deal? I'm sure that imams and rabbis are not the only ones to advise against celebrating Christmas. Who cares? Nobody takes any notice.

StrangeBedFellow wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 6:46pm:



StrangeBedFellow,

K is capable of presenting a reasonable argument, and engaging in reasoned debate.

But what you must understand about K and his debating style, is that if you defeat K's argument in debate [by presenting a fact supported counter argument],
K will never cleanly concede [by acknowledgement, or, with his silence] that you have defeated his argument.

Of course, K would try present another counter argument, to try to defeat your argument, if he could.

But unable to defeat your argument with sound reason [or with supporting facts] K will then, ALWAYS, resorts to responding with absurdities.
e.g.
#53
Quote:


AND,

#55
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With K, it seems to be an ego 'defence mechanism'.

Defeat K's argument, and all he has left is inane reply,  ....which is intended to deflect [and discredit] the thrust of your own reasoned argument.

Karnal wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:02pm:



K,

Clearly with the inanity that is in many of your posts, you are showing that you do not.

Er, three million maids a milking?

Couldn’t say that in Saudi Arabia. Christmas carol, see.

Yadda wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 9:19pm:


Perhaps because there is nothing to care about? Nobody is being beheaded - athos made it up.

SOB

Yadda wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2013 at 6:50am:


Click on the link on the op and read it. Not the same as what athos said in his quotes as karnal pointed out a couple posts later.  There was no mention of beheading in the article.

SOB

Yadda wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 8:59pm:


Not at all. I don’t believe any Lakemba imam gave a sermon telling people not to wish anyone a merry Christmas. Given their current stance, it seems completely contradictory.

I believe it’s possible, however, that if asked a question in private about this issue, an imam would tell a  devout Muslim not to celebrate Christmas. For Muslims (and I agree with them),  Christmas is a pagan festival, and not a religious one. Muslims see the Abrahamic religions as a step up from paganism. Well, like Christians, they believe paganism is Satanic.

But - what Big Dave and I say about imams and Lakemba Mosque is all speculation. We don’t know, and we can’t trust the news to report accurately on these matters. The beheading quote is one small example in a barrage of crap about Islam.

The Saudis ARE a despotic regime, there are no two ways about it. Their "religious" state is a clever way to manage the population and provide oil security. This is why they are tolerated. Their version of Islam is no more pure than anyone else’s, including Lakemba Mosque.

The photos I posted are accurate. They are clearly designed to showcase a Christmas celebration in Saudi Arabia and wipe the Saudis faces in it. I like the bit about "spreaded the word of the Saviour" - a nice touch in a totalitarian state. The Saudis do not tolerate such public celebrations, but if done discretely in guestworker accommodation, would probably turn the other way. There are plenty of Christian and Hindu guestworkers in Suadi Arabia, and they continue to practice their faiths the best way they can. They are certainly not required to convert to any other religion, as Athos has suggested should happen here.

Arresting 41 people is not something that can be done lightly, but we don't have any information, do we? The article can't even confirm whether they were detained or let go. Because of this, my guess is they were released. The article's clear purpose is to flog the Muslims spoiling Christmas routine. It's not interested in providing minor details - i.e, like nothing happened.

Allah Uakbar!