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Reply #15 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:17pm

Jenny Mackin says she can live on the dole. What a joke, she should be forced to prove it, and I don't mean by living in the house she owns either.

Her department has gone into desperation mode in an effort to cover the adverse effects her big mouth will incur. They're saying the tape is inaudible. Listen for yourself, I can hear it clearly.

"A person living on the dole receives $246 a week.

As a Cabinet Minister, Ms Macklin earns $6321 a week."

http://www.news.com.au/national/i-could-live-on-the-dole-says-families-minister-...

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Reply #16 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:19pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 1:20pm:

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“Newstart is paid at a much lower rate than parenting payment. These cuts should be delayed until Newstart is increased.” Wink

Totally agree with this. The long term costs of cutting payments to already dislocated families could well be more than the savings we make in the current budget. I despise welfare dependency and the damage it is wrecking on our community but there has to be a smarter way of revolving this problem.

We need to have a look at the extremely high effective marginal tax rates for people looking to move off welfare into a relatively low paying job. It might cost us more in the short term but the long term benefits would be huge.

disagree. Wlefare dependancy is not reduced by being kind. The depency came about in the first place due to too much freely given for nothing in return. They need to get a job and if they need to be forced to then bad luck. It could lead to the end of yet another family where no one works nor has any intention to do so.

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Reply #17 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:20pm

[quote author=Peter_Freedman link=1357008448/8#8 date=1357012938][quote author=philperth2010 link=1357008448/1#1 date=1357009011][quote]Tighter restraints on the parenting payment will see around 80,000 single parents, mainly mothers, forced off their pension and moved on to the dole [highlight]once their youngest child has turned eight[/highlight], leaving the families up to $223 a fortnight worse off.[/quote]

Why shouldn't parents go to work once the kids are all at school fulltime.....I see no valid reason why these people cannot work!!!

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It is fine if you believe raising children isn't a full time job and don't mind Australia raising a generation of latchkey kids wandering the streets getting into mischief.
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because kids have never been raised successfully and welfar-free by a working parent before?

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Reply #18 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:20pm

My sincere advice to all single mums victimized by Government policy is to make a file on your computer and save a copy of every article and video relating to this issue paying particular attention to what key politicians have top say. These politicians are targeting and victimizing you because of who you are, they are judging you according to social Darwinist values. They are trying to force you to compete on their terms in a dog eat dog world. Accepted you are being victimized and targeted because of who you are and take my advice and collect the evidence and save it...that is your defense...stand true to yourself and your own vales and opposition to their economic aggression...They are taking from single mothers and redirecting those funds to middle class families...You must hold them accountable... Cool

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Reply #19 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:21pm

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In order for them to work, there has to be a job there for them. In the mean time, they are put down onto the Newstart ( No start ) benifit, which is a much less payment. Sad

..to encourage them to get work which woudl be HIGHER paid.

do u not get the gist of ANY argument that employs that foreign (to you) concept of work?

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Reply #20 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:24pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 2:09pm:

I'm sick to death of politicians who place no value on parenting and believe the only work of any value is paid work.

You expect that sort of crap from the Libs, but Labor should know better.

if parenting is of such enormous value (and it is) then why would being paid or not to do so change it. Are you aware ot the billions of parents who raised their kids weith next ot no govt welfore before this?

some of these people have lost the ability to work. The govt is helping them find it again.

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Reply #21 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:25pm

Peter Freedman wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:07pm:

MOTR, I understand your point. There are many kids who can be trusted to behave when they come home to an empty house.

But that is for the parent and the child to decide together, it is not a role of government.

the govt isnt deciding it. It is just now not prepared to FUND that decision. now - like everyone else - they have to find jobs.

tough.

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Reply #22 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:30pm

Single Mums should take my advice...record everything business leaders, politicians and media are saying about them...control that information, share it and use it to defend yourself against their unprovoked aggression...you are being victimized and judged by the violent, the aggressive and competitive..don't forget that....

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Reply #23 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:36pm

corporate_whitey wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:30pm:

Single Mums should take my advice...record everything business leaders, politicians and media are saying about them...control that information, share it and use it to defend yourself against their unprovoked aggression...you are being victimized and judged by the violent, the aggressive and competitive..don't forget that....

Hows your unlosable High Court action going, twit? surely we would ahve heard about it by now. Or did you finally learn that it cost more than $100 to run a High Court action?

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Reply #25 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 4:52pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 1^st, 2013 at 1:15pm:

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“Newstart is paid at a much lower rate than parenting payment. These cuts should be delayed until Newstart is increased.” Wink

I agree new start should be increased especially since rents are so high.....However having a job is still the best security and provides the most opportunities for the future.....I think the Coalition will not wind this back if they win Government!!!

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Seriously - are there 80,000 jobs available for them? I dont think so

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Macklin Advice To Single Parents - Find A Job. Reply #26 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 5:02pm I advise single Mums to download every article and video today on what Jenny Macklin has said, file that information, control it, share it with other single Mums. Hold Jenny Macklin accountable for targeting you and victimizing you...
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Reply #27 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 6:42pm

Onece again Gold ( Mr Greedy ) has a go at people that are down on their luck. The single mothers. Its all very well to say to them get a job, bit its not much good if those jobs are not there. Yes of cours it would be better, if they had jobs, but do you think that they are just goung to walk into a job. In the mean time they are put down to the Newstart lesser payment, something like $100 or so a week less. Which will be as good as survivig in poverty. Sad

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Reply #28 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 6:48pm

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Onece again Gold ( Mr Greedy ) has a go at people that are down on their luck. The single mothers. Its all very well to say to them get a job, bit its not much good if those jobs are not there. Yes of cours it would be better, if they had jobs, but do you think that they are just goung to walk into a job. In the mean time they are put down to the Newstart lesser payment, something like $100 or so a week less. Which will be as good as survivig in poverty. Sad

what the hell would YOU know about employment and getting a job? Everyone elses seems able to do so.

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Macklin Advice To Single Parents - Find A Job. Reply #29 - Jan 1^st, 2013 at 6:50pm Tell that to all the long term unemployed idiot.
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