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Reply #45 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 1:23am
 
That is why we are keeping archives to hold you accountable for making it impossible for disadvantaged people to obtain stable secure safe employment...Your claims must be backed up with facts and reason... Smiley Smiley
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Reply #46 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 1:32am
 
You cant simply demand disadvantaged people find work, when it has been engineered such that there is no suitable, safe, secure work for them...you cant force them to work in conditions you yourself would not accept....and subject to rules designed to punish them for who they are... Smiley Smiley
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Reply #47 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 4:41am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 1:18am:
philperth2010 wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 12:56pm:
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Tighter restraints on the parenting payment will see around 80,000 single parents, mainly mothers, forced off their pension and moved on to the dole once their youngest child has turned eight, leaving the families up to $223 a fortnight worse off.


Why shouldn't parents go to work once the kids are all at school fulltime.....I see no valid reason why these people cannot work!!!

Huh Huh Huh



The difference is:

(1) The message came from Labor therefore you support it as a good idea

(2) If the same message comes from the LIBs - you will bag it as a bad idea


You cant talk. Wasnt I pointing this out to you in another thread? Yeah the whales . . .

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Reply #48 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 4:41am
 
So are there 80,000 jobs out there for these ppl?

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Reply #49 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 5:44am
 
john_g wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:43pm:
Macklin says that she could live on the dole?

Right then - go for it Jenny, see how long you can do it.


Another disgrace from Labor, and there's no doubt that that is just what she said.

Labor is NEVER getting my vote again. As a swing voter, my vote is of more importance than others, and they're not getting it.



Good one, the useless slag.

Not six months after Rachel Siewart proved that it CAN'T be done.

This pig-ignorant place-filler deserves the sack over that STUPID and offensive comment.

She's certainly shown that she should not have THIS portfolio.
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Reply #50 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 5:53am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 4:41am:
So are there 80,000 jobs out there for these ppl?

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No. There are NOT.

And this is NOT acknowledged or admitted, by either side.
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Reply #51 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 5:57am
 
Minister riles welfare groups

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FAMILIES Minister Jenny Macklin has angered welfare groups by claiming she could live on the $35-a-day Newstart allowance.     Huh

On a day when more than 80,000 single parents were shifted from the parenting payment to the lower Newstart allowance, leaving some up to $110 a week worse off, Ms Macklin also urged single parents to return to work, saying it would be ''better for the family'', and their children would have better role models if they were employed.

Visiting a Melbourne hospital to promote the government's Dad and Partner pay scheme, which also began on Tuesday, Ms Macklin was asked whether she could survive on the $246-a-week payment. She responded ''I could'', but the question and her answer were described as ''inaudible'' in a transcript of the press conference later issued by her office.

A spokeswoman for Ms Macklin said the exchange had not been deliberately omitted, but the transcript had been produced from an iPhone recording of an outdoor press conference.


As a cabinet minister, Ms Macklin earns $6321 a week, 25 times the rate of Newstart.

The cost of renting alone in her suburb of Ivanhoe is greater than the Newstart allowance, with the median rent for a one-bedroom flat in her suburb at $270 a week.     Sad

Australian Council of Social Service chief executive Cassandra Goldie said evidence to three parliamentary inquiries had shown the allowance had not increased in real terms in two decades, and as a result some recipients were forced to live in ''extreme poverty''.

''The minister should look at the evidence of people who are actually trying to do that,'' she said. ''The government talks about evidence-based policy, so we are urging her to look at the evidence.''     Wink

Kate Beaumont, the vice-president of the National Welfare Rights Network, said Ms Macklin's comments were surprising.

''As a key minister involved in securing the historic 2009 pension increase of $32 per week, she understands the needs of people doing it tough,'' she said.

Ms Beaumont said Ms Macklin's comments seemed at odds with those of Labor senators who in a committee report in November called for the allowance to be increased.

The calls by welfare groups for Newstart to be lifted have been echoed by others, including the Business Council of Australia, which has warned that the lack of an increase might be entrenching poverty.

In 2010, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said the payment was so low it might not be enough to enable a person to look for a job.     Shocked

The government has also faced heavy criticism for the changes that shift thousands of single parents from the parenting payment to the Newstart allowance when their youngest child turns eight.

While parents who started receiving the payment after July 2006 already face these conditions, until now those who were receiving the parenting payment before July 2006 were able to keep it until their youngest child turned 16. Ms Macklin said the changes were designed to ensure all parenting payment recipients were treated in the same way.

''What's important for people who are unemployed is that we do everything possible … to help people get into work, and that's what we'll be doing with these single parents as well,'' she said.

''The more people going back to work the better. It's better for the family, it's great to see mum and/or dad going … to work. Unfortunately we have far too many children growing up in families where nobody is working.''

But Dr Goldie said recipients of the parenting payment were already required to seek work, and about half of them were already doing some paid work.

''The only thing that's going to change for them is a significant cut in their income support, and we oppose putting any other parent on to a payment which everybody acknowledges is already far too low,'' she said.     Sad

''We're talking about households with children in them. Why would we do that?''

The change will have the greatest impact on parents who work part time, because parenting payment recipients are allowed to earn more than Newstart recipients before their payments are affected.

As a result of the change, a single parent who gets no income from work will be $115 worse off a fortnight, while those who earn $400 a week from work will see their income drop by $223 a fortnight.    

In August, Employment Minister Bill Shorten said he took the adequacy of the Newstart allowance ''very, very seriously'' and said it would be ''very, very tough'' to survive on the payment, but he did not commit to raising the allowance.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/minister-riles-welfare-groups-20130101-2c4ct.html#ixzz2Gks8N5VT
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Reply #52 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:02am
 
Macklin, who earns $903 a day, reckons she could live on the dole. She said this after moving 84,000 single mothers from a parenting payment to the dole, who now have to survive on just $35 a day. Those 84,000 single mothers now stand to lose about $230 per week. Her office then screwed up the release of the transcript of the interview, trying to edit out her comment that she could live off the dole, saying that a car engine made that portion of the interview "inaudible". Is she serious? What a fool!!! Even her own staff don't think she could live off the dole!!!
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Reply #53 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:05am
 
Macklin Challenged to live on the 'dole'.

Will she accept? My guess is no, she won't.

28 years ago, Stephen Lusher famously said the same thing.

Well, he couldn't, and that led directly to the last REAL-TERMS increase in the dole.

Fast-forward to earlier this year, and Rachel Siewart AGAIN proved that it can't be done.

THAT led to the Senate Enquiry and its Lib-driven refusal to raise the dole.

Now, this ignorant bint comes out with the SAME RUBBISH CLAIM!

You can bet that, if she accepts, she'll have access to her home, car, bank a/c, credit card etc.

Makes any result skewed against the u/e, who often have none of these.

At a MINIMUM, this should cost her the Ministry. It SHOULD cost her seat!
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Reply #54 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:07am
 
Kat wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 5:44am:
john_g wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:43pm:
Macklin says that she could live on the dole?

Right then - go for it Jenny, see how long you can do it.


Another disgrace from Labor, and there's no doubt that that is just what she said.

Labor is NEVER getting my vote again. As a swing voter, my vote is of more importance than others, and they're not getting it.



Good one, the useless slag.

Not six months after Rachel Siewart proved that it CAN'T be done.

This pig-ignorant place-filler deserves the sack over that STUPID and offensive comment.

She's certainly shown that she should not have THIS portfolio.



She should either do it or stand down.

If it had have been in Greece, she would have caused a riot. She's just lucky that Aussies are so lay-back.
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Reply #55 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:11am
 
Kat wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:05am:
Macklin Challenged to live on the 'dole'.

Will she accept? My guess is no, she won't.

28 years ago, Stephen Lusher famously said the same thing.

Well, he couldn't, and that led directly to the last REAL-TERMS increase in the dole.

Fast-forward to earlier this year, and Rachel Siewart AGAIN proved that it can't be done.

THAT led to the Senate Enquiry and its Lib-driven refusal to raise the dole.

Now, this ignorant bint comes out with the SAME RUBBISH CLAIM!

You can bet that, if she accepts, she'll have access to her home, car, bank a/c, credit card etc.

Makes any result skewed against the u/e, who often have none of these.

At a MINIMUM, this should cost her the Ministry. It SHOULD cost her seat!

If she accepts, which as you said she wouldnt, she should be made to start once she finds accomodation that fits her budget. Once she moves in, she has access to nothing but a centrelink debit card with the amount for the fortnights she is actively participating.

The only extra she should have is a minder/body guard.
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Reply #56 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:42am
 
john_g wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:43pm:
Macklin says that she could live on the dole?

Right then - go for it Jenny, see how long you can do it.

Another disgrace from Labor, and there's no doubt that that is just what she said.

Labor is NEVER getting my vote again. As a swing voter, my vote is of more importance than others, and they're not getting it.



I have had a few goes at trying this over the years - it is real tough to be unemployed. I would like to see her try.

She has made a goose of herself and managed to say a number of very offensive things.
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Reply #57 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 9:04am
 
I  believe these Government policies go even further and they may be deliberately trying to force the poor out of Australia by making both work and welfare unavailable to them, making this a crime against humanity according to my archives....
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Reply #58 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 10:05am
 
Kat wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 5:44am:
john_g wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:43pm:
Macklin says that she could live on the dole?

Right then - go for it Jenny, see how long you can do it.


Another disgrace from Labor, and there's no doubt that that is just what she said.

Labor is NEVER getting my vote again. As a swing voter, my vote is of more importance than others, and they're not getting it.



Good one, the useless slag.

Not six months after Rachel Siewart proved that it CAN'T be done.

This pig-ignorant place-filler deserves the sack over that STUPID and offensive comment.

She's certainly shown that she should not have THIS portfolio.


And the way that she stands up in Parliament in that awful and grating voice, pretending to stand up for families.

It's sickening and offensive in the extreme.

It's even worse than Bill Shorten saying that it was hard to live on $330,000 a year.

Labor seems full of these drones, and they can think twice about ever getting this swing voter's vote ever again.
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Reply #59 - Jan 2nd, 2013 at 10:10am
 
Dnarever wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:42am:
john_g wrote on Jan 1st, 2013 at 11:43pm:
Macklin says that she could live on the dole?

Right then - go for it Jenny, see how long you can do it.

Another disgrace from Labor, and there's no doubt that that is just what she said.

Labor is NEVER getting my vote again. As a swing voter, my vote is of more importance than others, and they're not getting it.



I have had a few goes at trying this over the years - it is real tough to be unemployed. I would like to see her try.

She has made a goose of herself and managed to say a number of very offensive things.


Luckily I have never faced unemployment, and can't complain about my salary.

She has made an absolute idiot of herself, you're correct, and I am sure that all of those families that she pretends to stand up for, are rightfully offended at these insulting remarks.

I somehow doubt that Labor, or the Greens and Coalition for that matter, have any plans to cut back on the ex-pollies pension.
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