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Reply #180 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:44pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:38pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:28pm:
Longweekend is a compulsive liar.


longloser defends ripoff house prices in australia because he has been giving so many people bad financial advice to buy at the top of the market when prices had peaked and now he is in denial that these people including his own family members have taken his advice and are now going to lose their arse !!

He could always blame labor of course because they were the main culprit in medaling in the housing market Wink


so once defeated in the substance of a debate you resort once more to ad hominen attacks. you are predictable beyond belief.


free financial advice is worth what you pay for it and yours is worth even less because it makes people lose money Sad
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Reply #181 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:47pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 2:29pm:
Bursting the Bubble on SBS Insight

check out Keen giving Saul Eslake a serve Cheesy LOL



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Bursting the Bubble

Will a slowing economy lower house prices in Australia?
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The Housing Industry Association says housing affordability is at a 24-year low. Yet economists are divided over whether Australia's troubled economy will work for or against those struggling to buy a home or maintain a mortgage.

Economist Steven Keen has claimed Australia is heading for the worst recession since the Great Depression, and predicts housing prices will drop by over 40 per cent.

The ANZ’s Saul Eslake warns this is a dangerous assumption, while economic journalist Ross Gittins believes we are in uncharted waters, with household debt at an all-time high.

Home owners mortgaged to the hilt, economists, housing and construction representatives, government and opposition meet on Insight to discuss who could benefit from a big economic dip.




Good video for a reality check Nail.

I hope Longloser watches it.
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Reply #182 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:48pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:38pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:28pm:
Longweekend is a compulsive liar.


longloser defends ripoff house prices in australia because he has been giving so many people bad financial advice to buy at the top of the market when prices had peaked and now he is in denial that these people including his own family members have taken his advice and are now going to lose their arse !!

He could always blame labor of course because they were the main culprit in medaling in the housing market Wink


so once defeated in the substance of a debate you resort once more to ad hominen attacks. you are predictable beyond belief.


free financial advice is worth what you pay for it and yours is worth even less because it makes people lose money Sad


yeah because i rceommended people buy a house many years ago and they hav made 100%+ on their investment. what have you don in that time? oh yes... paid rent on a single room.

im sure they are all envious of their $500K equity while you dont even own the doorknob on your room.

are you really THAT stupid?
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Reply #183 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:49pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:47pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 2:29pm:
Bursting the Bubble on SBS Insight

check out Keen giving Saul Eslake a serve Cheesy LOL



Quote:
Bursting the Bubble

Will a slowing economy lower house prices in Australia?
Add Your Comments

Currently 285 comments

The Housing Industry Association says housing affordability is at a 24-year low. Yet economists are divided over whether Australia's troubled economy will work for or against those struggling to buy a home or maintain a mortgage.

Economist Steven Keen has claimed Australia is heading for the worst recession since the Great Depression, and predicts housing prices will drop by over 40 per cent.

The ANZ’s Saul Eslake warns this is a dangerous assumption, while economic journalist Ross Gittins believes we are in uncharted waters, with household debt at an all-time high.

Home owners mortgaged to the hilt, economists, housing and construction representatives, government and opposition meet on Insight to discuss who could benefit from a big economic dip.




Good video for a reality check Nail.

I hope Longloser watches it.


congrats, gay-stalker. you actually posted on topic. I knew you could do it if you tried. You are wrong of course but nobody expects anything more from you.
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Reply #184 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:50pm
 
That poor guy was paying 9%.
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Reply #185 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:53pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:48pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:44pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:38pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:33pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:28pm:
Longweekend is a compulsive liar.


longloser defends ripoff house prices in australia because he has been giving so many people bad financial advice to buy at the top of the market when prices had peaked and now he is in denial that these people including his own family members have taken his advice and are now going to lose their arse !!

He could always blame labor of course because they were the main culprit in medaling in the housing market Wink


so once defeated in the substance of a debate you resort once more to ad hominen attacks. you are predictable beyond belief.


free financial advice is worth what you pay for it and yours is worth even less because it makes people lose money Sad


yeah because i rceommended people buy a house many years ago and they hav made 100%+ on their investment. what have you don in that time? oh yes... paid rent on a single room.

im sure they are all envious of their $500K equity while you dont even own the doorknob on your room.

are you really THAT stupid?


If you believed your own bullshit you would have bought property instead of running your own business, because why invest and work hard in a business when all you have to do is sell houses to each other at ever increasing prices !!

"are you really THAT stupid?"

touche Grin
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Reply #186 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:54pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:50pm:
That poor guy was paying 9%.


And he bought a joint for 450K and two years later could only offload it for $350K. Of course according to longloser that could never have happened in Australia because house prices only go up but it did happen !!
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Reply #187 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:59pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:54pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:50pm:
That poor guy was paying 9%.


And he bought a joint for 450K and two years later could only offload it for $350K. Of course according to longloser that could never have happened in Australia because house prices only go up but it did happen !!


well at least you dont have to worry, do you? you dont own a home and never will.  you will always be waiting for that wonderful (to you) 40% drop that the failed-prophet Keen predicts daily and yet never arrives.

the funniest thing is that even if it DID drop 40% you'd still be worse off than the rest of us. Most of us ahve made 100%+ in the last 10 years while you have made 0. even if it dropped 40% we'd still have 60% more than you. (yes I am aware the maths is a little dodgy bu the point is still there)

no matter what happens from this point, everybody will still be better off than you.

hows that make you feel, moron?
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Reply #188 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:36pm
 

longy said:

Most of us ahve made 100%+ in the last 10 years while you have made 0. even if it dropped 40% we'd still have 60% more than you.


You haven't really made anything until you sell it.

How do you know it won't sell for 50% less than what you paid for it, when the time comes to sell?
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Reply #189 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:40pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:36pm:
longy said:

Most of us ahve made 100%+ in the last 10 years while you have made 0. even if it dropped 40% we'd still have 60% more than you.


You haven't really made anything until you sell it.

How do you know it won't sell for 50% less than what you paid for it, when the time comes to sell?


You make zero on the house you live in unless you sell and move to a hole in the ground or die..
If your house is worth $50,000 and you sell and buy in the same market for a house of similar value its no different than if the same house is worth 10 times that.
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Reply #190 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:49pm
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:36pm:
longy said:

Most of us ahve made 100%+ in the last 10 years while you have made 0. even if it dropped 40% we'd still have 60% more than you.


You haven't really made anything until you sell it.

How do you know it won't sell for 50% less than what you paid for it, when the time comes to sell?


the other scam is that the banks convince you that your house is a bank and you can keep borrowing against it to buy whatever you want Grin

longloser the great property tycoon who only ever bought one house and hasn't sold any Grin
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Reply #191 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:52pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:59pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:54pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:50pm:
That poor guy was paying 9%.


And he bought a joint for 450K and two years later could only offload it for $350K. Of course according to longloser that could never have happened in Australia because house prices only go up but it did happen !!


well at least you dont have to worry, do you? you dont own a home and never will.  you will always be waiting for that wonderful (to you) 40% drop that the failed-prophet Keen predicts daily and yet never arrives.

the funniest thing is that even if it DID drop 40% you'd still be worse off than the rest of us. Most of us ahve made 100%+ in the last 10 years while you have made 0. even if it dropped 40% we'd still have 60% more than you. (yes I am aware the maths is a little dodgy bu the point is still there)

no matter what happens from this point, everybody will still be better off than you.

hows that make you feel, moron?


you made 100% on paper but the nation is in debt to the tune of 1.3 trillion Sad Does that sound like a good deal ??
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Reply #192 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:55pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:40pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:36pm:
longy said:

Most of us ahve made 100%+ in the last 10 years while you have made 0. even if it dropped 40% we'd still have 60% more than you.


You haven't really made anything until you sell it.

How do you know it won't sell for 50% less than what you paid for it, when the time comes to sell?


You make zero on the house you live in unless you sell and move to a hole in the ground or die..
If your house is worth $50,000 and you sell and buy in the same market for a house of similar value its no different than if the same house is worth 10 times that.


there in lies the rub. If he sold it he'd have to buy another overpriced dump to live in and wouldn't be a step further Sad
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Reply #193 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 5:54pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:59pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:54pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:50pm:
That poor guy was paying 9%.


And he bought a joint for 450K and two years later could only offload it for $350K. Of course according to longloser that could never have happened in Australia because house prices only go up but it did happen !!


well at least you dont have to worry, do you? you dont own a home and never will.  you will always be waiting for that wonderful (to you) 40% drop that the failed-prophet Keen predicts daily and yet never arrives.

the funniest thing is that even if it DID drop 40% you'd still be worse off than the rest of us. Most of us ahve made 100%+ in the last 10 years while you have made 0. even if it dropped 40% we'd still have 60% more than you. (yes I am aware the maths is a little dodgy bu the point is still there)

no matter what happens from this point, everybody will still be better off than you.

hows that make you feel, moron?


Longy,
You certainly have 3 major problems & probably more, BUT perhaps redeeming feature.

Your most significant problems are the 3 R's, Reading, wRighting & aRithmetic.

Reading
It's apparent that, you a very light on for reading, no doubt preferring your OWN THOUGHTS.

wRiting/wRighting
Your wRighting has 2 major issues -
1) Your spelling is terrible, to the point where it is sometimes difficult to understand what you are trying to say.
2) Your dribble is often Right of Tony Abbottabad & sometimes Right of Genghis Ghan.

aRithmetic
But, by far, Figures are definitely NOT you, BUT at least in some of your more lucid moments, you MAY nearly be aware of your short comings.

So, just to confirm, IF you start with a $1,000,000 house purchase & it goes up 100% in 10 years, that means you have a $1,000,000 profit and you averaged a 10% gain each year. That is an average, NOT compound, BUT neverthe less, a tidy return!

Now, IF at 10 years & 1 day, things turn ugly & you sell at a 40% to what you could have got yesterday, then you will sell for $1,200,00, thus giving you an effective profit of $200,000 over the 10 years & 1 day AND that is an average gain of a basic 2% each year. 

Of course, all of that is before Expenses, such as R/E Agents Commissions & interest on repayments, are considered, so you would be lucky to break even?

And, of course, your redeeming feature, is that your so likeable, as you treat everyone in a fair & friendly manner???

Ya'll have a nice day now, ya hear?
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Reply #194 - Jan 4th, 2013 at 6:12pm
 
Hi Perceptions,
he can be forgiven on my thread here:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1356646946/57#57
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