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Re: Well done labor, you know how to back + be a loser
Reply #15 - Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 11:12am

MOTR wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 10:27am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 10:09am:

How does Chinas emissions growth look MOTR?

Looking alright for you is it?

It's very concerning. But as we can see we need to develop a critical mass to get this ball really rolling. It's inevitable, but will it be too late. If we vote down our carbon tax we'll be working against this critical mass. Just as progs and Maqqa are using Russia as a reason to delay action in Australia, other similar minded people will use our actions to delay action in their own country.

Vested interests understand this. That's why Australia is of interests to the Heartland Institute. It's why Heartland Institute helps fund our anti carbon price lobby.

http://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/follow-the-money-heartland-in...

ah... 'vested interests'. a convenient term used by well-funded climate hysterics to lamblast their opponents who are usually not funded at all and when they are are suddenly evil.

the entire ACC religion is a 'vested interest'.

yay critical thinking...

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Reply #16 - Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 9:45pm

This could be directed toward Rudd/Gillard/labor in almost all ways

Nigel Lawson Wins Climate Policy Bet

Quote:

“Oliver Letwin is one of the nicest people in politics, and one of the cleverest. It is, however, disconcerting that UK climate change policy - which makes no conceivable sense in the absence of a binding global agreement – has been based on the advice of someone so totally divorced from any understanding of practical realities.”

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Lord Lawson comments:

“I made the bet because I knew I would win. It has always been blindingly obvious that the positions of Europe, the United States and China were much too far apart for a truly global successor to Kyoto to be negotiable.”

http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=c920274f2a364603849bbb505&id=b0d794e9d8&e=96...

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Reply #17 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:09am

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 9:23am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 9:20am:

So when does this labor government believe they will start influencing other countries with their carbon tax lie.

please show me a quote where labor has ever said it wanted to influence other countries

? making things up again tweedle dum?

Example 1

Quote:

30th May 2007 - Kevin Rudd
Speech ANNUAL FRASER LECTURE, BELCONNEN LABOR CLUB, CANBERRA

Labor’s Framework for Climate Change
This is why Labor has developed a comprehensive framework to tackle climate change. This is a framework for government – it shows that we are serious about climate change and serious about the business of government.

Labor’s framework for climate change recognises that dealing with climate change is not easy – it requires strategies, plans and programs based on practical action. Labor’s Framework for Climate Change identifies ten key areas for action.

First, restore Australia’s international leadership on climate change. Australia used to be a leader on international environmental diplomacy – today we are seen as a spoiler.

We must immediately ratify the Kyoto Protocol to show we are serious and want to help forge a global solution. It is why we will establish a diplomatic initiative with China.

Example 2

Quote:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/12/04/1196530678978.html?page=fullpage
I can unite world on climate, says Rudd
December 5, 2007

The Climate Change Minister, Penny Wong, will play the key role as "principal negotiator" in Mr Rudd's vision for Australia as the world's new climate change broker, further underscoring her rapid rise in the new government.

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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MOTR

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Re: Well done labor, you know how to back + be a loser
Reply #18 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:37am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 11:12am:

MOTR wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 10:27am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 10:09am:

How does Chinas emissions growth look MOTR?

Looking alright for you is it?

It's very concerning. But as we can see we need to develop a critical mass to get this ball really rolling. It's inevitable, but will it be too late. If we vote down our carbon tax we'll be working against this critical mass. Just as progs and Maqqa are using Russia as a reason to delay action in Australia, other similar minded people will use our actions to delay action in their own country.

Vested interests understand this. That's why Australia is of interests to the Heartland Institute. It's why Heartland Institute helps fund our anti carbon price lobby.

http://watchingthedeniers.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/follow-the-money-heartland-in...

ah... 'vested interests'. a convenient term used by well-funded climate hysterics to lamblast their opponents who are usually not funded at all and when they are are suddenly evil.

the entire ACC religion is a 'vested interest'.

yay critical thinking...

goldie, you are one of the most naive people I've ever come across. Are you going to tell me you are completely oblivious to the influence of the fossil fuel lobby. They should cryogenically preserve you so that future generation can stare in wonder at your dodo like innocence. It wouldn't surprise me if you still believe there is no link between smoking and cancer.

At least progs and Maqqa seem to know that are being disingenuous.

How's that for critical thinking, sport. Wink

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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Well done labor, you know how to back + be a loser Reply #19 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:47am This industry has done more for production and research into cleaner energy supply than all of the Gvernment actions added together. Dont pander to ill-informed hysteria.
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: Well done labor, you know how to back + be a loser Reply #20 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:51am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:47am: This industry has done more for production and research into cleaner energy supply than all of the Gvernment actions added together. Dont pander to ill-informed hysteria. Cleaner is a relative term, Andrei.
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Re: Well done labor, you know how to back + be a loser
Reply #21 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 7:00am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:47am:

This industry has done more for production and research into cleaner energy supply than all of the Gvernment actions added together.

Dont pander to ill-informed hysteria.

quite true andrei, the emissions from the latest volvo trucks are cleaner to breathe than the air in mexico city.

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Reply #22 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 7:28am

MOTR wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 9:29am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 9:23am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 9:20am:

So when does this labor government believe they will start influencing other countries with their carbon tax lie.

please show me a quote where labor has ever said it wanted to influence other countries? making things up again tweedle dum?

Now I'm confused. I thought Maqqa was tweedle dum.

Na..your thinking of tweedle dumber

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Go the Bunnies

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Reply #23 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 7:31am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 7:00am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:47am:

This industry has done more for production and research into cleaner energy supply than all of the Gvernment actions added together.

Dont pander to ill-informed hysteria.

quite true andrei, the emissions from the latest volvo trucks are cleaner to breathe than the air in mexico city.

So the truck engines in volvo trucks in Mexico city actually cleans the air Grin

Wow..you'll have to seal up your house and run the exhaust from one of these trucks into your house and let us know how that works out for you Cheesy

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Re: Well done labor, you know how to back + be a loser
Reply #24 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:08pm

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:09am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 9:23am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 9:20am:

So when does this labor government believe they will start influencing other countries with their carbon tax lie.

please show me a quote where labor has ever said it wanted to influence other countries

? making things up again tweedle dum?

Example 1

Quote:

30th May 2007 - Kevin Rudd
Speech ANNUAL FRASER LECTURE, BELCONNEN LABOR CLUB, CANBERRA

Labor’s Framework for Climate Change
This is why Labor has developed a comprehensive framework to tackle climate change. This is a framework for government – it shows that we are serious about climate change and serious about the business of government.

Labor’s framework for climate change recognises that dealing with climate change is not easy – it requires strategies, plans and programs based on practical action. Labor’s Framework for Climate Change identifies ten key areas for action.

First, restore Australia’s international leadership on climate change. Australia used to be a leader on international environmental diplomacy – today we are seen as a spoiler.

We must immediately ratify the Kyoto Protocol to show we are serious and want to help forge a global solution. It is why we will establish a diplomatic initiative with China.

Example 2

Quote:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/12/04/1196530678978.html?page=fullpage
I can unite world on climate, says Rudd
December 5, 2007

The Climate Change Minister, Penny Wong, will play the key role as "principal negotiator" in Mr Rudd's vision for Australia as the world's new climate change broker, further underscoring her rapid rise in the new government.

I see no reference on trying to influence anyone ... did you forget your glasses Gumpy ????

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Well done labor, you know how to back + be a loser
Reply #25 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:33pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:08pm:

Maqqa wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:09am:

John Smith wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 9:23am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 9:20am:

So when does this labor government believe they will start influencing other countries with their carbon tax lie.

please show me a quote where labor has ever said it wanted to influence other countries

? making things up again tweedle dum?

Example 1

Quote:

30th May 2007 - Kevin Rudd
Speech ANNUAL FRASER LECTURE, BELCONNEN LABOR CLUB, CANBERRA

Labor’s Framework for Climate Change
This is why Labor has developed a comprehensive framework to tackle climate change. This is a framework for government – it shows that we are serious about climate change and serious about the business of government.

Labor’s framework for climate change recognises that dealing with climate change is not easy – it requires strategies, plans and programs based on practical action. Labor’s Framework for Climate Change identifies ten key areas for action.

First, restore Australia’s international leadership on climate change. Australia used to be a leader on international environmental diplomacy – today we are seen as a spoiler.

We must immediately ratify the Kyoto Protocol to show we are serious and want to help forge a global solution. It is why we will establish a diplomatic initiative with China.

Example 2

Quote:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/12/04/1196530678978.html?page=fullpage
I can unite world on climate, says Rudd
December 5, 2007

The Climate Change Minister, Penny Wong, will play the key role as "principal negotiator" in Mr Rudd's vision for Australia as the world's new climate change broker, further underscoring her rapid rise in the new government.

I see no reference on trying to influence anyone ... did you forget your glasses Gumpy ????

I already put up the direct quote from pissant himself.

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