Quote:If you're talking about the poll, it shows that most people think that compulsary voting makes the system less democratic or or makes no difference to democracy.
Yes Muso that is what I meant by undermining democracy.
Quote:Yes it is.
Can you explain how? Is this where you attempt to argue that allowing minorities to dictate the outcomes is somehow essential for democracy to function?
Quote:Because the end result is either Labor or Liberal & they are both useless.
That is not a rational argument Bobby. You don't have to consider either useful to vote.
Quote:Its that all of the choices are bad and it doesnt matter which one you pick you get one of them.
Likewise SOB, you do not need to regard any of the choices as good in order to vote. There is no 'good' and 'bad' box.
Quote:It's easily countered by the argument that you're forcing people to go through the act of voting, and that includes people who will either choose a candidate at random or vote informal just to escape a fine.
How does voting informally 'counter' the argument?
Quote:It's hardly adding any additional rational element to the table.
I thought that bit was obvious - it undermines democracy by allowing minorities to dictate the outcome.
Quote:WHo made that argument? Whose argument are you countering here? I may be wrong, but nobody has made the argument that it is onerous as far as I am aware. Did somebody here say "damn, it's such a burden having to vote?" and I missed it?
Yes. All the people who claim there are no 'good' choices are basically saying that choosing between options is too onerous unless one is clearly better than the others. They just no better than to phrase it as "I am too lazy to make the choice."
Quote:Again, it's a non sequitor. Most people would not consider the issue of compulsory voting to be central to any measure of being "better" or "worse". Would you? I certainly wouldn't.
Muso you have used the argument about other countries plenty of times.
Quote:You haven't actually made one, constantly repeating a latin phrase in an incorrect context isn't an argument.
Bigol, if your argument falls apart on logic, it is sufficient to merely point this out. If you can't be bothered putting together a rational argument it is a bit rich to demand others put together a more meaningful counterargument.
Quote:BTW, this is a reply to longy, so I think bugger off may be an appropriate reply to you post there FD
If you post something stupid on this forum, people are going to point it out, even if you addressed it to someone else.
Quote:Make your argument clearly concisely and without all the 'tricky latin' stuff
You mean like I did in the opening post? BTW, I also posted a link to an article with plain English descriptions of your logical fallacies.
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