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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49016 At my desk.	Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD Reply #60 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:43pm Quote: He doesn't even bother to prove any of his statements with examples from any of the first world democracies that suffer from this affliction. Perhaps even Barnaby realises that argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.
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Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD
Reply #61 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:47pm

freediver wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:43pm:

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He doesn't even bother to prove any of his statements with examples from any of the first world democracies that suffer from this affliction.

Perhaps even Barnaby realises that argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

Or he could just be an idiot that doesn't know what the bugger he is talking about.

I'm thinking it's the latter

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD Reply #62 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 4:51pm aquascoot wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 11:49am: great man campbell. freeing up one extra saturday for me to go fishing gee, i love that bloke. you will too when he's in the lodge. PEOPLE DIED FOR DEMOCRACY AND THIS THIEF WANTS TO TAKE IT AWAY! HE WILL NEVER LIVE THIS DOWN- MARK MY WORDS!
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Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD
Reply #63 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 4:54pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:47pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:43pm:

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He doesn't even bother to prove any of his statements with examples from any of the first world democracies that suffer from this affliction.

Perhaps even Barnaby realises that argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

Or he could just be an idiot that doesn't know what the bugger he is talking about.

I'm thinking it's the latter

I actually agree ... he is an idiot ... but not just this time. . he is always an idiot. . even when he spewing out the liberal mantra .... you just think he's an idiot on this particular issue because you don't like the issue

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Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD
Reply #64 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 5:02pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 4:54pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:47pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 1:43pm:

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He doesn't even bother to prove any of his statements with examples from any of the first world democracies that suffer from this affliction.

Perhaps even Barnaby realises that argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

Or he could just be an idiot that doesn't know what the bugger he is talking about.

I'm thinking it's the latter

I actually agree ... he is an idiot ... but not just this time. . he is always an idiot. . even when he spewing out the liberal mantra .... you just think he's an idiot on this particular issue because you don't like the issue

He is always an idiot, and agrees with forcing people to vote.

I agree that Australia should be a first world democracy with codified human rights, including the right to vote.

If the political parties miss out of a few votes then welcome to a a true democracy, just like they have in nearly every other first world country.

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Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD
Reply #65 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 5:15pm

freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 2:54pm:

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Unless voting is completely optional then any claim to be called a democracy is a farce.

Oh look, another person who can't tell the difference between democracy and freedom.

LOL, HADRIAN GOT STUNG LIKE NO LIBERAL VOTER EVER GOT STUNG BEFORE!

GO REPACK THE CRACK PIPE HADRIAN YA LOSER!

Cheesy

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Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD
Reply #66 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 5:20pm

freediver wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 1:04pm:

Peter Freedman wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2013 at 12:23pm:

Newman is well aware that Labor voters are hard workers with families and often work on polling days, making voting a real effort.

Lib voters spend their days beside the swimming pool drinking dry martinis and it is no problem to ask the chauffeur to get the Rolls out of the garage and run them down to the polling booth.

That is a very interesting point Peter, one that may well sink this legislation.

The more pertinent point being of course that lib voters are more tryhard business like and know the golden rule of buiness is just being there using your gob!

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Reply #67 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 5:59pm

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

It is not compulsory in any other Western country - not the US or Canada or Britain or, across the ditch, in New Zealand. Why are adult Australians treated like children?

It is not compulsory in any other Western country

I think you will find that actually it is in about 35 of them.

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Reply #68 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:11pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 5:59pm:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

It is not compulsory in any other Western country - not the US or Canada or Britain or, across the ditch, in New Zealand. Why are adult Australians treated like children?

It is not compulsory in any other Western country

I think you will find that actually it is in about 35 of them.

Care to provide some sort of evidence for that statement.

here is a start, Luxembourg and Belgium, only 33 to go

Good luck with that

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Reply #69 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:52pm

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:11pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 5:59pm:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

It is not compulsory in any other Western country - not the US or Canada or Britain or, across the ditch, in New Zealand. Why are adult Australians treated like children?

It is not compulsory in any other Western country

I think you will find that actually it is in about 35 of them.

Care to provide some sort of evidence for that statement.

here is a start, Luxembourg and Belgium, only 33 to go

Good luck with that

It has been posted many times - go look it up and correct me if my memory is incorrect.

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Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD
Reply #70 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 7:11pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

No you don't.

Your voting system is crap to be honest.

compared the US system which is corrupt? where a returning officer can actually say that the results seem clear already so we wont count absentee or postal votes? a system where votes are sometimes counted in secret by represtentatives of a single party?

i'll take ours any day.

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Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD
Reply #71 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 7:15pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:24am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

It is not compulsory in any other Western country - not the US or Canada or Britain or, across the ditch, in New Zealand. Why are adult Australians treated like children?

Australia is probably one of the most nanny state countries I have ever been in.

Don't do this, don't do that.
Ooooh you can't bet online in-game, that's illegal.
You must vote or we fine you.
3kmhr over a low speed limit, points on license and fine.

Fking joke country Australia is a lot of the time.

that's why we are the favoured place on the planet to live. perhaps most people don't favour money over... everything. you sold your soul for money and didn't even get a particularly good price for it.

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Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD
Reply #72 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 7:42pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:24am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

It is not compulsory in any other Western country - not the US or Canada or Britain or, across the ditch, in New Zealand. Why are adult Australians treated like children?

Australia is probably one of the most nanny state countries I have ever been in.

Don't do this, don't do that.
Ooooh you can't bet online in-game, that's illegal.
You must vote or we fine you.
3kmhr over a low speed limit, points on license and fine.

Fking joke country Australia is a lot of the time.

It is you thats the joke .... votes in ... read it and weap

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/lifestyle/article/-/15763961/lucky-to-be-...

where is the US on that list? Or Britain for that matter? They are even worse ...

there's a sucker born every day .

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rabbitoh07 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2783 Gender:	Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD Reply #73 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:31pm Cambell is on a winner. First - scrap compulsory voting. Next - scrap voting. Then Geoff Seeney can rule us in the way that Joh meant it. And we will all be happy. Don't you worry about that.
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Re: Campbell Newman to scrap compulsory voting in QLD
Reply #74 - Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:32pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:24am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 9:03am:

It is not compulsory in any other Western country - not the US or Canada or Britain or, across the ditch, in New Zealand. Why are adult Australians treated like children?

Australia is probably one of the most nanny state countries I have ever been in.

Don't do this, don't do that.
Ooooh you can't bet online in-game, that's illegal.
You must vote or we fine you.
3kmhr over a low speed limit, points on license and fine.

Fking joke country Australia is a lot of the time.

Yes. You are absolutely right.

Shall I email you the Qantas departures timetable?

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