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Re: Global cooling
Reply #150 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:43pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:27pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:24pm:
Gold_medal,
Quote:
I am sure the concept of a person having multiple skills and abilities amazes you but there are quite a lot of us out there. Yes, I have written and published one book (non-fiction science) and failed to publish a fiction novel. I am also a biblical expert (esp compared to you dunderheads) and am currently working on a paper I hope will be published but will form the basis of my next book. I also hope to put together some presentations on my work for the US market perhaps in 2014/15.

its not that rare you know. I don't have my PhD and I don't think working on it will gain me anything. That said, if my current research is deemed valuable I may in the future take that route for my own benefit.


Did you all hear that?

Longweekend is an intellectual.  Smiley


No, that not it at all!

Longy meant to say, he is an idiot, BUT he just misspelt the word?




He's always boasting about achievements which can never be proven on an anonymous forum.
I could say that I was an astronaut & went to the Moon & who could deny it?


you sound like an idiot, act like and idiot and post like an idiot. That is why no one believes you even went to university except as a gardener. Your posts would reflect your education if you had actually had one.


Longweekend,
You are guilty of abuse & should be reported.

However - I forgive you as I have attained a higher spiritual awareness since the 21.12.12.

this is in accordance with the divine plan.

namaste.
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Re: Global cooling
Reply #151 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:48pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:27pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:24pm:
Gold_medal,
Quote:
I am sure the concept of a person having multiple skills and abilities amazes you but there are quite a lot of us out there. Yes, I have written and published one book (non-fiction science) and failed to publish a fiction novel. I am also a biblical expert (esp compared to you dunderheads) and am currently working on a paper I hope will be published but will form the basis of my next book. I also hope to put together some presentations on my work for the US market perhaps in 2014/15.

its not that rare you know. I don't have my PhD and I don't think working on it will gain me anything. That said, if my current research is deemed valuable I may in the future take that route for my own benefit.


Did you all hear that?

Longweekend is an intellectual.  Smiley


No, that not it at all!

Longy meant to say, he is an idiot, BUT he just misspelt the word?




He's always boasting about achievements which can never be proven on an anonymous forum.
I could say that I was an astronaut & went to the Moon & who could deny it?


you sound like an idiot, act like and idiot and post like an idiot. That is why no one believes you even went to university except as a gardener. Your posts would reflect your education if you had actually had one.


It is indeed a pity, that your standard debating tactic of 1st resort, is not to present facts to support your notion/idea, BUT it is the use of personal attack on other members.


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Re: Global cooling
Reply #152 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:43pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:27pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:24pm:
Gold_medal,
Quote:
I am sure the concept of a person having multiple skills and abilities amazes you but there are quite a lot of us out there. Yes, I have written and published one book (non-fiction science) and failed to publish a fiction novel. I am also a biblical expert (esp compared to you dunderheads) and am currently working on a paper I hope will be published but will form the basis of my next book. I also hope to put together some presentations on my work for the US market perhaps in 2014/15.

its not that rare you know. I don't have my PhD and I don't think working on it will gain me anything. That said, if my current research is deemed valuable I may in the future take that route for my own benefit.


Did you all hear that?

Longweekend is an intellectual.  Smiley


No, that not it at all!

Longy meant to say, he is an idiot, BUT he just misspelt the word?




He's always boasting about achievements which can never be proven on an anonymous forum.
I could say that I was an astronaut & went to the Moon & who could deny it?


you sound like an idiot, act like and idiot and post like an idiot. That is why no one believes you even went to university except as a gardener. Your posts would reflect your education if you had actually had one.


Longweekend,
You are guilty of abuse & should be reported.

However - I forgive you as I have attained a higher spiritual awareness since the 21.12.12.

this is in accordance with the divine plan.

namaste.


Why forgive, he is simply a DH & doesn't deserve anything, except a kick in the backside!
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Re: Global cooling
Reply #153 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:52pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:43pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:27pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:24pm:
Gold_medal,
Quote:
I am sure the concept of a person having multiple skills and abilities amazes you but there are quite a lot of us out there. Yes, I have written and published one book (non-fiction science) and failed to publish a fiction novel. I am also a biblical expert (esp compared to you dunderheads) and am currently working on a paper I hope will be published but will form the basis of my next book. I also hope to put together some presentations on my work for the US market perhaps in 2014/15.

its not that rare you know. I don't have my PhD and I don't think working on it will gain me anything. That said, if my current research is deemed valuable I may in the future take that route for my own benefit.


Did you all hear that?

Longweekend is an intellectual.  Smiley


No, that not it at all!

Longy meant to say, he is an idiot, BUT he just misspelt the word?




He's always boasting about achievements which can never be proven on an anonymous forum.
I could say that I was an astronaut & went to the Moon & who could deny it?


you sound like an idiot, act like and idiot and post like an idiot. That is why no one believes you even went to university except as a gardener. Your posts would reflect your education if you had actually had one.


Longweekend,
You are guilty of abuse & should be reported.

However - I forgive you as I have attained a higher spiritual awareness since the 21.12.12.

this is in accordance with the divine plan.

namaste.


Why forgive, he is simply a DH & doesn't deserve anything, except a kick in the backside!



I am copying master Light who shows his ascendancy into the new spiritual realm
by forgiving everyone no matter what they do or say.
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Re: Global cooling
Reply #154 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 8:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:52pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:50pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:43pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:34pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:27pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 6:05pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:24pm:
Gold_medal,
Quote:
I am sure the concept of a person having multiple skills and abilities amazes you but there are quite a lot of us out there. Yes, I have written and published one book (non-fiction science) and failed to publish a fiction novel. I am also a biblical expert (esp compared to you dunderheads) and am currently working on a paper I hope will be published but will form the basis of my next book. I also hope to put together some presentations on my work for the US market perhaps in 2014/15.

its not that rare you know. I don't have my PhD and I don't think working on it will gain me anything. That said, if my current research is deemed valuable I may in the future take that route for my own benefit.


Did you all hear that?

Longweekend is an intellectual.  Smiley


No, that not it at all!

Longy meant to say, he is an idiot, BUT he just misspelt the word?




He's always boasting about achievements which can never be proven on an anonymous forum.
I could say that I was an astronaut & went to the Moon & who could deny it?


you sound like an idiot, act like and idiot and post like an idiot. That is why no one believes you even went to university except as a gardener. Your posts would reflect your education if you had actually had one.


Longweekend,
You are guilty of abuse & should be reported.

However - I forgive you as I have attained a higher spiritual awareness since the 21.12.12.

this is in accordance with the divine plan.

namaste.


Why forgive, he is simply a DH & doesn't deserve anything, except a kick in the backside!



I am copying master Light who shows his ascendancy into the new spiritual realm
by forgiving everyone no matter what they do or say.


Yes, I know, BUT there are rules & there are exceptions AND then there are Dick Heads like Longy, who simply behaves like a pain in the arse, which is what he is AND he deserves to be treated, the way he treats others
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Re: Global cooling
Reply #155 - Jan 6th, 2013 at 10:34pm
 
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Yes, I know, BUT there are rules & there are exceptions AND then there are Dick Heads like Longy, who simply behaves like a pain in the arse, which is what he is AND he deserves to be treated, the way he treats others.


Hi Perceptions,
I agree.
You could always submit your charges to my thread on Longweekend's forgiveness:


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1356646946/64#64


He has been put on trial but is already pre-forgiven by me.

I'll add it for you.
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Re: Global cooling
Reply #156 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:11am
 
51.1 degrees
in the anthropogenic climate change ravaged
Victoria in January 1906


...

Thanks to Steve Goddard
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/january-1906-124-degrees-in-victor...
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Reply #157 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:10am
 
We can be disingenuous about it and look for one off evidence of extreme weather, or we can be scientific about it and look for patterns in our climate.

I'll leave it you to work out what progs, sorry Mr. Goddard, is doing. 

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"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."
 
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Reply #158 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:29am
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 12:17pm:
MOTR wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 12:06pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 9:09am:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 7:52am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5th, 2013 at 8:44pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 5th, 2013 at 7:49pm:
Get a load of this 1903 athropogenic climate change


athropogenic climate change was rife in those days, so was co2

Temps from 44 degrees right up to 50.5 degrees (in Goodooga) in 1903

http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/screenhunter_376-jan-04-19-38.j...

Thanks to Steve Goddard
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/110-years-ago-today-123-degrees-in...

Wonder if BOM cleaned these records out

Goodooga 50.5 degrees
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&cp=6&gs_id=u...

Mount Drysdale 50 degrees
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&q=mount+drysdale&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf...

Yes.  THere have been very hot weather events in the past.

Is there a point to this?


not just hot - HOTTER. a lot hotter. but just like the MWP you simply ignore it and say it didnt happen

Please provide evidence to support your statement:

"actually glaciers have stopped recending,"

or apologise for trying to lie to the forum.

Why do you think anyone will take you seriously when you get caught red-handed telling lies - and then run away when asked to explain yourself?


C'mon goodie. Are you making these things up or do you just uncritically accept what you read on the net?


oh how convenient.. u seem to have missed all the questions asked of yousSo here is that list again that you seems to think so unlikely to have published climate papers

Claude Allegre, former director of the Institute for the Study of the Earth, University of Paris;
J. Scott Armstrong, cofounder of the Journal of Forecasting and the International Journal of Forecasting;
Jan Breslow, head of the Laboratory of Biochemical Genetics and Metabolism, Rockefeller University;
Roger Cohen, fellow, American Physical Society;
Edward David, member, National Academy of Engineering and National Academy of Sciences;
William Happer, professor of physics, Princeton;
Michael Kelly, professor of technology, University of Cambridge, U.K.;
William Kininmonth, former head of climate research at the Australian Bureau of Meteorology;
Richard Lindzen, professor of atmospheric sciences, MIT;
James McGrath, professor of chemistry, Virginia Technical University;
Rodney Nichols, former president and CEO of the New York Academy of Sciences;
Burt Rutan, aerospace engineer, designer of Voyager and SpaceShipOne;
Harrison H. Schmitt, Apollo 17 astronaut and former U.S. senator;
Nir Shaviv, professor of astrophysics, Hebrew University, Jerusalem;
Henk Tennekes, former director, Royal Dutch Meteorological Service;
Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists, Geneva.

now tell me again why this rather prestigious group's opinion is worthless


goldie, we all miss questions from time to time. We all miss posts from time to time. However, part of the reason most of us post here is to answer challenges. Most of us attempt to answer direct questions.

As for your diversionary question, I'm fully aware there are those who do not believe there is enough evidence to support AGW. Of those who work specifically in the field of climatology, their numbers are very few indeed compared to their peers. I'm always drawn to their arguments and the science that supports their conclusions.

What is the specific evidence you can link to these particular scientists.

Now, goldie, tell us why you are claiming glaciers have stopped receding. Do you have any specific evidence or did you make it up. If you were mistaken how about an apology and an insight into the cause of your confusion. Perhaps the source that gave you this particular bit of information should be more critically read next time round.
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Re: Global cooling
Reply #159 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 7:06am
 
MOTR wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:29am:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 12:17pm:
MOTR wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 12:06pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 9:09am:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 7:52am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5th, 2013 at 8:44pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 5th, 2013 at 7:49pm:
Get a load of this 1903 athropogenic climate change


athropogenic climate change was rife in those days, so was co2

Temps from 44 degrees right up to 50.5 degrees (in Goodooga) in 1903

http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/screenhunter_376-jan-04-19-38.j...

Thanks to Steve Goddard
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/01/05/110-years-ago-today-123-degrees-in...

Wonder if BOM cleaned these records out

Goodooga 50.5 degrees
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&cp=6&gs_id=u...

Mount Drysdale 50 degrees
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?hl=en&q=mount+drysdale&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf...

Yes.  THere have been very hot weather events in the past.

Is there a point to this?


not just hot - HOTTER. a lot hotter. but just like the MWP you simply ignore it and say it didnt happen

Please provide evidence to support your statement:

"actually glaciers have stopped recending,"

or apologise for trying to lie to the forum.

Why do you think anyone will take you seriously when you get caught red-handed telling lies - and then run away when asked to explain yourself?


C'mon goodie. Are you making these things up or do you just uncritically accept what you read on the net?


oh how convenient.. u seem to have missed all the questions asked of yousSo here is that list again that you seems to think so unlikely to have published climate papers

Claude Allegre, former director of the Institute for the Study of the Earth, University of Paris;
J. Scott Armstrong, cofounder of the Journal of Forecasting and the International Journal of Forecasting;
Jan Breslow, head of the Laboratory of Biochemical Genetics and Metabolism, Rockefeller University;
Roger Cohen, fellow, American Physical Society;
Edward David, member, National Academy of Engineering and National Academy of Sciences;
William Happer, professor of physics, Princeton;
Michael Kelly, professor of technology, University of Cambridge, U.K.;
William Kininmonth, former head of climate research at the Australian Bureau of Meteorology;
Richard Lindzen, professor of atmospheric sciences, MIT;
James McGrath, professor of chemistry, Virginia Technical University;
Rodney Nichols, former president and CEO of the New York Academy of Sciences;
Burt Rutan, aerospace engineer, designer of Voyager and SpaceShipOne;
Harrison H. Schmitt, Apollo 17 astronaut and former U.S. senator;
Nir Shaviv, professor of astrophysics, Hebrew University, Jerusalem;
Henk Tennekes, former director, Royal Dutch Meteorological Service;
Antonio Zichichi, president of the World Federation of Scientists, Geneva.

now tell me again why this rather prestigious group's opinion is worthless


goldie, we all miss questions from time to time. We all miss posts from time to time. However, part of the reason most of us post here is to answer challenges. Most of us attempt to answer direct questions.

As for your diversionary question, I'm fully aware there are those who do not believe there is enough evidence to support AGW. Of those who work specifically in the field of climatology, their numbers are very few indeed compared to their peers. I'm always drawn to their arguments and the science that supports their conclusions.

What is the specific evidence you can link to these particular scientists.

Now, goldie, tell us why you are claiming glaciers have stopped receding. Do you have any specific evidence or did you make it up. If you were mistaken how about an apology and an insight into the cause of your confusion. Perhaps the source that gave you this particular bit of information should be more critically read next time round.


so in short, you are rejecting the comments of these scientists - most of whom are actual climate scientists - for what reason??? ah yes... because they disagree with the orthodoxy which is being rapidly debunked every day.

But you do prove my point rather spectacularly by pretty much saying that you really dont care about what such highly respected and credendtialled scientists say. You support a message and if the science supports it thats a bonus, but not required.
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Reply #160 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 8:08am
 
When you look at all the conflicting evidence I can't see how anyone can not be a sceptic, some people have forgotten the true meaning of science, science has become political propaganda, appalling really.
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Reply #161 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 8:54am
 
Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 8th, 2013 at 8:08am:
When you look at all the conflicting evidence I can't see how anyone can not be a sceptic, some people have forgotten the true meaning of science, science has become political propaganda, appalling really.


Na..political propaganda is still political propaganda..you just cant tell the difference between scientific debate and a few pollies trying to shore up their election chances.
But even so..its prudent to cut the amount of pollution we have been spewing into the atmosphere since the industrial revolution even if you think there only a 50/50 chance that polluting the planet is not a wise thing to be doing.
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Reply #162 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 9:02am
 
adelcrow wrote on Jan 8th, 2013 at 8:54am:
Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 8th, 2013 at 8:08am:
When you look at all the conflicting evidence I can't see how anyone can not be a sceptic, some people have forgotten the true meaning of science, science has become political propaganda, appalling really.


Na..political propaganda is still political propaganda..you just cant tell the difference between scientific debate and a few pollies trying to shore up their election chances.
But even so..its prudent to cut the amount of pollution we have been spewing into the atmosphere since the industrial revolution even if you think there only a 50/50 chance that polluting the planet is not a wise thing to be doing.


two major flaws in your argument.

1) it is SCIENTISTS driving the sceptic debate - not pollies
2) CO2 is not a pollutant. Only the craziest loon in the ACCC inner circle of high priests beleives that.
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Reply #163 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 9:35am
 
adelcrow wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 6:18pm:
Its the hottest day in Hobart since records have been taken and one of the hottest in Adelaide....yep the planet is cooling just like the deniers said it would  Grin


Jan 5 (Reuters) - Temperatures in China have plunged to their lowest in almost three decades, cold enough to freeze coastal waters and trap 1,000 ships in ice, official media said at the weekend.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/05/china-weather-idUSL4N0AA0D820130105

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Reply #164 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 9:59am
 
Soren wrote on Jan 8th, 2013 at 9:35am:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 6:18pm:
Its the hottest day in Hobart since records have been taken and one of the hottest in Adelaide....yep the planet is cooling just like the deniers said it would  Grin


Jan 5 (Reuters) - Temperatures in China have plunged to their lowest in almost three decades, cold enough to freeze coastal waters and trap 1,000 ships in ice, official media said at the weekend.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/05/china-weather-idUSL4N0AA0D820130105


NASA scientist says events like these prove global warming is natural and finsished for now.
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