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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137500 Gender:	Re: Global cooling Reply #30 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:20am rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:28pm: What don't you understand? Why so many people are absolutely terrified by a hypothesis that has no credible, reliable evidence. I've told you this before. Do you have a bad memory bunny boy?
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137500 Gender:	Re: Global cooling Reply #31 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:25am rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:03pm: Greggery seems to be trying to deny the bleeding obvious. Link? Explanation? You're not making silly assumptions again, are you bunny boy?
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Reply #32 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:48am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 2:07am:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 7:35pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:18pm:

Its the hottest day in Hobart since records have been taken and one of the hottest in Adelaide....yep the planet is cooling just like the deniers said it would Grin

Yep, a whole 0.1 C hotter...( 40.9 C..and the previous was 40.8 in 1976)....

So the earth isnt on a cooling trend..thanks for admitting it Cheesy

Nope, that's not what I meant...0.1 is well within the margin for error of instrumentation..

Not to mention the whacking great bushfire, burning around Hobart, which also contributed...

You may have missed the following post?
The official temperature, was actually 41.8c, which means that it was a full 1.0c higher than the previous record, NOT just 0.1c.

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:31pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:18pm:

Its the hottest day in Hobart since records have been taken and one of the hottest in Adelaide....yep the planet is cooling just like the deniers said it would Grin

Yep, a whole 0.1 C hotter...( 40.9 C..and the previous was 40.8 in 1976)....

According to BoM it was actually 41.8c @ 04:05pm, which is definitely a bit warm for those Taswegians.
http://www.bom.gov.au/tas/observations/hobart.shtml

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Reply #33 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:49am

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:35pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:45pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:18pm:

Its the hottest day in Hobart since records have been taken and one of the hottest in Adelaide....yep the planet is cooling just like the deniers said it would Grin

not even close to the hottest in adelaide. in fact, it has been a very mild summer and BELOW average temperatures. you get one day that is hot and you come up with this crap.

Yep. When it's convenient for their "argument", AGW alarmists will use local weather in place of world climate every time.

the last 4 or 5 years in adelaide have been rela;tively cool. we get 2 or 3 40+ days and then the rest are 20s. Gone are the dayss of 35+ for weeks on end

that GW does seem to be suspiciously absent yet again.

Well, maybe Adelaide hasn't yet had the pleasure, BUT that doesn't mean those long, hot days are gone.

Oh no, I know they haven't gone, because we just went thru a week or so of 35c+ in Perth!

And, it was heaps of fun?

and was it 'unprecedented' or merely more of the usual for Perth?

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Reply #34 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:50am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:03pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:54pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:45pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:18pm:

Its the hottest day in Hobart since records have been taken and one of the hottest in Adelaide....yep the planet is cooling just like the deniers said it would Grin

not even close to the hottest in adelaide. in fact, it has been a very mild summer and BELOW average temperatures. you get one day that is hot and you come up with this crap.

Yep. When it's convenient for their "argument", AGW alarmists will use local weather in place of world climate every time.

Who is using local weather in place of world climate every time Greggery?

The world climate is also increasing. That is the point.
That is what has been predicted for decades. That is what is happening.

What don't you understand?

I dont understand how you cant read a weather map and how you dont know the consequences of highs, lack of h2o and a monsoon trough that is far from its normal position.

I do like playing the weather is climate game though (bit of oneupmanship fun), cant let the doomsday cult have the game to themselves. You will not know what snow is like, ever again lol

What does reading a weather map have to do with the simple fact that the planet's temperature is increasing? The increase in global temperature over recent decades is clear and unambiguous.

Greggery seems to be trying to deny the bleeding obvious. Are you trying to do the same?

the problem with yoru statement is that it is fundamentally untrue. even the CRU adn IPCC admit that there has been no statistically significant warming for the past 16 years - soon to be 17.

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Reply #35 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:52am

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:42pm:

Global warming hysterics believe that weather only came about in the 1800's when they started taking measurements, before that there was no weather, so to a normal person with a scientific mind today's Hobart weather would be regarded as a once in a 100 year event, so it has likely happened hundreds of times before but to a global warming hysteric that has no grasp on reality it has only happened once in 4 billion years, I hope this helps. Wink

1000 years ago Greenland was colonised and Vikings sailed NORTH of the island. Temperatures were 3-4 degrees warmer than currently. makes a mockery of the current alarmism.

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Reply #36 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:57am

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:25pm:

Short term yes it has been warm. No co2 correlation.

Much as I hate to admit it progs is right.

You can't blame a single weather event on global warming (and that goes for both sides).

The cause of this heatwave is the lack of cloud over the Australian interior and north winds bringing that heat to the southern areas.

I know that it is tempting to point score. Every time there is a cold snap in America or Europe the warming deniers start similar threads and write sarcastic letters to the murdoch press. But threads like these do nothing for the debate.

the difference is that Europe has literally record cold and then a year later places like IPCC say that it was the warmest winter ever and other such nonsense. weather is just weather, but when people start to lie about it so blatantly, you start to question everything else they say.

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Reply #37 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:57am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:20am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:28pm:

What don't you understand?

Why so many people are absolutely terrified by a hypothesis that has no credible, reliable evidence.

I've told you this before. Do you have a bad memory bunny boy?

The evidence is clear to see, if you choose to see it.

Human activities of 7 billion people are releasing CO2 into the atmosphere. FACT

Levels of CO2 in the atmosphere are rising. FACT

CO2 is a greenhouse gas which absorbs heat. FACT

The worlds temperatures are rising as evidenced by receding glaciers, polar ice melt and human observations. FACT

If you follow this chain of facts you can see that human activities are warming the planet.

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Reply #38 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:19am

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:04am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:25pm:

Short term yes it has been warm. No co2 correlation.

Much as I hate to admit it progs is right.

You can't blame a single weather event on global warming (and that goes for both sides).

The cause of this heatwave is the lack of cloud over the Australian interior and north winds bringing that heat to the southern areas.

I know that it is tempting to point score. Every time there is a cold snap in America or Europe the warming deniers start similar threads and write sarcastic letters to the murdoch press. But threads like these do nothing for the debate.

Add to that the jet stream which is keeping pretty low underneath Australia. Usually it will flick up into Australia or break out into 2 streams. That and the monsoon trough are working together to make sure we get burnt.

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Reply #39 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:30am

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:20am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:28pm:

What don't you understand?

Why so many people are absolutely terrified by a hypothesis that has no credible, reliable evidence.

I've told you this before. Do you have a bad memory bunny boy?

The evidence is clear to see, if you choose to see it.

Human activities of 7 billion people are releasing CO2 into the atmosphere. FACT

but a circular argument

Levels of CO2 in the atmosphere are rising. FACT pity temperature is not

CO2 is a greenhouse gas which absorbs heat. FACT so are all gases. CO@ is one of the least greenhouse gases. water vapour is far more potent

The worlds temperatures are rising as evidenced by receding glaciers, polar ice melt and human observations. FACT

actually glaciers have stopped recending, antarctica is increasine ice levela dn arctic has a underwater volcano. PLUS temperatures have not increased in 16 years

If you follow this chain of facts you can see that human activities are warming the planet.

the chain of 'facts' is actully very thin. there is no direct proof that humans are responsible for waring. it is just a hypothesis that remains to be proven or disproven.

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 104695 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Global cooling Reply #40 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:42am Longy, Quote: actually glaciers have stopped recending, antarctica is increasine ice levela dn arctic has a underwater volcano. PLUS temperatures have not increased in 16 years Why can't you use the spell check tab?
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Reply #41 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:54am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:50am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 10:03pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:54pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 8:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:47pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:45pm:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 6:18pm:

Its the hottest day in Hobart since records have been taken and one of the hottest in Adelaide....yep the planet is cooling just like the deniers said it would Grin

not even close to the hottest in adelaide. in fact, it has been a very mild summer and BELOW average temperatures. you get one day that is hot and you come up with this crap.

Yep. When it's convenient for their "argument", AGW alarmists will use local weather in place of world climate every time.

Who is using local weather in place of world climate every time Greggery?

The world climate is also increasing. That is the point.
That is what has been predicted for decades. That is what is happening.

What don't you understand?

I dont understand how you cant read a weather map and how you dont know the consequences of highs, lack of h2o and a monsoon trough that is far from its normal position.

I do like playing the weather is climate game though (bit of oneupmanship fun), cant let the doomsday cult have the game to themselves. You will not know what snow is like, ever again lol

What does reading a weather map have to do with the simple fact that the planet's temperature is increasing? The increase in global temperature over recent decades is clear and unambiguous.

Greggery seems to be trying to deny the bleeding obvious. Are you trying to do the same?

the problem with yoru statement is that it is fundamentally untrue. even the CRU adn IPCC admit that there has been no statistically significant warming for the past 16 years - soon to be 17.

the problem with yoru statement is that it is fundamentally untrue. Neiher the CRU or the IPCC admit that there has been no statistically significant warming for the past 16 years - soon to be 17.

You are simply telling a lie.

If you are not - please provide a reference for the CRU or the IPCC admiting that there has been no statistically significant warming for the past 16 years.

The simple fact is that EVERY SINGLE ONE of the past 16 years has had a positive temperature anomaly with respect to the global 30 year average.

This means the planet is warming.

Denying this fact does not make it go away. Nor does telling lies about what the CRU or the IPCC have said.

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Reply #42 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:55am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:42am:

Longy,
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actually glaciers have stopped recending, antarctica is increasine ice levela dn arctic has a underwater volcano. PLUS temperatures have not increased in 16 years

Why can't you use the spell check tab?

Spelling is the least of his problems, If there was a lying tab the silly old bugger would always be using it.

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Reply #43 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:58am

skippy. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:55am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:42am:

Longy,
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actually glaciers have stopped recending, antarctica is increasine ice levela dn arctic has a underwater volcano. PLUS temperatures have not increased in 16 years

Why can't you use the spell check tab?

Spelling is the least of his problems, If there was a lying tab the silly old bugger would always be using it.

Longweekend is illiterate.

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Reply #44 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:58am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:54am: