I doubt Hitler thought he was a real Christian. He would have been playing the Machiavellian game of appearing religious to the people, but being the Fox and Lion behind the scenes.

Hitler's ideas were based in popular philosophies of his time: German Romanticism and Racial Science.

Romanticism looks at the people as intimately tied to the land; like the trees, animals and flowers, the people are an organic entity that are attached to the soil (hence the famous term 'blood and soil'). This world view arose in reaction to the capitalist world view which they believed drained the life and vigour from the people. Romanticism is a kind of 'return to nature.' Traces of this world perspective can still be found in the Greens today.

Racial Science was of the position that the Aryan peoples were the creators of all science, art and technology, and the 'lesser' races could only be bearers or maintainers of the original products created by the Aryans. This 'genius' was passed on eugenically and it held the belief that race mixing was the ultimate downfall for creativity. If you read the chapter "Nation and Race" from Mein Kampf, this pretty much outlines the basis of the Nazi movement.

Hitler appeared to the masses as religious because that is what the people want and respect; they want a leader who represents the 'good' and something that transcends the mundane  It would have been political suicide to slander gut in front of the masses. The 1930-40s were not like today where openly being an atheist is seen as the 'hip' thing to be.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 7:47am:



thanks misty,

good to recieve some good accurate information instead of 15 pages of absolute drivel.
thanks for ignoring these grade 2 students and posting something intelligent

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 9:22am:


Can you link Hitler's ideas - Romanticism and Racial Science - (although technically they were not his ideas, he merely brought them into the political sphere like no one previously) to anything from the bibles, new and old?

Personally, it doesn't bother me if he was a Christian or not. I merely try and bring a more accurate historical picture to the debate, because clowns like you and Spot place your hatred of Christianity into the foreground and push all other considerations aside.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 9:22am:


Can you link Hitler's ideas - Romanticism and Racial Science - (although technically they were not his ideas, he merely brought them into the political sphere like no one previously) to anything from the bibles, new and old?

Personally, it doesn't bother me if he was a Christian or not. I merely try and bring a more accurate historical picture to the debate, because clowns like you and Spot place your hatred of Christianity into the foreground and push all other considerations aside.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 9:24am:


and all he has done is added his bullshit to the debate

Here is the proof that Hitler was a christian including excerpts from his speeches. It's the proof that christians don't want to know about.

http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian.htm

“National Socialism is not a cult-movement-- a movement for worship; it is exclusively a ‘volkic’ political doctrine based upon racial principles.  In its purpose there is no mystic cult, only the care and leadership of a people defined by a common blood-relationship... We will not allow mystically- minded occult folk with a passion for exploring the secrets of the world beyond to steal into our Movement.  Such folk are not National Socialists, but something else-- in any case something which has nothing to do with us.  At the head of our programme there stand no secret surmisings but clear-cut perception and straightforward profession of belief.  But since we set as the central point of this perception and of this profession of belief the maintenance and hence the security for the future of a being formed by God, we thus serve the maintenance of a divine work and fulfill a divine will-- not in the secret twilight of a new house of worship, but openly before the face of the Lord…  Our worship is exclusively the cultivation of the natural, and for that reason, because natural, therefore God-willed.  Our humility is the unconditional submission before the divine laws of existence so far as they are known to us men.”  -Adolf Hitler, in Nuremberg on 6 Sept.1938.

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:26am:


Bullshit? Anyone who has done some proper research knows Nazism capitalised on certain ideas in the intellectual climate of the time.

Let's look at the quote from your link:

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Okay, the dominant theme is racialism and its preservation. God is then inserted into the argument to give it more "authority". Can you quote anywhere from the new or old testament where such a view is espoused?

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

    Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 7^th, 2013 at 10:33am:


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