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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #360 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:56pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:09pm:
Here's the truth.

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THE TRUE FACE OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INQUISITION --
ROTTEN SPIRITUAL FRUIT FROM THE ABYSS OF HELL

few people know specific details of this murderous campaign that lasted over 1,200 years, killing 75 million people. But, once you understand the unprecedented horrors of the Inquisition, you will never look at Roman Catholicism the same way again.





Warning - not suitable for children or those faint of heart.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1676.cfm



Longweekend must read the above link in full before replying.

He needs to know what all of his devils & witches can lead to.
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Reply #361 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 8:48pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:30pm:
well I dont pretend I can speak and translate latin like you bozos do and declare things that are ridiculous. dont you ever get sick of being wrong?

and for th 87643rd time. I'm not catholic so I have nothing to defend nor do I really care what you say about catholics. after all, if it is like any other topic you enter, your comments will be wrong, very wrong, out of context or ludicroua.


So why do you keep defending them in any thread that mentions them ?

it's the same old book but different brand of the same bullshit. You can't dissociate yourself from it just because you don't attend the same church. You read from the same old book which for 600 years was interpreted by so called experts who had a direct chain to your God.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #362 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 9:19pm
 
Hi Nail,
notice how Longweekend is always judging other people?

Why doesn't he follow his own Bible?


Quote:
Matthew 7:1
“Judge not, that ye be not judged”


Luke 6:37 
“Judge not, and ye shall not be judged, condemn not and ye shall not be condemned:
forgive, and ye shall be forgiven”



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Reply #363 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:09pm:
Here's the truth.

Quote:
THE TRUE FACE OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INQUISITION --
ROTTEN SPIRITUAL FRUIT FROM THE ABYSS OF HELL

few people know specific details of this murderous campaign that lasted over 1,200 years, killing 75 million people. But, once you understand the unprecedented horrors of the Inquisition, you will never look at Roman Catholicism the same way again.





Warning - not suitable for children or those faint of heart.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1676.cfm


75 million?! That can't be right. The link doesn't contain any documented evidence for that figure. The figures I've seen vary from a few thousand to 150,000.

75 million over 1,200 years means 62,500 a year, which means 175 killed a day. Is there any evidence for this?
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #364 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:14pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:09pm:
Here's the truth.

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THE TRUE FACE OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INQUISITION --
ROTTEN SPIRITUAL FRUIT FROM THE ABYSS OF HELL

few people know specific details of this murderous campaign that lasted over 1,200 years, killing 75 million people. But, once you understand the unprecedented horrors of the Inquisition, you will never look at Roman Catholicism the same way again.





Warning - not suitable for children or those faint of heart.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1676.cfm


75 million?! That can't be right. The link doesn't contain any documented evidence for that figure. The figures I've seen vary from a few thousand to 150,000.

75 million over 1,200 years means 62,500 a year, which means 175 killed a day. Is there any evidence for this?



I don't know for sure - maybe no one does.
I've heard all sorts of different figures but they have always been large.
The Inquisition was no small matter.
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #365 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:24pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:09pm:
Here's the truth.

Quote:
THE TRUE FACE OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INQUISITION --
ROTTEN SPIRITUAL FRUIT FROM THE ABYSS OF HELL

few people know specific details of this murderous campaign that lasted over 1,200 years, killing 75 million people. But, once you understand the unprecedented horrors of the Inquisition, you will never look at Roman Catholicism the same way again.





Warning - not suitable for children or those faint of heart.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1676.cfm


75 million?! That can't be right. The link doesn't contain any documented evidence for that figure. The figures I've seen vary from a few thousand to 150,000.

75 million over 1,200 years means 62,500 a year, which means 175 killed a day. Is there any evidence for this?


They had 600 years to do it and they weren't just doing one a year Sad

Where do you think they got all of their wealth from ? They murdered people and then stole their assets Sad

They also had at least 50 different torture tools to maim and kill people Sad
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #366 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:52pm
 
Here are some numbers for you.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm

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Protestant and Catholic rivaled each other in the madness of the hour. Witches were burned no longer in ones and twos, but in scores and hundreds. A bishop of Geneva is said to have burned five hundred within three months, a bishop of Bamburg six hundred, a bishop of Wurzburg nine hundred. Eight hundred were condemned, apparently in one body, by the Senate of Savoy. Nicholaus Remigius, the criminal judge in Lorraine, boasted that in 15 years he had sent to death 900 people for the crime of witchcraft. In one year alone he forced 16 witches to commit suicide.



The Archbishop of Treves burned a hundred and eighteen women and two men, from whom confessions had been extorted that their incantations had prolonged the winter. Paramo boasts that in a century and a half from the commencement of the sect, in 1404, the Holy Office had burned at least 30,000 witches. Cumanus, in Italy, burned 41 women in one province alone. Strasbourg, burned 5000 in a period of 20 years.



It was reported in 1518 when the Senate was officially informed that the inquisitor had burned 70 witches of the Valcamonica, that he had as many in his prisons, and that those suspected or accused amounted to about 5000, or one fourth of the inhabitants of the valleys. In Germany 500 were burned in 1515 and 1516. In 1524, 1000 females accused of being witches died at Como, and for several years subsequently, the number of victims exceeded 100 annually.



In France, about 1520, the fires for the execution of witches blazed in almost every town; in one township in Piedmont there was not a family that had not lost a member; at Verneuil in 1561, women were burned on the charged of having converted themselves into cats. The delusion spread like an epidemic through the villages. Many women were murdered by mobs. At Leith, in Scotland, 9 women were burned together in 1664; the bishops’ palaces of South Germany basically became shambles--the lordly prelates of Salzburg, Wurzburg, and Bamberg taking lead in the butchery.



The executioner of Neisse in Silesia even invented an oven in which he roasted to death 42 women and young girls in one year. Within 9 years he had roasted over a 1000 people, including children 2 to 4 years old. In Wurzburg many children were burned, some no older than 9 years.




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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #367 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:59pm
 
More numbers killed by the Inquisition.
As I said - it was no small matter:


http://seawaves.us/na/Inquisitions.html

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Victor Hugo estimated the number of the victims of the Inquisition at five million, it is said, and certainly the number was much greater than that if we take into account, as we should, the wives and husbands, the parents and children, the brothers and sisters, and other relatives of those tortured and slaughtered by the priestly institution. To these millions should properly be added the others killed in the wars precipitated in the attempt to fasten the Inquisition upon the people of various countries, as the Netherlands and Germany.
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Reply #368 - Jan 7th, 2013 at 11:13pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:52pm:
Here are some numbers for you.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm

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Protestant and Catholic rivaled each other in the madness of the hour. Witches were burned no longer in ones and twos, but in scores and hundreds. A bishop of Geneva is said to have burned five hundred within three months, a bishop of Bamburg six hundred, a bishop of Wurzburg nine hundred. Eight hundred were condemned, apparently in one body, by the Senate of Savoy. Nicholaus Remigius, the criminal judge in Lorraine, boasted that in 15 years he had sent to death 900 people for the crime of witchcraft. In one year alone he forced 16 witches to commit suicide.



The Archbishop of Treves burned a hundred and eighteen women and two men, from whom confessions had been extorted that their incantations had prolonged the winter. Paramo boasts that in a century and a half from the commencement of the sect, in 1404, the Holy Office had burned at least 30,000 witches. Cumanus, in Italy, burned 41 women in one province alone. Strasbourg, burned 5000 in a period of 20 years.



It was reported in 1518 when the Senate was officially informed that the inquisitor had burned 70 witches of the Valcamonica, that he had as many in his prisons, and that those suspected or accused amounted to about 5000, or one fourth of the inhabitants of the valleys. In Germany 500 were burned in 1515 and 1516. In 1524, 1000 females accused of being witches died at Como, and for several years subsequently, the number of victims exceeded 100 annually.



In France, about 1520, the fires for the execution of witches blazed in almost every town; in one township in Piedmont there was not a family that had not lost a member; at Verneuil in 1561, women were burned on the charged of having converted themselves into cats. The delusion spread like an epidemic through the villages. Many women were murdered by mobs. At Leith, in Scotland, 9 women were burned together in 1664; the bishops’ palaces of South Germany basically became shambles--the lordly prelates of Salzburg, Wurzburg, and Bamberg taking lead in the butchery.



The executioner of Neisse in Silesia even invented an oven in which he roasted to death 42 women and young girls in one year. Within 9 years he had roasted over a 1000 people, including children 2 to 4 years old. In Wurzburg many children were burned, some no older than 9 years.






They were doing it everywhere in small numbers which added up to lots of people who were mutilated and murdered Sad

Even one person was one to many for a so called church institution that now portrays itself as a source of moral guidance Sad
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #369 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 1:05am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:14pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:09pm:
Here's the truth.

Quote:
THE TRUE FACE OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INQUISITION --
ROTTEN SPIRITUAL FRUIT FROM THE ABYSS OF HELL

few people know specific details of this murderous campaign that lasted over 1,200 years, killing 75 million people. But, once you understand the unprecedented horrors of the Inquisition, you will never look at Roman Catholicism the same way again.





Warning - not suitable for children or those faint of heart.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1676.cfm


75 million?! That can't be right. The link doesn't contain any documented evidence for that figure. The figures I've seen vary from a few thousand to 150,000.

75 million over 1,200 years means 62,500 a year, which means 175 killed a day. Is there any evidence for this?



I don't know for sure - maybe no one does.
I've heard all sorts of different figures but they have always been large.
The Inquisition was no small matter.


Well, reputable historians, put the number at between 31,000 and 125,000...(although a lot of the 125,000 are reported to have died in prison, from poor conditions rather than execution).

The figures I've found show that execution rates were between 2% and 10% of people investigated..
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #370 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 4:38am
 
Soren wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:02pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:39pm:
Soren wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:57pm:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:40pm:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:16pm:
crap 

aetheist SAY they use leviticus to say gays are evil.
but they dont. 

the message in most christian churches would be based on the life of christ.  not on leveticus.

please show me where christ ever mentioned leveticus. 



If the church no longer uses Leviticus, and Jesus didn't have it in for gays, why does the church have it in for gays? On who's authority? if they are not using the word of God.



Not accepting two jokers and a cocker spaniel as indistinguishable from mum and dad is not exactly 'having it in for gays'.
You don't have to be a Christian to think that two blokes playing ma 'n da is a farce.  Or do you really, really think that it is no different from a father and a mother?





That explains why you have it in for gays.

Why do Christians say homosexuality is a sin if they don't use the breathed word of God as a guide? Who told them it's a sin?



Do you actually need god to tell you that sticking a bloke up yer arse is a bad idea?
What else do you need spelled out?


I can just hear you, numpties, "Oh yeah?? Where does it say in the bible that you shouldn't put your food up yer arse? Or to burn your children or jump off a cliff, eh? Show us where it says that??"





So why is it the religious ppl that want to judge the gays then? Why do they object to them being treated equally? Why is it any of their business?

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Reply #371 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 4:39am
 
... wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:18pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:56pm:
... wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:24pm:
... wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:15pm:
Robert,
Quote:
Correct.  Just as identifying as a Catholic doesn't make one a mass murderer.


Robert,
Would you say the same about someone who identifies as being a Nazi?


Yep.  There's only one thing that makes one a mass murderer - killing heaps of people.


Hi Robert,
so you are not concerned about the rise of Catholics & you
wouldn't be concerned about the rise once more of Nazis?

My claim is that they are both failed doctrines which led to the death & torture of millions of people.
We accept Catholics but not Nazis - go figure?



the RISE of catholics?  Oh boy - you're only a millennium out of date...

and I'd actually welcome a rise in nazis - it'd certainyl help to separate the fact from the fiction. The whole nazi image is too "cartoon super-villain-ish" to be real, and besides, it couldn't be worse than the differnt brand of fascism we live under anyway.


You must be very young. Havent seen any wars either. The nazis were patriots.

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And nazis being patriotic is relevant....in what way exactly?


Yeah thats right skip the rest of my post.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #372 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 4:41am
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:37pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:48pm:
gold_medal wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:39pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:05pm:
Big Dave wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:19pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:02pm:
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Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 11:36am:
aquascoot wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 11:13am:
now first let me say , whilst i like christianity , i am not a christian per se.

but i would suspect that about 1 in 1000 christians take the bible literally.

thats 1 in 1000 that interpret it in the way that nail, bobby, pansi and spot interpret it.

apart from a few mental nutjobs like david karesh in weaco, NO christians groups would interpret any of this stuff in any sort of literal way.


also re the arguement about hitler.
what crap.
imagine we had a thread
"what are tasmanians like as people" and i posted 20 posts on the evil done by martin bryant.
would that not seem silly/insane to you.

how could anyone with 1/2 a brain say hitler was a christian. if he was i doubt he made it through the pearly gates Cheesy Cheesy


then that makes them hypocrites because their own bible tells them to murder others for various different reasons !!



all these whack job quotes that the aetheists keep coming up with. NONE and i do mean NONE of those passages would EVER be read in a christian church in australia.

jesus isnt responsible for the old testment and he isnt responsible for the mental problems of the people who wrote the bible many many decades after his death.

and christains try to follow the example of christ , not this rubbish. just toss out the obviously crap verses and read the
"flavour' of what jesus was saying.

thats what 99.999999999999 % of christians do.

ou dont seriously think any of them read leviticus do you Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Yeah they use leviticus to say gays are evil

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That's what it's all about hey Borgy. Because gay people can't stomach the fact the the big religions see homosexuality is an abomination. It's behind the whole gay marriage thing. Gays can legally do all the things that marriage entails  but not in a church. It's all about changing religion. It's about going after the things that push people against homosexuality. Just say it.


I dont know what you are talking about there but whenever an xtian is asked to show where in the bible it says gays are bad they go to leviticus.

SOB


They also go to Romans and a variety of other places. You could always try being informed as an antidote to your consistent error.


Seriously you need to let up a bit on the grog - you arent making any6 sense.

What consistent error BTW?

SOB


the problem with explaining your 'consistent error' is that it would require you to have a level of intelligence to comprehend the answer that you clearly do not possess.  You are not just a moron - you are the person that other morons call a moron.

and it aint just my opinion... it is pretty  much everyone's.


Nope its yours. In my experience most ppl think you are a moron.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #373 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 4:44am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 8th, 2013 at 1:05am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:14pm:
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 10:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 7:09pm:
Here's the truth.

Quote:
THE TRUE FACE OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INQUISITION --
ROTTEN SPIRITUAL FRUIT FROM THE ABYSS OF HELL

few people know specific details of this murderous campaign that lasted over 1,200 years, killing 75 million people. But, once you understand the unprecedented horrors of the Inquisition, you will never look at Roman Catholicism the same way again.





Warning - not suitable for children or those faint of heart.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/News/n1676.cfm


75 million?! That can't be right. The link doesn't contain any documented evidence for that figure. The figures I've seen vary from a few thousand to 150,000.

75 million over 1,200 years means 62,500 a year, which means 175 killed a day. Is there any evidence for this?



I don't know for sure - maybe no one does.
I've heard all sorts of different figures but they have always been large.
The Inquisition was no small matter.


Well, reputable historians, put the number at between 31,000 and 125,000...(although a lot of the 125,000 are reported to have died in prison, from poor conditions rather than execution).

The figures I've found show that execution rates were between 2% and 10% of people investigated..


Reputable historians? I notice you didnt provide any links to these ppl. . . .

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #374 - Jan 8th, 2013 at 4:47am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:04am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:58pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:48pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 5:45pm:
freediver wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 4:58pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 6th, 2013 at 3:18pm:
Ethics

SOB


Nice graphic SOB. Perhaps you should heed your own advice. I have not seen anyone here try to do this as much as you.

But I still haven't seen you post a rational response to the fact that religious people donate more of their time and money to charity than atheists.



Have you provided any evidence for the proposition? Its prolly not even true.

SOB


Sure spot. We have been discussing the evidence with you in at least two other threads in the last few days. Have you forgotten already?


What threads? Threads i am not even participating in? WTF are you talking about?

SOB


I see you havent answered this freediver. Is that because you lied?

SOB


Still waiting

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