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Reply #420 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:34pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

You have it back to front, as always, poppycock.

The gays want to be treated as if there was nuffin' remarkable about sticking blokes up themselves. They want to be judged as no different when they evidently are different. It is called the normalisation of deviance.

You see? There you go again. It is normal for them.

SOB

So if it's normal for them but abnormal for you - are they then the same as you?

(careful, trick questioin).

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #422 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:01pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:42pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 11:51am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 11:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

Gold_medal,
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it is a complex book and treating it simplistically will always get the wrong result. The book is the story of God's relationship with man and Jesus the central theme. Failure to understand or accept the relevence does not mean it is irrelevant. Leviticus for instance is the 'shadow' version of the 'substance' as demonstrated in Hebrews. once again it is the parallel development of Gods plan that shines thru. But you wont get it from a mere cursory reading.

Longy,
That's just weasel words from an apologist for the atrocities in the Bible.
Leviticus still stands as the Law.

see... thats the difference between a scholar and someone like yourself who endlessly parrots verses out of context. I actually know what the bible is saying. It is not dissimilar to you thinking youare an author because you can quote words out of a dictionary.

Well then explain it to all the lessor people here. Cheesy

I did. It's called the 'shadow and the substance'. it is beyond your knowledge and training as well as beyond your intellect.

just more meaningless drivel from someone who claims to have a science qualification.

Hi Nail, what these christians do is cover up the horrors of the Old Testament Laws
with lofty sounding phrases such as shadow version of the 'substance' .

It doesn't fool anyone.
Notice he couldn't even explain it himself when asked!

Not only is Longweekend :
a climate change denier
an Inquisition denier

he is an Old Testament denier of the validity of those laws.

Jesus said:

Luke 16:17

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"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass,. than one tittle of the law to fail"

It's quite clear that those crazy OT laws still apply today.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #424 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:42pm

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

You have it back to front, as always, poppycock.

The gays want to be treated as if there was nuffin' remarkable about sticking blokes up themselves. They want to be judged as no different when they evidently are different. It is called the normalisation of deviance.

You see? There you go again. It is normal for them.

SOB

So if it's normal for them but abnormal for you - are they then the same as you?

(careful, trick questioin).

Its normal within species human and some other species too on this planet

SOB

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #425 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:01pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 1:42pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 12:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 11:51am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 11:02am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

Gold_medal,
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it is a complex book and treating it simplistically will always get the wrong result. The book is the story of God's relationship with man and Jesus the central theme. Failure to understand or accept the relevence does not mean it is irrelevant. Leviticus for instance is the 'shadow' version of the 'substance' as demonstrated in Hebrews. once again it is the parallel development of Gods plan that shines thru. But you wont get it from a mere cursory reading.

Longy,
That's just weasel words from an apologist for the atrocities in the Bible.
Leviticus still stands as the Law.

see... thats the difference between a scholar and someone like yourself who endlessly parrots verses out of context. I actually know what the bible is saying. It is not dissimilar to you thinking youare an author because you can quote words out of a dictionary.

Well then explain it to all the lessor people here. Cheesy

I did. It's called the 'shadow and the substance'. it is beyond your knowledge and training as well as beyond your intellect.

just more meaningless drivel from someone who claims to have a science qualification.

Hi Nail, what these christians do is cover up the horrors of the Old Testament Laws
with lofty sounding phrases such as shadow version of the 'substance' .

It doesn't fool anyone.
Notice he couldn't even explain it himself when asked!

Not only is Longweekend :
a climate change denier
an Inquisition denier

he is an Old Testament denier of the validity of those laws.

Jesus said:

Luke 16:17

Quote:

"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass,. than one tittle of the law to fail"

It's quite clear that those crazy OT laws still apply today.

it would be pointless to engage in a theological discssion with you because you just dont understand the entire topic. You dont get the subtle yet important difference betwen FAIL and FULFILL.

You are out of your depth... again.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #426 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:56pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

You have it back to front, as always, poppycock.

The gays want to be treated as if there was nuffin' remarkable about sticking blokes up themselves. They want to be judged as no different when they evidently are different. It is called the normalisation of deviance.

You see? There you go again. It is normal for them.

SOB

So if it's normal for them but abnormal for you - are they then the same as you?

(careful, trick questioin).

Its normal within species human and some other species too on this planet

SOB

it is not 'normal' at all and that is using the tecnhical meaning of the term 'normal'. homosexuality is way off the band described as 'the norm'.

but what a wase of time is it trying to explain this to you. as others have said, EVERY question is a trick question where you are concerned.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #427 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:56pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

You have it back to front, as always, poppycock.

The gays want to be treated as if there was nuffin' remarkable about sticking blokes up themselves. They want to be judged as no different when they evidently are different. It is called the normalisation of deviance.

You see? There you go again. It is normal for them.

SOB

So if it's normal for them but abnormal for you - are they then the same as you?

(careful, trick questioin).

Its normal within species human and some other species too on this planet

SOB

So if it occurs at all, that makes it "normal?" An interesting theory, but perhaps a little inconsistent with the definition of "normal".

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nor·mal

/ˈnôrməl/

Adjective

Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

Noun

The usual, average, or typical state or condition.

unless you can name a species where homosexuality is usual, typical or expected, I have no choice but to fail you.

Please review and resubmit.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #428 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 5:04pm

... wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

You have it back to front, as always, poppycock.

The gays want to be treated as if there was nuffin' remarkable about sticking blokes up themselves. They want to be judged as no different when they evidently are different. It is called the normalisation of deviance.

You see? There you go again. It is normal for them.

SOB

So if it's normal for them but abnormal for you - are they then the same as you?

(careful, trick questioin).

Its normal within species human and some other species too on this planet

SOB

So if it occurs at all, that makes it "normal?" An interesting theory, but perhaps a little inconsistent with the definition of "normal".

Quote:

nor·mal

/ˈnôrməl/

Adjective

Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

Noun

The usual, average, or typical state or condition.

unless you can name a species where homosexuality is usual, typical or expected, I have no choice but to fail you.

Please review and resubmit.

Spot, how many of your school teachers took early retirement on stress leave

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #429 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 5:52pm

In answer to Longweekend - the Old Testament denier:

http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

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I hear so many Christians now a days claim that the Old Testament is defunct for Jesus was the “lamb” to clear away its rules and regulations. This is just another bullshit scapegoat that Christians use to ignore the atrocities and bizarre laws commanded by their god. Their preachers spoon feed them that the Old Testament is no longer binding so that they can excuse the majority of evil that the bible promotes. I am so tired of Christians manipulating the scriptures so that they can assign a kinder nature to their God, that I have assembled a BRIEF list of verses which clearly show that the Old Testament is not to be ignored. Its laws should indeed be adhered to, for the New Testament demands it! After this section I shall list where the Bible contradicts itself concerning other laws.

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #430 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 6:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 5:52pm:

In answer to Longweekend - the Old Testament denier:

http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

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I hear so many Christians now a days claim that the Old Testament is defunct for Jesus was the “lamb” to clear away its rules and regulations. This is just another bullshit scapegoat that Christians use to ignore the atrocities and bizarre laws commanded by their god. Their preachers spoon feed them that the Old Testament is no longer binding so that they can excuse the majority of evil that the bible promotes. I am so tired of Christians manipulating the scriptures so that they can assign a kinder nature to their God, that I have assembled a BRIEF list of verses which clearly show that the Old Testament is not to be ignored. Its laws should indeed be adhered to, for the New Testament demands it! After this section I shall list where the Bible contradicts itself concerning other laws.

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

Jesus did accomplish all.
He fulfilled the laws of the Old test. They are completed.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #431 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 6:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 5:52pm:

In answer to Longweekend - the Old Testament denier:

http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

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I hear so many Christians now a days claim that the Old Testament is defunct for Jesus was the “lamb” to clear away its rules and regulations. This is just another bullshit scapegoat that Christians use to ignore the atrocities and bizarre laws commanded by their god. Their preachers spoon feed them that the Old Testament is no longer binding so that they can excuse the majority of evil that the bible promotes. I am so tired of Christians manipulating the scriptures so that they can assign a kinder nature to their God, that I have assembled a BRIEF list of verses which clearly show that the Old Testament is not to be ignored. Its laws should indeed be adhered to, for the New Testament demands it! After this section I shall list where the Bible contradicts itself concerning other laws.

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

read and learn. the highlighted words are what make the difference. the entire purpose of the Law was to point the way to Jesus and prepare for the Messiah and His death and resurrection. and it was 'accomplished'.

see how easy it is when you actually study stuff rather than google crap and pretend you understand it?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #432 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 6:45pm

That's rubbish - the old laws are still binding.

Try this:

http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

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2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #433 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:21pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

You have it back to front, as always, poppycock.

The gays want to be treated as if there was nuffin' remarkable about sticking blokes up themselves. They want to be judged as no different when they evidently are different. It is called the normalisation of deviance.

You see? There you go again. It is normal for them.

SOB

So if it's normal for them but abnormal for you - are they then the same as you?

(careful, trick question).

Its normal within species human and some other species too on this planet

SOB

SO, as you are a human (are you?), it's normal for you, you dirty thing.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #434 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 6:45pm:

That's rubbish - the old laws are still binding.

Try this:

http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

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2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

you are like a child trying to discuss things you have no understanding of. Why not read a bit more of the bible eg Romans where this concept is explained in full.

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