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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #435 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:09pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 6:45pm:

That's rubbish - the old laws are still binding.

Try this:

http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

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2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

you are like a child trying to discuss things you have no understanding of. Why not read a bit more of the bible eg Romans where this concept is explained in full.

Yes Longweekend - those other parts of the Bible say the opposite.
But who do you believe - Jesus or whoever wrote the other texts?

The other texts:
Romans 10:4; Galatians 3:23-25; Ephesians 2:15.

Don't be an apologist for the contradictions in the Bible.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #437 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:20pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 6:45pm:

That's rubbish - the old laws are still binding.

Try this:

http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

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2) All of the vicious Old Testament laws will be binding forever. "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)

3) Jesus strongly approves of the law and the prophets. He hasn’t the slightest objection to the cruelties of the Old Testament. "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)

you are like a child trying to discuss things you have no understanding of. Why not read a bit more of the bible eg Romans where this concept is explained in full.

you mean your interpretation of it Wink

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #438 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:25pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 5:52pm:

In answer to Longweekend - the Old Testament denier:

http://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm

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I hear so many Christians now a days claim that the Old Testament is defunct for Jesus was the “lamb” to clear away its rules and regulations. This is just another bullshit scapegoat that Christians use to ignore the atrocities and bizarre laws commanded by their god. Their preachers spoon feed them that the Old Testament is no longer binding so that they can excuse the majority of evil that the bible promotes. I am so tired of Christians manipulating the scriptures so that they can assign a kinder nature to their God, that I have assembled a BRIEF list of verses which clearly show that the Old Testament is not to be ignored. Its laws should indeed be adhered to, for the New Testament demands it! After this section I shall list where the Bible contradicts itself concerning other laws.

1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.

read and learn. the highlighted words are what make the difference. the entire purpose of the Law was to point the way to Jesus and prepare for the Messiah and His death and resurrection. and it was 'accomplished'.

see how easy it is when you actually study stuff rather than google crap and pretend you understand it?

that's the apologists church version of it which is spoon fed to gullible people such as yourself. Everyone knows that is the stock standard answer given by apologists for the atrocities outlined in the old testament.

next you'll be wheeling out the old "out of context" argument once again. Or the "those times were different" so it was alright to rape a woman and then marry her if you paid the old man a few shillings etc etc

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 105432 Melbourne Gender:	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #439 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:28pm Yes Nail, surely an all powerful God would have a better way to forgive all our sins than having his only son nailed to a cross & murdered in great pain ?
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #440 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:40pm

Monday morning on Radio National, on religion and violence.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/rachel-kohn-religion-and-violence/4454956

And guess what, kids? You won't believe it - research shows that religion leads to a more peaceful society!!! Research! That's, like, science, man! Unbelievable, innit? What will they think of next?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #441 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:50pm

Nail,
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that's the apologists church version of it which is spoon fed to gullible people such as yourself. Everyone knows that is the stock standard answer given by apologists for the atrocities outlined in the old testament.

Yes Nail,
debating Longweekend is like shooting fish in a barrel -
you can't lose.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #442 - Jan 9^th, 2013 at 5:42am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

You have it back to front, as always, poppycock.

The gays want to be treated as if there was nuffin' remarkable about sticking blokes up themselves. They want to be judged as no different when they evidently are different. It is called the normalisation of deviance.

You see? There you go again. It is normal for them.

SOB

So if it's normal for them but abnormal for you - are they then the same as you?

(careful, trick questioin).

Its normal within species human and some other species too on this planet

SOB

it is not 'normal' at all and that is using the tecnhical meaning of the term 'normal'. homosexuality is way off the band described as 'the norm'.

but what a wase of time is it trying to explain this to you. as others have said, EVERY question is a trick question where you are concerned.

If it wasnt normal then why does it happen in other species as well? Perhaps its natures way of stopping overbreeding or something. Who knows but it occurs naturally.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #443 - Jan 9^th, 2013 at 5:43am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 5:04pm:

... wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

You have it back to front, as always, poppycock.

The gays want to be treated as if there was nuffin' remarkable about sticking blokes up themselves. They want to be judged as no different when they evidently are different. It is called the normalisation of deviance.

You see? There you go again. It is normal for them.

SOB

So if it's normal for them but abnormal for you - are they then the same as you?

(careful, trick questioin).

Its normal within species human and some other species too on this planet

SOB

So if it occurs at all, that makes it "normal?" An interesting theory, but perhaps a little inconsistent with the definition of "normal".

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nor·mal

/ˈnôrməl/

Adjective

Conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

Noun

The usual, average, or typical state or condition.

unless you can name a species where homosexuality is usual, typical or expected, I have no choice but to fail you.

Please review and resubmit.

Spot, how many of your school teachers took early retirement on stress leave

Awww disagree do you?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #444 - Jan 9^th, 2013 at 5:43am

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 7:21pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

You have it back to front, as always, poppycock.

The gays want to be treated as if there was nuffin' remarkable about sticking blokes up themselves. They want to be judged as no different when they evidently are different. It is called the normalisation of deviance.

You see? There you go again. It is normal for them.

SOB

So if it's normal for them but abnormal for you - are they then the same as you?

(careful, trick question).

Its normal within species human and some other species too on this planet

SOB

SO, as you are a human (are you?), it's normal for you, you dirty thing.

Awww disagree do you?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #445 - Jan 9^th, 2013 at 5:45am

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:40pm:

Monday morning on Radio National, on religion and violence.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/rachel-kohn-religion-and-violence/4454956

And guess what, kids? You won't believe it - research shows that religion leads to a more peaceful society!!! Research! That's, like, science, man! Unbelievable, innit? What will they think of next?

Too bad its BS. Too bad you couldn't provide a link.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #446 - Jan 9^th, 2013 at 7:38am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 5:42am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:56pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:06am:

Soren wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 8:31am:

You have it back to front, as always, poppycock.

The gays want to be treated as if there was nuffin' remarkable about sticking blokes up themselves. They want to be judged as no different when they evidently are different. It is called the normalisation of deviance.

You see? There you go again. It is normal for them.

SOB

So if it's normal for them but abnormal for you - are they then the same as you?

(careful, trick questioin).

Its normal within species human and some other species too on this planet

SOB

it is not 'normal' at all and that is using the tecnhical meaning of the term 'normal'. homosexuality is way off the band described as 'the norm'.

but what a wase of time is it trying to explain this to you. as others have said, EVERY question is a trick question where you are concerned.

If it wasnt normal then why does it happen in other species as well? Perhaps its natures way of stopping overbreeding or something. Who knows but it occurs naturally.

SOB

it is an 'erotic targetting error' , get the word: ERROR. it is not normal; it is a statsitcally small aberration.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40757 Gender:	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #447 - Jan 9^th, 2013 at 7:52am Bobby - it seems you have received many good honest answers here. it's up to you if you accept them or not.
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gold_medal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3897 Gender:	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #448 - Jan 9^th, 2013 at 8:14am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 7:52am: Bobby - it seems you have received many good honest answers here. it's up to you if you accept them or not. he wont. he only believes in the 'word of nail' it makes he look rather silly.
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #449 - Jan 9^th, 2013 at 9:32am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 5:42am:

If it wasnt normal then why does it happen in other species as well? Perhaps its natures way of stopping overbreeding or something. Who knows but it occurs naturally.

SOB

Brilliant.

Illness happens naturally so it is as good as health?
Some people and animals abandon their offsprtings so that's OK, coz it happens.
People call you a phosphorecent cretin and that's ok. It may be their way of trying to tell you something. WHo knows but it occurs spontaneously and naturally. Do you disagree?

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