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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #555 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:49am

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:16am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:51am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:36am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:59am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:59am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:55am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:50am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:19am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:15am:

If people with to be Christian (which I am) then what harm is it to anyone?

Christians believe in some things, if others don't then fine.

But why the need to bash Christianity and show all this fury towards people for believing in something?

My point was about him trying to "convert me".

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He's not trying to convert you, idiot. He's giving you an understanding of what it might mean to be Christian - an answer you asked for.

Didnt you read his post?

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Miss Borg, I also read the post but unlike you I understood it.

Explain it then miss k

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Do you want me to wipe your arse too?

Ahh so you were lying and didnt actually understand it then?

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This is for you Miss Borg.

Seriously stop trolling me. Your obsession is ridiculous. I told you im not interested.

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Reply #556 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 12:01pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:46am:

Soren wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:53am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:37am:

atheism is is a lack of belief in a deity.

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:56am:

Its not "anti xtian" to not believe it and to think its silly to believe in invisible beings that control your life.
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As your own posts demonstrate, atheism is not a lack of believe in a deity (a passive thing, an absence) but a disbelief, an active thing of not believing something - and thereby believing somethjing else.

SO in that sense atheism IS a form of belief, a belief that there is no deity - and not simply a lack of belief either way.

Nope. You cant change the meaning. Atheist means lacking a belief in a deity.

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Read your own words, Nicola.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #558 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:19pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 5:16pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

Jesus preached love and forgiveness, some of his last words as he was sacrificed on the Cross were, "forgive them father for they know not what they do."

Increasingly I have asked God to enter my life. I have been answered by an inner strength which has helped me cope with a year of personal crisis.

Religion is a personal thing. I wouldn't criticise anyone for their beliefs, all I can say is that if you ask Christ for help, he will provide.

yes, I had a similar experience with Jesus.
Mine was more a "sudden and dramatic" change.
Same difference as yours.

Hi SOB, have found them. Arouond pg 14 or 15.

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Reply #559 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:20pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 5:16pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

Jesus preached love and forgiveness, some of his last words as he was sacrificed on the Cross were, "forgive them father for they know not what they do."

Increasingly I have asked God to enter my life. I have been answered by an inner strength which has helped me cope with a year of personal crisis.

Religion is a personal thing. I wouldn't criticise anyone for their beliefs, all I can say is that if you ask Christ for help, he will provide.

yes, I had a similar experience with Jesus.
Mine was more a "sudden and dramatic" change.
Same difference as yours.

Hi SOB, have found them. At about pg 14 or 15

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #560 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:25pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:19pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 5:16pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

Jesus preached love and forgiveness, some of his last words as he was sacrificed on the Cross were, "forgive them father for they know not what they do."

Increasingly I have asked God to enter my life. I have been answered by an inner strength which has helped me cope with a year of personal crisis.

Religion is a personal thing. I wouldn't criticise anyone for their beliefs, all I can say is that if you ask Christ for help, he will provide.

yes, I had a similar experience with Jesus.
Mine was more a "sudden and dramatic" change.
Same difference as yours.

Hi SOB, have found them. Arouond pg 14 or 15.

Okay thanks

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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #561 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:49pm Jesus never said anything that rightards like longweekend try to ascribe to him...he was a pacifist who clearly condemned people like him in his teachings and defended the poor...the rightards true teachers are Hitler...Howard, Abbott and Gillard...
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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #562 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:57pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 6:14pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 5:58pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 5:48pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 5:45pm:

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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:

Ethics

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Nice graphic SOB. Perhaps you should heed your own advice. I have not seen anyone here try to do this as much as you.

But I still haven't seen you post a rational response to the fact that religious people donate more of their time and money to charity than atheists.

Have you provided any evidence for the proposition? Its prolly not even true.

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Sure spot. We have been discussing the evidence with you in at least two other threads in the last few days. Have you forgotten already?

What threads? Threads i am not even participating in? WTF are you talking about?

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memory loss worse today?

Well liar did you link to those threads?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #563 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:59pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 1:20pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 5:16pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 6^th, 2013 at 4:39pm:

Jesus preached love and forgiveness, some of his last words as he was sacrificed on the Cross were, "forgive them father for they know not what they do."

Increasingly I have asked God to enter my life. I have been answered by an inner strength which has helped me cope with a year of personal crisis.

Religion is a personal thing. I wouldn't criticise anyone for their beliefs, all I can say is that if you ask Christ for help, he will provide.

yes, I had a similar experience with Jesus.
Mine was more a "sudden and dramatic" change.
Same difference as yours.

Hi SOB, have found them. At about pg 14 or 15

Cant find it - just freediver and longy lying.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #564 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:03pm

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:22am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:20am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 6:29pm:

So. 34 pages so far and nobody has told us what it means to be an xtian these days.

SOB

i imagine for a lot of them , it means finding peace and happiness through surrendering their own small ego's to a greater power. very similar to the concept of AA.

if constantly bickering with people on the internet is not leading you to a feeling of peace and happiness, it might be worth a shot.

as coprorate whitey (in a rare moment of lucidity Wink

said)
the sermon on the mount might be a good place to start.

i would imagine christianity is about having a one on one relationship with christ, not a one on one relationship with some power freak bishop of the inquisition Wink

for bobby et al to be constantly going on about witches and devil worship, whilst at the same time insisting that the bible is the WORD.
well i cant even find the word witch in the bible (not that ive looked).

i agree totally with gold medal re using the internet as a research tool.
you would fail a grade 7 assignment for using even a very good source like wikipedia.

you google witch + devil + evil christian and you'll get as much lunacy as you can handle. a rhesus monkey could publish those results.

read the sermon on the mount, find a nice mountaintop to meditate on and mull it over for a few hours. Wink

Quote:

Exodus 22:18

King James Version (KJV)

18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

thx bobby, there you go.

i never knew that .

cheers,

No worries,
any more help you'd like with the Bible? - feel free to ask.

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Reply #565 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:43pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:56am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:51am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:19am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:15am:

If people with to be Christian (which I am) then what harm is it to anyone?

Christians believe in some things, if others don't then fine.

But why the need to bash Christianity and show all this fury towards people for believing in something?

My point was about him trying to "convert me".

SOB

Nonsense, you take an anti-Christian view on hundreds of posts.
If you don't believe in Christianity then fine, but if others want to - why take such an opposing view to them?

It's no different to the Greens Party.
They dislike the Church and will oppose something just because the Church supports it.

Its not "anti xtian" to not believe it and to think its silly to believe in invisible beings that control your life. I couldn't care less if you believe in it but its funny all the same.

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They are called paranormal friends & every Christian has one.

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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? Reply #566 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:51pm Q) What does it mean to be a Christian these days ? A) For me? About the same as it did in days gone bye, which is nothing, BECAUSE I'M NOT A BELIEVER, never has been & never will be!
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Reply #567 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:54pm

perceptions_now wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:51pm:

Q) What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?

A) For me? About the same as it did in days gone bye, which is nothing, BECAUSE I'M NOT A BELIEVER, never has been & never will be!

But Perceptions - aren't you worried about being cast forever into hellfire & damnation?

Surely this is the fate of non-believers?

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Reply #568 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:26pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 6:29pm:

well i cant even find the word witch in the bible (not that ive looked).

And to think that you are not joking, that you are really, really this fooking stupid at 50!

You should have a dirty big grant from Bill Gates, or a certificate from the Guinness Book of Records, that's how monumentally, peerlessly stupid you are - you can't find something you haven't looked for!

It is a lack of finding, innit, Nicola? Stupendous, staggering, un-smacking-believable.

Do you disagree? Or I should say, do you lack agreement?

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Reply #569 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:29pm

Bible, King James Version

10 matches.

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Exod.22
1.[18] Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Deut.18
1.[10] There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

1Sam.15
1.[23] For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

2Kgs.9
1.[22] And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?

2Chr.33
1.[6] And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

Mic.5
1.[12] And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more soothsayers:

Nah.3
1.[4] Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the wellfavoured harlot, the mistress of witchcrafts, that selleth nations through her whoredoms, and families through her witchcrafts.

Wis.12
1.[4] Whom thou hatedst for doing most odious works of witchcrafts, and wicked sacrifices;

Gal.5
1.[20] Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

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