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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #60 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:21am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:54am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 11:21pm:

Does anyone know ??

Here's my definition of a Christian,

A Christian is an arrogant fool which turns up at the same place and at the same time every Sunday paying an even bigger fool to read them fairy tales out of an old book written some 2000 years ago by an even bigger fool or fools !!

Sound familiar ? I think we all know somebody that fits that description here. Hey longloser do you copy Grin

An interesting observation of Christianity is, though, the concept of charity is still alive and well. It is Christian organisations feeding and clothing the homeless and poor. Can you name any secular organisation (government handouts do not count) that does such things?

It is very interesting that while atheist left-leaning intellectuals claim to be the representation of 'equality' and 'egalitarianism', and paint Christians as 'stupid' and 'evil' fools, you do not see any atheist organisations clothing and feeding the homeless and poor.

There is something in that the average Joe should think about.

What a load of crap. There arent any "atheist organisations" because it is just the lack of belief in a deity.

SOB

Still repeating this drivel. Roll Eyes

Well, you see if these "atheists" actually gave a poo about feeding the poor, they could start a "feeding the poor" organisation, rather than an "atheist organisation". But they don't. Angry

Because for them, preening and puffing is better than action.

It is not the job of Athiests or Agnostics to feed the poor, although I know many do, however, it IS the job of Christians to feed the poor. They have declared publicly that they will follow in the teachings of Christ by becoming Christians.

Churches are obliged to feed the poor, all others are not.

Then why on earth do the chattering classes claim to be the bastions of equality and egalitarianism? If it's not their job, then they ought to stop talking as if it is.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #61 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:22am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:17am:

Longweekend,
we all contribute far more than the 10% tithe by way of tax.

This money goes to social security to feed & house the poor.

What is your problem?

very very little of it goes to the genuinely poor that the Chuches help. if you think your taxes are an alternative to a social conscience then congratulations - you have none.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #62 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:25am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:21am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:54am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 11:21pm:

Does anyone know ??

Here's my definition of a Christian,

A Christian is an arrogant fool which turns up at the same place and at the same time every Sunday paying an even bigger fool to read them fairy tales out of an old book written some 2000 years ago by an even bigger fool or fools !!

Sound familiar ? I think we all know somebody that fits that description here. Hey longloser do you copy Grin

An interesting observation of Christianity is, though, the concept of charity is still alive and well. It is Christian organisations feeding and clothing the homeless and poor. Can you name any secular organisation (government handouts do not count) that does such things?

It is very interesting that while atheist left-leaning intellectuals claim to be the representation of 'equality' and 'egalitarianism', and paint Christians as 'stupid' and 'evil' fools, you do not see any atheist organisations clothing and feeding the homeless and poor.

There is something in that the average Joe should think about.

What a load of crap. There arent any "atheist organisations" because it is just the lack of belief in a deity.

SOB

Still repeating this drivel. Roll Eyes

Well, you see if these "atheists" actually gave a poo about feeding the poor, they could start a "feeding the poor" organisation, rather than an "atheist organisation". But they don't. Angry

Because for them, preening and puffing is better than action.

It is not the job of Athiests or Agnostics to feed the poor, although I know many do, however, it IS the job of Christians to feed the poor. They have declared publicly that they will follow in the teachings of Christ by becoming Christians.

Churches are obliged to feed the poor, all others are not.

Then why on earth do the chattering classes claim to be the bastions of equality and egalitarianism? If it's not their job, then they ought to stop talking as if it is.

its the same concept as the Greens. Come Clean Up day their are the elderly and the conservatives along with the union members out cleaning up the rivers and parks while the latte-sipping Greens sit around doing nothing.

its a common principle that those that talk about issues usually do nothing about it while the silent majority just get on with the job.

Our church renovated the Children's Cancer centre plus provides parties for the kids. we also renovated a floor of the Children's Hospital and a section of the Women's Prison. I don't see the atheists doing that.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #63 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:28am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:17am:

Longweekend,
we all contribute far more than the 10% tithe by way of tax.

This money goes to social security to feed & house the poor.

What is your problem?

very very little of it goes to the genuinely poor that the Chuches help. if you think your taxes are an alternative to a social conscience then congratulations - you have none.

Dear Longy,
I pay such heavy taxes that I feel no need to contribute more for the poor.
I consider myself to be one of the poor - the working poor.

I don't live at Point Piper like the rich.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #64 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:31am

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:20am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:54am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 11:21pm:

Does anyone know ??

Here's my definition of a Christian,

A Christian is an arrogant fool which turns up at the same place and at the same time every Sunday paying an even bigger fool to read them fairy tales out of an old book written some 2000 years ago by an even bigger fool or fools !!

Sound familiar ? I think we all know somebody that fits that description here. Hey longloser do you copy Grin

An interesting observation of Christianity is, though, the concept of charity is still alive and well. It is Christian organisations feeding and clothing the homeless and poor. Can you name any secular organisation (government handouts do not count) that does such things?

It is very interesting that while atheist left-leaning intellectuals claim to be the representation of 'equality' and 'egalitarianism', and paint Christians as 'stupid' and 'evil' fools, you do not see any atheist organisations clothing and feeding the homeless and poor.

There is something in that the average Joe should think about.

What a load of crap. There arent any "atheist organisations" because it is just the lack of belief in a deity.

SOB

Still repeating this drivel. Roll Eyes

Well, you see if these "atheists" actually gave a poo about feeding the poor, they could start a "feeding the poor" organisation, rather than an "atheist organisation". But they don't. Angry

Because for them, preening and puffing is better than action.

It is not the job of Athiests or Agnostics to feed the poor, although I know many do, however, it IS the job of Christians to feed the poor. They have declared publicly that they will follow in the teachings of Christ by becoming Christians.

Churches are obliged to feed the poor, all others are not.

Right. So what IS the job of atheists or agnostics? I mean, besides puffing and preening and sneering at those less trendy? They do tend to expend a lot of wind blathering about 'social justice' and 'equality' but I just don't see much in the way of action. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places.

Atheists and agnostics dont have a job - since all it means is lack of belief in a deity.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #65 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:31am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:47am:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:43am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:40am:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:30am:

It was only recently that government usurped the role of charity, and it wasn't for benevolent reasons.

and what charity was the catholic church offering during 600 years of the Inquisition ? They were stealing money from people after torturing them to death and certainly not giving any !! A fine charitable history that is Sad

Dunno, but that was the catholic church 600 years ago. This topic is about all christian denominations today. Do you have anything a bit more....relevant to bring to the table?

if churches lived by their bible then why on earth did these churches have their money stashed away in a foreign bank instead of doling it out to the needy ??

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/debt-crisis-could-cost-charities-millions/20...

if churches secular intellectuals lived by their bible preacing then why on earth did these churches intellectuals have their money stashed away in a foreign bank instead of doling it out to the needy ??

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #66 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:33am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:28am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:17am:

Longweekend,
we all contribute far more than the 10% tithe by way of tax.

This money goes to social security to feed & house the poor.

What is your problem?

very very little of it goes to the genuinely poor that the Churches help. if you think your taxes are an alternative to a social conscience then congratulations - you have none.

Dear Longy,
I pay such heavy taxes that I feel no need to contribute more for the poor.
I consider myself to be one of the poor - the working poor.

I don't live at Point Piper like the rich.

so don't contribute money. contribute TIME. go work at a shelter or feed the homeless or help a church wrap up presents for the poor at Christmas time.

but you wont. the reality is that you talk the talk but when asked to actually HELP the poor and needy you are just like the rest of the atheists. NOT INTERESTED.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #67 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:34am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:31am:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:20am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:54am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 11:21pm:

Does anyone know ??

Here's my definition of a Christian,

A Christian is an arrogant fool which turns up at the same place and at the same time every Sunday paying an even bigger fool to read them fairy tales out of an old book written some 2000 years ago by an even bigger fool or fools !!

Sound familiar ? I think we all know somebody that fits that description here. Hey longloser do you copy Grin

An interesting observation of Christianity is, though, the concept of charity is still alive and well. It is Christian organisations feeding and clothing the homeless and poor. Can you name any secular organisation (government handouts do not count) that does such things?

It is very interesting that while atheist left-leaning intellectuals claim to be the representation of 'equality' and 'egalitarianism', and paint Christians as 'stupid' and 'evil' fools, you do not see any atheist organisations clothing and feeding the homeless and poor.

There is something in that the average Joe should think about.

What a load of crap. There arent any "atheist organisations" because it is just the lack of belief in a deity.

SOB

Still repeating this drivel. Roll Eyes

Well, you see if these "atheists" actually gave a poo about feeding the poor, they could start a "feeding the poor" organisation, rather than an "atheist organisation". But they don't. Angry

Because for them, preening and puffing is better than action.

It is not the job of Athiests or Agnostics to feed the poor, although I know many do, however, it IS the job of Christians to feed the poor. They have declared publicly that they will follow in the teachings of Christ by becoming Christians.

Churches are obliged to feed the poor, all others are not.

Right. So what IS the job of atheists or agnostics? I mean, besides puffing and preening and sneering at those less trendy? They do tend to expend a lot of wind blathering about 'social justice' and 'equality' but I just don't see much in the way of action. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places.

Atheists and agnostics dont have a job - since all it means is lack of belief in a deity.

SOB

do you ahve the SLIGHTEST idea what this topic is about?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #68 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:36am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:25am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:21am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 10:17am:

... wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:58am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:54am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 11:21pm:

Does anyone know ??

Here's my definition of a Christian,

A Christian is an arrogant fool which turns up at the same place and at the same time every Sunday paying an even bigger fool to read them fairy tales out of an old book written some 2000 years ago by an even bigger fool or fools !!

Sound familiar ? I think we all know somebody that fits that description here. Hey longloser do you copy Grin

An interesting observation of Christianity is, though, the concept of charity is still alive and well. It is Christian organisations feeding and clothing the homeless and poor. Can you name any secular organisation (government handouts do not count) that does such things?

It is very interesting that while atheist left-leaning intellectuals claim to be the representation of 'equality' and 'egalitarianism', and paint Christians as 'stupid' and 'evil' fools, you do not see any atheist organisations clothing and feeding the homeless and poor.

There is something in that the average Joe should think about.

What a load of crap. There arent any "atheist organisations" because it is just the lack of belief in a deity.

SOB

Still repeating this drivel. Roll Eyes

Well, you see if these "atheists" actually gave a poo about feeding the poor, they could start a "feeding the poor" organisation, rather than an "atheist organisation". But they don't. Angry

Because for them, preening and puffing is better than action.

It is not the job of Athiests or Agnostics to feed the poor, although I know many do, however, it IS the job of Christians to feed the poor. They have declared publicly that they will follow in the teachings of Christ by becoming Christians.

Churches are obliged to feed the poor, all others are not.

Then why on earth do the chattering classes claim to be the bastions of equality and egalitarianism? If it's not their job, then they ought to stop talking as if it is.

its the same concept as the Greens. Come Clean Up day their are the elderly and the conservatives along with the union members out cleaning up the rivers and parks while the latte-sipping Greens sit around doing nothing.

its a common principle that those that talk about issues usually do nothing about it while the silent majority just get on with the job.

Our church renovated the Children's Cancer centre plus provides parties for the kids. we also renovated a floor of the Children's Hospital and a section of the Women's Prison. I don't see the atheists doing that.

Yeah, I am familiar with their attitude. Working in the education sector I see these preaching, but no action, 'egalitarians' all the time. And it's the very people they lambaste, the Christians, who do most of the charity work.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #69 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:40am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:28am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:17am:

Longweekend,
we all contribute far more than the 10% tithe by way of tax.

This money goes to social security to feed & house the poor.

What is your problem?

very very little of it goes to the genuinely poor that the Churches help. if you think your taxes are an alternative to a social conscience then congratulations - you have none.

Dear Longy,
I pay such heavy taxes that I feel no need to contribute more for the poor.
I consider myself to be one of the poor - the working poor.

I don't live at Point Piper like the rich.

so don't contribute money. contribute TIME. go work at a shelter or feed the homeless or help a church wrap up presents for the poor at Christmas time.

but you wont. the reality is that you talk the talk but when asked to actually HELP the poor and needy you are just like the rest of the atheists. NOT INTERESTED.

Dear Longy,
I will volunteer my time when I am retired.
It's a bit much to ask me when I'm working fulltime isn't it?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #70 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:41am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:40am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:28am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:17am:

Longweekend,
we all contribute far more than the 10% tithe by way of tax.

This money goes to social security to feed & house the poor.

What is your problem?

very very little of it goes to the genuinely poor that the Churches help. if you think your taxes are an alternative to a social conscience then congratulations - you have none.

Dear Longy,
I pay such heavy taxes that I feel no need to contribute more for the poor.
I consider myself to be one of the poor - the working poor.

I don't live at Point Piper like the rich.

so don't contribute money. contribute TIME. go work at a shelter or feed the homeless or help a church wrap up presents for the poor at Christmas time.

but you wont. the reality is that you talk the talk but when asked to actually HELP the poor and needy you are just like the rest of the atheists. NOT INTERESTED.

Dear Longy,
I will volunteer my time when I am retired.
It's a bit much to ask me when I'm working fulltime isn't it?

forgiven

namaste

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #71 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:44am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:05am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 11:21pm:

Does anyone know ??

Here's my definition of a Christian,

A Christian is an arrogant fool which turns up at the same place and at the same time every Sunday paying an even bigger fool to read them fairy tales out of an old book written some 2000 years ago by an even bigger fool or fools !!

Sound familiar ? I think we all know somebody that fits that description here. Hey longloser do you copy Grin

An interesting observation of Christianity is, though, the concept of charity is still alive and well. It is Christian organisations feeding and clothing the homeless and poor. Can you name any secular organisation (government handouts do not count) that does such things?

It is very interesting that while atheist left-leaning intellectuals claim to be the representation of 'equality' and 'egalitarianism', and paint Christians as 'stupid' and 'evil' fools, you do not see any atheist organisations clothing and feeding the homeless and poor.

There is something in that the average Joe should think about.

lets not forget that for 1800 of the last 2000 years, all music, art and science came from the Church. Also, all schooling and universities were church run. Most private schools now are Church run. Welfare was first begun by the church and it is only recently that govt got into the act.

The symbol for the medical profession coems straight out of the Bible and again, until recently ALL hospitals were church run and all doctors and nurses, church trained.

Atheists write books (and start threads) decrying God while Christians feed the poor and love the unlovely. Who do you think looks after the homeless now? it aint government.

the only reason ANYTHING has come from the church is because there wasnt anything else. If you declared you were an atheist you got locked away or killed so nobody admitted it. Primitive. Long ago. We have outgrown it now.

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #73 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:47am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:06am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:54am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 4^th, 2013 at 11:21pm:

Does anyone know ??

Here's my definition of a Christian,

A Christian is an arrogant fool which turns up at the same place and at the same time every Sunday paying an even bigger fool to read them fairy tales out of an old book written some 2000 years ago by an even bigger fool or fools !!

Sound familiar ? I think we all know somebody that fits that description here. Hey longloser do you copy Grin

An interesting observation of Christianity is, though, the concept of charity is still alive and well. It is Christian organisations feeding and clothing the homeless and poor. Can you name any secular organisation (government handouts do not count) that does such things?

It is very interesting that while atheist left-leaning intellectuals claim to be the representation of 'equality' and 'egalitarianism', and paint Christians as 'stupid' and 'evil' fools, you do not see any atheist organisations clothing and feeding the homeless and poor.

There is something in that the average Joe should think about.

What a load of crap. There arent any "atheist organisations" because it is just the lack of belief in a deity.

SOB

way to go for proving his point!

What are you talking about?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Christian these days ?
Reply #74 - Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:48am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:40am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:28am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:22am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 5^th, 2013 at 11:17am:

Longweekend,
we all contribute far more than the 10% tithe by way of tax.

This money goes to social security to feed & house the poor.

What is your problem?

very very little of it goes to the genuinely poor that the Churches help. if you think your taxes are an alternative to a social conscience then congratulations - you have none.

Dear Longy,
I pay such heavy taxes that I feel no need to contribute more for the poor.
I consider myself to be one of the poor - the working poor.

I don't live at Point Piper like the rich.

so don't contribute money. contribute TIME. go work at a shelter or feed the homeless or help a church wrap up presents for the poor at Christmas time.

but you wont. the reality is that you talk the talk but when asked to actually HELP the poor and needy you are just like the rest of the atheists. NOT INTERESTED.

Dear Longy,
I will volunteer my time when I am retired.
It's a bit much to ask me when I'm working fulltime isn't it?

forgiven

namaste

No...

What a troll you are.
As if you're out there helping all the homeless beggars.

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