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Reply #105 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:00pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:01am:

Do we all understand that he was using cab charge instead of having a personal car provided and often having a chauffeur driven Limo on standby for his use?

The fact is that even though if true this abuse is not supportable in any way that he has probably saved us a lot of money on his legitimate transport over the years.

By the way - I have seen chauffeur driven government Limo's at the wineries and restrauants.

that from what I read is what he is being charged with by the AFP...misuse of cabcharge..it said he knew full well he was not allowed to use it for said purpose..so one presumes the AFP have got that right....I mean he has been charged...

one assumes that if comcar is available then thats what he should use... might ask daughter who used to work at comcar.....

I suspect that it is optional, and cheaper.

DNA... THEY HAVE RULES ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL HE HAS TO DO IS CLAIM IT WAS CHEAPER???????.. DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR MPs WORRY ABOUT CHEAP!

as for seeing these cars at wineries doesnt mean they shouldnt be there..it could be official.. [ well it could be}..

but using a Taxi for the purpose I doubt it would be official..

I would think that either could be official or not - there is no reason to connect the function of the visit with the mode of transoprt.

WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS MONEY FROM THE GOVT THERE HAS TO BE A REASON FOR DOING SO..ie.. CABFARE TO WINERY...SOUNDS LIKE A PRIVATE VISIT...we do not know how much the fare was... he may have had the taxi wait..
what would you concider to be abuse then dna??

the fact he used a TAXI to go to winery ??

If he didn't have a valid reason he is probably done.

or the fact he dished out extra cabchecks... blank ones.?

Is he going to court about that? My belief is that the accusation was withdrawn?

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN???

dna its ok to give this the benefit of the doubt.. but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not?

but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not

He was a good speaker and he may have saved us some money on his transport bills. On the other side of the coin apparently he had a history of misuse of his allowances a history of sexualy impropriety and significant issues, it looks like he may also have a case of potty mouth.

I believe that a balanced view is mostly closer to the mark.

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Reply #106 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election. That took courage, which Gillard refused to show over the carbon tax.

I would take Abbott any day over Gillard, but I still don't really think that he will make a good PM. I would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

I just think that both sides of politics is dreadful at the moment, and yes, while I want the Coalition to win the election, it's through default of wanting rid of Labor, not because I like them.

It's a choice of the lesser of two evils. At least that's how I feel.

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

In my view a class down on Gillard and debatable with Abbott.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election.

He went for the GST because the Labor opposition was a shambles and he believed he could get away with his famous lie.

He went to an early election for the same reason - tactically he thought it was his best chance of winning.

would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

In my view if Turnbull were a better choice than Abbott it would not be by much and he would not be in front of anyone else.

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Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Reply #107 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:20pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:46am:

[quote] I don't rule out the possibility of a conservative independent as long as I'm convinced of their ethics.

Dnaever

Conservative independents ???, Hmmmmmm referring to BOB KATTER, ???? or maybe you are impressed with Tony windsor ???, quite frankly self righteous independents of any poltical persuasion like Windsor, Oakshoft and Wilkie, HAVE DIRTIED THE NOTION OF INDEPEDENTS FOR SOME TIME NOW,

Agreed.

I am so dissatisfied with all of them, I am thinking for the first time ever to just get my name marked off and not put anything, or maybe not even go and just pay the fine.

we are doing it tough regarding respect for our Politicians...

and I blame gillard for that... she has lowered the standards even more than they have been...like supporting THOMO and slipper..just small things.. but in my opinion they should have been stood down the moment an investigation was announced...but NO.. their votes were important and thats more important.. than honor and integrity..

I dont blame you for feeling like you do..I have felt the same a few times..Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

this lot have gone over our heads on more than one occasion..giving all future govt the same options..I dont like it either

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election. That took courage, which Gillard refused to show over the carbon tax.

I would take Abbott any day over Gillard, but I still don't really think that he will make a good PM. I would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

I just think that both sides of politics is dreadful at the moment, and yes, while I want the Coalition to win the election, it's through default of wanting rid of Labor, not because I like them.

It's a choice of the lesser of two evils. At least that's how I feel.[/quote]

in all honesty ITS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT..

trouble is now with the way this govt has lowered the standards.. its more obvious..

thats what bothers me..

she blatantly lied before the election...if as she says it wasnt a lie.. it was definitely meant to mislead...

do we really care,what its called. a price or a tax??...as with the compensation it was clear we would pay for it..

none of this was discussed before the election..

at leastr I dont recall hearing.

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD

BUT THERE WILL BE COMPENSATION..

maybe you did.

it at the very least is misleading..I call it a lie.. but to each his own..

We havent given Abbott a chance we have given gillard a chance....didnt rudd say fair suck of the sauce bottle... or something like that.

from what I read and hear.. gillard has lost o lot of respect.. even in her own party almost half dont want her..so why should we??..

its not long now and we will know from both sides what we can expect.. i hope it doesn t go down the dirt trail...thats a real put off..

but wait and see john..

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Reply #108 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:22pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

as the last 3 independents all went the opposite way to the wishes of their electorate what makes you think you can TRUST them when push comes to shove..

I have always said they voted labor because they feared Abbott would call an early election...and they wanted the 5 min...

not my idea of being honest or trustworthy

They all made what they believed to be the best decision for their electorate - and were correct.

They were elected to make the decision s they made not to make assumption about what people who didn't vote for them in the first place want them to do.

Abbott was always a terrible option for Australia - these guys knew that fact.

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Reply #109 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

class? the election clearly showed people didn't want the GST

he bribed the democrats to jump ship and introduced the GST despite the fact that the wishes of the elctorate were clearly against it. About as much class as a corrupt policeman has in my books.

The Coalition got back in with a majority of 80 seats, and the Democrats did promise to "keep the bastards honest", so I am not seeing your point here.

And before you call me biased or whatever, bear in mind that I voted Labor in 1998.

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Reply #110 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:26pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:01am:

Do we all understand that he was using cab charge instead of having a personal car provided and often having a chauffeur driven Limo on standby for his use?

The fact is that even though if true this abuse is not supportable in any way that he has probably saved us a lot of money on his legitimate transport over the years.

By the way - I have seen chauffeur driven government Limo's at the wineries and restrauants.

that from what I read is what he is being charged with by the AFP...misuse of cabcharge..it said he knew full well he was not allowed to use it for said purpose..so one presumes the AFP have got that right....I mean he has been charged...

one assumes that if comcar is available then thats what he should use... might ask daughter who used to work at comcar.....

I suspect that it is optional, and cheaper.

DNA... THEY HAVE RULES ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL HE HAS TO DO IS CLAIM IT WAS CHEAPER???????.. DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR MPs WORRY ABOUT CHEAP!

as for seeing these cars at wineries doesnt mean they shouldnt be there..it could be official.. [ well it could be}..

but using a Taxi for the purpose I doubt it would be official..

I would think that either could be official or not - there is no reason to connect the function of the visit with the mode of transoprt.

WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS MONEY FROM THE GOVT THERE HAS TO BE A REASON FOR DOING SO..ie.. CABFARE TO WINERY...SOUNDS LIKE A PRIVATE VISIT...we do not know how much the fare was... he may have had the taxi wait..
what would you concider to be abuse then dna??

the fact he used a TAXI to go to winery ??

If he didn't have a valid reason he is probably done.

or the fact he dished out extra cabchecks... blank ones.?

Is he going to court about that? My belief is that the accusation was withdrawn?

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN???

dna its ok to give this the benefit of the doubt.. but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not?

but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not

He was a good speaker and he may have saved us some money on his transport bills. On the other side of the coin apparently he had a history of misuse of his allowances a history of sexualy impropriety and significant issues, it looks like he may also have a case of potty mouth.

I believe that a balanced view is mostly closer to the mark.

you are funny dna... so you dont mind someone who has a penchant for putting his hand in the till... sexual impropriety .. potty mouth...

but as long as he appears to save the commonwealth a few dollars..

he deserves at least a balanced view....

hilarious.

he wasnt in the job of speaker that long,to really give him that much credit..I would think that job is quite precarious..I didnt think he did too bad for the time he was there..

but that doesnt excuse anything he has been accused of.. sorry..they take an OATH.. I would think becoming speaker he would taken another OATH...

sorry mate but this guy doesnt seem to have learnt much with the shame of already having to repay money from travel rorts..

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Reply #111 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:26pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:14am:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:01am:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:01am:

Do we all understand that he was using cab charge instead of having a personal car provided and often having a chauffeur driven Limo on standby for his use?

The fact is that even though if true this abuse is not supportable in any way that he has probably saved us a lot of money on his legitimate transport over the years.

By the way - I have seen chauffeur driven government Limo's at the wineries and restrauants.

that from what I read is what he is being charged with by the AFP...misuse of cabcharge..it said he knew full well he was not allowed to use it for said purpose..so one presumes the AFP have got that right....I mean he has been charged...

one assumes that if comcar is available then thats what he should use... might ask daughter who used to work at comcar.....

I suspect that it is optional, and cheaper.

DNA... THEY HAVE RULES ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL HE HAS TO DO IS CLAIM IT WAS CHEAPER???????.. DO YOU REALLY THINK OUR MPs WORRY ABOUT CHEAP!

as for seeing these cars at wineries doesnt mean they shouldnt be there..it could be official.. [ well it could be}..

but using a Taxi for the purpose I doubt it would be official..

I would think that either could be official or not - there is no reason to connect the function of the visit with the mode of transoprt.

WHEN SOMEONE CLAIMS MONEY FROM THE GOVT THERE HAS TO BE A REASON FOR DOING SO..ie.. CABFARE TO WINERY...SOUNDS LIKE A PRIVATE VISIT...we do not know how much the fare was... he may have had the taxi wait..
what would you concider to be abuse then dna??

the fact he used a TAXI to go to winery ??

If he didn't have a valid reason he is probably done.

or the fact he dished out extra cabchecks... blank ones.?

Is he going to court about that? My belief is that the accusation was withdrawn?

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN???

dna its ok to give this the benefit of the doubt.. but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not?

but to give slipper credit for saving the commonwealth money......surely not

He was a good speaker and he may have saved us some money on his transport bills. On the other side of the coin apparently he had a history of misuse of his allowances a history of sexualy impropriety and significant issues, it looks like he may also have a case of potty mouth.

I believe that a balanced view is mostly closer to the mark.

He's a sleaze.

People say that Slipper was a good Speaker, but wasn't Jenkins also?

Jenkins also comes across as a good man. Something that Slipper doesn't.

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Reply #112 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election. That took courage, which Gillard refused to show over the carbon tax.

I would take Abbott any day over Gillard, but I still don't really think that he will make a good PM. I would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

I just think that both sides of politics is dreadful at the moment, and yes, while I want the Coalition to win the election, it's through default of wanting rid of Labor, not because I like them.

It's a choice of the lesser of two evils. At least that's how I feel.

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

In my view a class down on Gillard and debatable with Abbott.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election.

He went for the GST because the Labor opposition was a shambles and he believed he could get away with his famous lie.

He went to an early election for the same reason - tactically he thought it was his best chance of winning.

would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

In my view if Turnbull were a better choice than Abbott it would not be by much and he would not be in front of anyone else.

You are entitled to your views, but I wholeheartedly disagree with them all, as we've debated before.

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Reply #113 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:32pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:20pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

stryder wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 11:46am:

[quote] I don't rule out the possibility of a conservative independent as long as I'm convinced of their ethics.

Dnaever

Conservative independents ???, Hmmmmmm referring to BOB KATTER, ???? or maybe you are impressed with Tony windsor ???, quite frankly self righteous independents of any poltical persuasion like Windsor, Oakshoft and Wilkie, HAVE DIRTIED THE NOTION OF INDEPEDENTS FOR SOME TIME NOW,

Agreed.

I am so dissatisfied with all of them, I am thinking for the first time ever to just get my name marked off and not put anything, or maybe not even go and just pay the fine.

we are doing it tough regarding respect for our Politicians...

and I blame gillard for that... she has lowered the standards even more than they have been...like supporting THOMO and slipper..just small things.. but in my opinion they should have been stood down the moment an investigation was announced...but NO.. their votes were important and thats more important.. than honor and integrity..

I dont blame you for feeling like you do..I have felt the same a few times..Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

this lot have gone over our heads on more than one occasion..giving all future govt the same options..I dont like it either

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election. That took courage, which Gillard refused to show over the carbon tax.

I would take Abbott any day over Gillard, but I still don't really think that he will make a good PM. I would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

I just think that both sides of politics is dreadful at the moment, and yes, while I want the Coalition to win the election, it's through default of wanting rid of Labor, not because I like them.

It's a choice of the lesser of two evils. At least that's how I feel.[/quote]

in all honesty ITS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT..

trouble is now with the way this govt has lowered the standards.. its more obvious..

thats what bothers me..

she blatantly lied before the election...if as she says it wasnt a lie.. it was definitely meant to mislead...

do we really care,what its called. a price or a tax??...as with the compensation it was clear we would pay for it..

none of this was discussed before the election..

at leastr I dont recall hearing.

THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD

BUT THERE WILL BE COMPENSATION..

maybe you did.

it at the very least is misleading..I call it a lie.. but to each his own..

We havent given Abbott a chance we have given gillard a chance....didnt rudd say fair suck of the sauce bottle... or something like that.

from what I read and hear.. gillard has lost o lot of respect.. even in her own party almost half dont want her..so why should we??..

its not long now and we will know from both sides what we can expect.. i hope it doesn t go down the dirt trail...thats a real put off..

but wait and see john..

I agree for the most part, cods, but I do not think that every election has been about choosing the lesser of two evils. I just think that Gillard and Abbott qre the worst simultaneous candidates for the top position.

In fairness, you are correct that Abbott hasn't been given a chance, and I know that you like him (correct me if wrong) and I respect that. It's just that I don't think he will be that great.

I would take him any day, any time and anywhere over Gillard, but that's not saying much, given that I despise the woman more than any other PM in history.

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Reply #114 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:35pm

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:22pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 4:51pm:

as the last 3 independents all went the opposite way to the wishes of their electorate what makes you think you can TRUST them when push comes to shove..

I have always said they voted labor because they feared Abbott would call an early election...and they wanted the 5 min...

not my idea of being honest or trustworthy

They all made what they believed to be the best decision for their electorate - and were correct.

HAHA GLAD YOU THINK LIKE THAT... ABBOTT ALSO PROMISED THEIR ELECTORATES THE THINGS THEY ASKED FOR..[ IS THAT REALLY WHAT YOU CALL GOOD GOVT??]

BUT HE WOULDNT SAY HE WOULDNT CALL AN EARLY ELECTION..

They were elected to make the decision s they made not to make assumption about what people who didn't vote for them in the first place want them to do.

WHAT THE DOES THAT MEAN?

Abbott was always a terrible option for Australia - these guys knew that fact.

says you!

and he hasnt been tried so how do you know..??????????

ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IF WE HAD KNOWN ABOUT GILLARDS PAST[ AWU] THAT SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ELECTED..OUTRIGHT?

btw only one member of the left has been tried and true rudd.. so will it be him next time round.. surely you wouldnt support ex union members with shady pasts..

look at combet... he helped crash through the doors of parliament house.. and the then ACTU boss said it was the Unions finest Day... and combet was an organiser he was there.. the shops were looted what did he do to stop that???? nothing that is said in history....

yet here he is on the front bench large as life..

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Reply #115 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:37pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election. That took courage, which Gillard refused to show over the carbon tax.

I would take Abbott any day over Gillard, but I still don't really think that he will make a good PM. I would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

I just think that both sides of politics is dreadful at the moment, and yes, while I want the Coalition to win the election, it's through default of wanting rid of Labor, not because I like them.

It's a choice of the lesser of two evils. At least that's how I feel.

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

In my view a class down on Gillard and debatable with Abbott.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election.

He went for the GST because the Labor opposition was a shambles and he believed he could get away with his famous lie.

He went to an early election for the same reason - tactically he thought it was his best chance of winning.

would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

In my view if Turnbull were a better choice than Abbott it would not be by much and he would not be in front of anyone else.

You are entitled to your views, but I wholeheartedly disagree with them all, as we've debated before.

hear hear john..

at least dna doesnt get abusive and personal thank you dna..

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Reply #116 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:54pm

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

class? the election clearly showed people didn't want the GST

he bribed the democrats to jump ship and introduced the GST despite the fact that the wishes of the elctorate were clearly against it. About as much class as a corrupt policeman has in my books.

The Coalition got back in with a majority of 80 seats, and the Democrats did promise to "keep the bastards honest", so I am not seeing your point here.

And before you call me biased or whatever, bear in mind that I voted Labor in 1998.

Lol Beasley won the majority of that election but not the majority of seats. That in itself indicates the GST was far from popular. Don't try and rewrite history, we were all there too.
This poo about Gillard breaking promises et al is just bullsh it, every party does what it likes when it gets elected, it's a matter of how hypocritical you are whether you admit that or not. Gillard is no better and no worse. In my opinion Howard is a war criminal and belittled our good reputation, but the rusted on tards still cheer him on and deny the facts.

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Reply #117 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:00pm

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:37pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:17pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:12pm:

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election. That took courage, which Gillard refused to show over the carbon tax.

I would take Abbott any day over Gillard, but I still don't really think that he will make a good PM. I would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

I just think that both sides of politics is dreadful at the moment, and yes, while I want the Coalition to win the election, it's through default of wanting rid of Labor, not because I like them.

It's a choice of the lesser of two evils. At least that's how I feel.

Howard was a class above what we have now, on both sides, in my opinion.

In my view a class down on Gillard and debatable with Abbott.

I will always respect him for taking the GST to an early election.

He went for the GST because the Labor opposition was a shambles and he believed he could get away with his famous lie.

He went to an early election for the same reason - tactically he thought it was his best chance of winning.

would prefer Turnbull, but that won't happen.

In my view if Turnbull were a better choice than Abbott it would not be by much and he would not be in front of anyone else.

You are entitled to your views, but I wholeheartedly disagree with them all, as we've debated before.

hear hear john..

at least dna doesnt get abusive and personal thank you dna..

Thank you cods.

I am more than happy to respect other's opinions if they extend me the same respect.

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Reply #118 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 8:05pm

skippy. wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:54pm:

john_g wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 7:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 6:06pm:

Howard knew the GST was unpopular.. but he gave us the chance to throw it out..I say that shows class..

class? the election clearly showed people didn't want the GST

he bribed the democrats to jump ship and introduced the GST despite the fact that the wishes of the elctorate were clearly against it. About as much class as a corrupt policeman has in my books.

The Coalition got back in with a majority of 80 seats, and the Democrats did promise to "keep the bastards honest", so I am not seeing your point here.

And before you call me biased or whatever, bear in mind that I voted Labor in 1998.

Lol Beasley won the majority of that election but not the majority of seats. That in itself indicates the GST was far from popular. Don't try and rewrite history, we were all there too.
This poo about Gillard breaking promises et al is just bullsh it, every party does what it likes when it gets elected, it's a matter of how hypocritical you are whether you admit that or not. Gillard is no better and no worse. In my opinion Howard is a war criminal and belittled our good reputation, but the rusted on tards still cheer him on and deny the facts.

No argument from me, but that's how it goes in Australia. The party that gets the majority of seats, and can form a minority, wins. They won, so the GST had a fair mandate. I didn't support it, and voted for Beazley too, but Howard won.

The Coalition got a lot more votes than Labor last election, but not more seats.

I can't think of anyone breaking election promises to the same extent as Gillard.

As a side note, I think it a travesty that someone like Gillard has become PM, and not Beazley.

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Re: ohh, Peter Slipper summonsed to court
Reply #119 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 9:32pm

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Leader Julia Gillard Tony Abbott
Party Labor Liberal/National coalition
Leader since 24 June 2010 1 December 2009
Leader's seat Lalor Warringah
Last election 83 seats 65 seats
Seats won 72 seats 72 seats
Seat change 11 7
Popular
Leader Julia Gillard Tony Abbott
Party Labor Liberal/National coalition
Leader since 24 June 2010 1 December 2009
Leader's seat Lalor Warringah
Last election 83 seats 65 seats
Seats won 72 seats 72 seats
Seat change 11 7
Popular vote 6,216,445 6,185,918
Percentage 50.12% 49.88%
Swing 2 6,216,445 6,185,918
Percentage 50.12% 49.88%
Swing 2

Just another coalition lie that phony and co won more popular votes at the last election. The numbers tell it all, when I went to school 6,216,445 was a larger number than 6,185,918.

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