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Reply #15 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:39am

FriYAY wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

I still think a lot of it falls into this “warm/wet” product – not sure if it is cultural/religious – but that’s what they want.

We can have it slaughtered, packed and on their shelves quicker than shipping and slaughtering them there and the meat is far better when the animal isnt stressed for days and then slaughtered in cruel circumstances.
Given a choice Indonesians would prefer decent meat than what they are getting now..just like any other consumers

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Reply #16 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:47am

adelcrow wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

The main problem is the cattle thats produced up north is so crap we dont buy it so they passed this rubbish off to the Indonesians as Aussie Beef.
The reason why they couldnt sell it here when the bans were on is because Aussies wouldnt touch it with a barge pole.
The producers are as much a problem as the meatworks in Indonesia and if we actually sold them packaged and chilled real Aussie Beef these Northern Cattle producers would be out of business in a flash.

I'm not sure thats right.

i worry a lot more about the massive feedlots full of steroid and antibiotic fed cattle now burgeoning throughout OZ.

they may taste a bit better (as the poor buggers just stand in sh*t up to their withers all day andso are full of marbled fat) but i doubt they are that good for you,

certainly the teenagers think a big mac pattie is the best tasting beef despite being 3 per cent cow. they'd be healthier eating our live exports, i assure you

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Reply #17 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:47am

adelcrow wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

The main problem is the cattle thats produced up north is so crap we dont buy it so they passed this rubbish off to the Indonesians as Aussie Beef.
The reason why they couldnt sell it here when the bans were on is because Aussies wouldnt touch it with a barge pole.
The producers are as much a problem as the meatworks in Indonesia and if we actually sold them packaged and chilled real Aussie Beef these Northern Cattle producers would be out of business in a flash.

If you work on a cattle station its what you eat, most times better than what you buy down south. NOT STREEST TO DEATH
Been there done that Angry

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Re: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP FFS
Reply #18 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:47am

adelcrow wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

FriYAY wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

I still think a lot of it falls into this “warm/wet” product – not sure if it is cultural/religious – but that’s what they want.

We can have it slaughtered, packed and on their shelves quicker than shipping and slaughtering them there and the meat is far better when the animal isnt stressed for days and then slaughtered in cruel circumstances.
Given a choice Indonesians would prefer decent meat than what they are getting now..just like any other consumers

They want a warm wet product.

It's got nothing to do with your opinion.

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Reply #19 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:49am

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

The main problem is the cattle thats produced up north is so crap we dont buy it so they passed this rubbish off to the Indonesians as Aussie Beef.
The reason why they couldnt sell it here when the bans were on is because Aussies wouldnt touch it with a barge pole.
The producers are as much a problem as the meatworks in Indonesia and if we actually sold them packaged and chilled real Aussie Beef these Northern Cattle producers would be out of business in a flash.

I'm not sure thats right.

i worry a lot more about the massive feedlots full of steroid and antibiotic fed cattle now burgeoning throughout OZ.

they may taste a bit better (as the poor buggers just stand in sh*t up to their withers all day andso are full of marbled fat) but i doubt they are that good for you,

certainly the teenagers think a big mac pattie is the best tasting beef despite being 3 per cent cow. they'd be healthier eating our live exports, i assure you

The feed lots in our area are not like that FFS Angry

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Re: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP FFS
Reply #20 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:55am

FRED. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:49am:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

adelcrow wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:36am:

The main problem is the cattle thats produced up north is so crap we dont buy it so they passed this rubbish off to the Indonesians as Aussie Beef.
The reason why they couldnt sell it here when the bans were on is because Aussies wouldnt touch it with a barge pole.
The producers are as much a problem as the meatworks in Indonesia and if we actually sold them packaged and chilled real Aussie Beef these Northern Cattle producers would be out of business in a flash.

I'm not sure thats right.

i worry a lot more about the massive feedlots full of steroid and antibiotic fed cattle now burgeoning throughout OZ.

they may taste a bit better (as the poor buggers just stand in sh*t up to their withers all day andso are full of marbled fat) but i doubt they are that good for you,

certainly the teenagers think a big mac pattie is the best tasting beef despite being 3 per cent cow. they'd be healthier eating our live exports, i assure you

The feed lots in our area are not like that FFS Angry

you got any piccys Wink

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Re: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP FFS
Reply #21 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:57am

why does it matter WHERE THE ANIMALS COME FROM...we always hear the cry AUSTRALIAN CATTLE... I dont give a fig where they were born cruelty is cruelty.. if we cant do better than to train these countries on the ethics of animal treatment..then something is bloody wrong..if they dont like our interference dont take our overseas aid then.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP FFS Reply #22 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 9:59am Anyway...its easier, quicker and more humane to process the cattle here and fly the chilled meat to Indonesia and in the end the Indonesian consumer ends up with a better product and we end up with more jobs in this country. Case closed..
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34987 Gender:	Re: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP FFS Reply #23 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:04am mine , so unstressed (these arent mine,) my farms a bit drier than that at the moment
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34987 Gender:	Re: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP FFS Reply #24 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:04am feedlot
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34987 Gender:	Re: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP FFS Reply #25 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:08am these are mine
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FRED. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3698	Re: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP FFS Reply #26 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:20am aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:08am: these are mine Bloody nice looking stock
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34987 Gender:	Re: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP FFS Reply #27 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:43am FRED. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:20am: aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:08am: these are mine Bloody nice looking stock I love cows mate, most of mine die of old age. horses are even better in fact they are the most loyal animals you can get
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Reply #28 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:48am

When rouge operators are identified in any industry it is up to the police or governing body to charge and prosecute the offenders.....The first question that needs to be asked has any law been broken and what can be done to change the practice at that particular port.....No doubt animal activists have searched far and wide for such an incident to close the industry altogether???

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FRED. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3698	Re: WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP FFS Reply #29 - Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:49am aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:43am: FRED. wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:20am: aquascoot wrote on Jan 8^th, 2013 at 10:08am: these are mine Bloody nice looking stock I love cows mate, most of mine die of old age. horses are even better in fact they are the most loyal animals you can get Gotta agree there
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