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Jan 8th, 2013 at 11:51pm
 
Get used to record-breaking heat: bureau


THE heatwave that has scorched the nation since Christmas is a taste of things to come, with this week’s records set to tumble again and again in the coming years, climate scientists said.

The hottest average maximum temperature ever recorded across Australia – 40.33 degrees, set on Monday – may only stand for 24 hours and be eclipsed when all of Tuesday’s readings come in. Previously, that record had stood since December 21, 1972.


‘‘The current heatwave – in terms of its duration, its intensity and its extent – is now unprecedented in our records,’’  the Bureau of Meteorology’s manager of climate monitoring and prediction, David Jones, said.

‘‘Clearly, the climate system is responding to the background warming trend. Everything that happens in the climate system now is taking place on a planet which is a degree hotter than it used to be.’’

As the warming trend increases over coming years, record-breaking heat will become more and more common,
Dr Jones said.

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We know that global climate doesn’t respond monotonically – it does go up and down with natural variation.
That’s why some years are hotter than others because of a range of factors.
But we’re getting many more hot records than we’re getting cold records. That’s not an issue that is explained away by natural variation.’’


Australia’s climate is based on an interplay of many factors including regional and local weather patterns, El Nino and La Nina climate cycles and the Indian Ocean dipole, all superimposed on the greenhouse gas-driven warming trend.

While temperatures vary on a local and regional scale, globally it has now been 27 years since the world experienced a month that was colder than average.

The impacts of the rising heat on farming, food, water and human health have been studied closely for years, and the trends being played out now mirror those laid out years ago in projections by the Bureau of Meteorology, the CSIRO and the Garnaut climate change review.

They include heightened bushfire risk, rising sea levels affecting infrastructure and houses all along the coast and, by the end of the century, massive cuts in food production in the Murray-Darling Basin.

According to a peer-reviewed study by the Australian-based  Global Carbon Project, global average temperatures are on a trajectory to rise a further four to six degrees by the end of this century, with that rise felt most strongly over land areas. It would be enough to tip Tuesday’s over-40 temperatures over much of mainland Australia very close to 50 degrees in some parts.

“Those of us who spend our days trawling – and contributing to – the scientific literature on climate change are becoming increasingly gloomy about the future of human civilisation,’’ said Liz Hanna, convener of the human health division at the Australian National University’s Climate Change Adaptation Network.

‘‘We are well past the time of niceties, of avoiding the dire nature of what is unfolding, and politely trying not to scare the public. The unparalleled setting of new heat extremes is forcing the continual upwards trending of warming predictions for the future, and the timescale is contracting.’’

Around the world, 2013 could be the hottest ever recorded by modern instrumentation, according to a recent study by Britain’s Met Office.

It said that, based on the rising background warming trend, 2013 will be 0.43 degrees to 0.71 degrees hotter globally than the average temperature between 1961 and 1990, with a ‘‘best fit’’ of 0.57 degrees warmer.

If that turns out to be accurate, 2013 would surpass the previous record, held jointly by 2005 and 2010.
The Met Office findings are considered telling in the climate science community, because 2013 is set to be a relatively ‘‘neutral’’ year, without a strong El Nino warming cycle to push temperatures up.

The Australian heatwave, which is exceptional, is a continuation of the record-breaking temperatures seen across much of Australia since September, according to the special climate statement issued by the bureau on Tuesday.

The last four months of 2012 were the hottest on record, albeit by just 0.01 of a degree. ‘‘This event is ongoing with further significant records likely to be set,’’ the statement said.

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http://www.smh.com.au/environment/get-used-to-recordbreaking-heat-bureau-2013010...
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This is not about who wins some BS argument, it's about following a standard business practice, of mitigating against likely/probable/possible adverse outcomes, by taking insurance against those adverse outcomes AND THESE CLIMATE CHANGE OUTCOMES ARE ABOUT AS ADVERSE AS YOU COULD THINK OF!
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Reply #1 - Jan 9th, 2013 at 12:24am
 
And there you have it. Latch onto a weather even and scaremonger a climate.

Not even a climate scientist can read a weather map and figure out why there was so much heat.
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Reply #2 - Jan 9th, 2013 at 5:23am
 
I told my 84 year old mother to go to the library for the day. She was going to drive around in her car with the aircon on. She lives in a place that is relatively cold. She doesnt even have a fan because she doesnt normally need one because it doesnt get this hot. Yesterdays 43C was the hottest she has ever experienced there.

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Reply #3 - Jan 9th, 2013 at 6:12am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 12:24am:
And there you have it. Latch onto a weather even and scaremonger a climate.

Not even a climate scientist can read a weather map and figure out why there was so much heat.


Yes, I even read an article that said that the ice wasn't actually melting in Greenland. It was just being held up in liquid form.   So much hype when it's really just ice in liquid form.  Grin

I'll try to find the original article. You would love it.
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Reply #4 - Jan 9th, 2013 at 11:08pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 12:24am:
And there you have it. Latch onto a weather even and scaremonger a climate.

Not even a climate scientist can read a weather map and figure out why there was so much heat.


Well that is a foolish statement.

Last night on the Teev, a BOM 'expert' explained why this heat was occurring,  and detailed why BOM has increased it's spread of temp increments ... and has added two additional colours, representing higher temperatures, in its visual modelling of the climate facts.

We now have -  above deep red...  Purple and Black... for temps 50.C and above.
He explained it really well,  and cleverly avoided being dragged into an unequivocal statement about the correlation with Climate Change.

Quite excellent actually.
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Reply #5 - Jan 9th, 2013 at 11:20pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 12:24am:
And there you have it. Latch onto a weather even and scaremonger a climate.

Not even a climate scientist can read a weather map and figure out why there was so much heat.

You are so right.

It is as bad as those idiots who think Hitler murdered Jews.

It never happened, and all the evidence in the world will never make me believe it happened
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 5:23am:
I told my 84 year old mother to go to the library for the day. She was going to drive around in her car with the aircon on. She lives in a place that is relatively cold. She doesnt even have a fan because she doesnt normally need one because it doesnt get this hot. Yesterdays 43C was the hottest she has ever experienced there.

SOB

Some librarys have crap air-con: some others are top-notch however!

Imagine being 84 and going to the library to cool down and experiencing the noise-fest that they allow these days!!

Librarys are no longer a place of peace and quiet....
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Reply #7 - Jan 11th, 2013 at 3:11pm
 
muso wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 6:12am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 12:24am:
And there you have it. Latch onto a weather even and scaremonger a climate.

Not even a climate scientist can read a weather map and figure out why there was so much heat.


Yes, I even read an article that said that the ice wasn't actually melting in Greenland. It was just being held up in liquid form.   So much hype when it's really just ice in liquid form.  Grin

I'll try to find the original article. You would love it.

moulins... they gouge out BIGGER AND BIGGER CRACKS IN THE ICE SHEET(S) and this is how the ice breaks up! ALL IS A PROCESS....

PHASE CHANGE IS ON THE CARDS ALL THE TIME: ONCE AGAIN, IT IS [b]THE RATE OF CHANGE
IT IS HAPPENING AT THAT IS CONCERNING!![/b]
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Reply #8 - Jan 11th, 2013 at 8:52pm
 
Yes INDEED DRAY   Smiley

It IS the rate of change... that is quite frankly..... alarming. Cry
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Reply #9 - Jan 11th, 2013 at 9:50pm
 
Emma wrote on Jan 11th, 2013 at 8:52pm:
Yes INDEED DRAY   Smiley

It IS the rate of change... that is quite frankly..... alarming. Cry

Don't worry.  Some idiot in the Daily Mail says it hasn't warmed for 16 years.

Gold Medal told me.  So it must be right.


Mind you, Gold Medal also told us that:
* glaciers are not receding
* the MWP was 4 degrees warmer globally than today
* that an undersea volcano melted the arctic icecap
* That the UK MET announced that global warming had stopped
etc etc etc....

And if you ask for any evidence to support these - he will either run away like a little girl or post something completely irrelevant

Funny dude that Gold Medal
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Reply #10 - Jan 11th, 2013 at 10:00pm
 
this is true...

other than the thread on democracy aka Newman!!Yuk...  i find his approach
bombastic  Smiley
and right of centre ... and not well -informed...or..blind to facts... 

I guess every one is likely to agree with SOMEONE at SOME TIME.  Grin
How does it go??

You can fool some of the people ALL the time , and
You fool all of the people SOME of the time,  but
You can't fool ALL of the people ALL of the time. Smiley Wink


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Reply #11 - Jan 12th, 2013 at 5:15am
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 11th, 2013 at 3:08pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 5:23am:
I told my 84 year old mother to go to the library for the day. She was going to drive around in her car with the aircon on. She lives in a place that is relatively cold. She doesnt even have a fan because she doesnt normally need one because it doesnt get this hot. Yesterdays 43C was the hottest she has ever experienced there.

SOB

Some librarys have crap air-con: some others are top-notch however!

Imagine being 84 and going to the library to cool down and experiencing the noise-fest that they allow these days!!

Librarys are no longer a place of peace and quiet....


I have been to the one where she lives and it was pretty quiet. If you want to listen to noise you can use headphones. Its a small town so i guess the big city ways havent caught up with them yet. I dont know what their aircon is like though because it doesnt normally get so hot in that area - i just didnt notice or it was winter.

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Reply #12 - Jan 13th, 2013 at 7:14am
 
BOM = guess work
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damien wrote on Jan 13th, 2013 at 7:14am:
BOM = guess work

DAMIEN THE DOUBT RAISER LOVES TO SMOKE CRACK AND PRETEND HE IS HAVING A GOOD TIME!


DAMIEN USED TO HAVE MANY FRIENDS THAT DID THE SAME....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy  Grin
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Reply #14 - Jan 13th, 2013 at 5:34pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 11:20pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 9th, 2013 at 12:24am:
And there you have it. Latch onto a weather even and scaremonger a climate.

Not even a climate scientist can read a weather map and figure out why there was so much heat.

You are so right.

It is as bad as those idiots who think Hitler murdered Jews.

It never happened, and all the evidence in the world will never make me believe it happened



Oh dear, you've resorted to Hitler.

The AGW alarmist camp is really getting desperate now.

Roll Eyes

I suppose we can't blame you though: you certainly don't have much reliable science on your side.

Hyperbole, data manipulation, lies, colourful graphs, fear-mongering, and now Godwin's Law.  The alarmists' "argument" gets weaker every day.
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