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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 137588 Gender:	Re: Get used to record-breaking heat Reply #180 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 1:15pm Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 11^th, 2013 at 6:38pm: Only one of these is a dogmatic crack pot cult religion Speaking of which ...
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Reply #181 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 2:37pm

Who is this Alice Gore lady ?

I have searched the climate research and scientific literature and can't find any peer reviewed articles by this woman.

Is Alice Gore a scientist at least?

Wow gregorypeckary seems very confused and clearly hasn't read any of the peer reviewed literature on AGW.

perhaps this washed up clown actor can refer to the EARLY work of Svante Arrhenius, the Nobel Prize winning chemist? Arrhenius published an article in the 1890s that showed thermal retention rate predictions as CO2 levels increased. His global warming estimates were surprisingly accurate when compared to modern estimates and computer modeling.

Arrhenius had very little observational data and in the 1890s CO2 levels and global temperatures had not commenced rising significantly. What a brilliant man.

I wonder if the HYPOTHESIS that Arrhenius was puting forward was JUST AN ACCEPTED HYPOTHESIS?

Gee we better check with the AGW DENIALIST priest gregorrypeckary or Bolt - maybe even the supreme genius of our time lord Moncton?

(These AGW DENIERS must lie and evade any challenges to their deceptions and political biases - there is nothing else left for them to do but to deceive themselves and others)

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Reply #182 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 2:59pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 2:37pm:

Gee we better check with the AGW DENIALIST priest gregorrypeckary ...

Oh dear.

We've uncovered yet another little liar in the forum.

Just to refresh your memory, my fibbing little friend:

"I'm denying nothing my friend.

"Climate changes. Nobody I've seen in here denies that.

"And your little hypothesis may indeed be correct, however, currently there is no credible, reliable evidence to support it.

"That may change in the future though. You see, unlike the AGW alarmists, I have an open mind on the subject.

"I'm an open-minded sceptic ... "

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1357653105/158#158

Did you miss it?

I'll give it to you again, but I'll type slowly for you:

"And your little hypothesis may indeed be correct ... "

Next!

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Reply #183 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 7:39pm

A shutdown or slowdown of the thermohaline circulation has been a postulated effect of global warming for the last ten years at least. One factor that influences the relatively mild winters of North West Europe has been the North Atlantic drift, which is driven by the thermohaline circulation.

The consequence of the slowdown of the NAD is a shift to more continental weather patterns, which means more severe winters. This pattern has been emerging for the last ten years at least.

It's not quite that tidy, because on one year at least, the West Greenland current joined up with the NAD resulting in even more extreme conditions.

Another factor has been the warmer summers in the Arctic. There is evidence that the increased melting of sea ice caused by the warmer summers have given rise to harsher winters:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120112193430.htm

Nobody is claiming a single mechanism, but what I just outlined was considered a likely consequence even back in 2000.

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #184 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 8:02pm

muso wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 7:39pm:

A shutdown or slowdown of the thermohaline circulation has been a postulated effect of global warming for the last ten years at least. One factor that influences the relatively mild winters of North West Europe has been the North Atlantic drift, which is driven by the thermohaline circulation.

The consequence of the slowdown of the NAD is a shift to more continental weather patterns, which means more severe winters. This pattern has been emerging for the last ten years at least.

It's not quite that tidy, because on one year at least, the West Greenland current joined up with the NAD resulting in even more extreme conditions.

Another factor has been the warmer summers in the Arctic. There is evidence that the increased melting of sea ice caused by the warmer summers have given rise to harsher winters:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120112193430.htm

Nobody is claiming a single mechanism, but what I just outlined was considered a likely consequence even back in 2000.

Muso, that sounds almost as vague as the ultimate hypothesis itself. Co2.

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #185 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 8:05pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 8:02pm:

muso wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 7:39pm:

A shutdown or slowdown of the thermohaline circulation has been a postulated effect of global warming for the last ten years at least. One factor that influences the relatively mild winters of North West Europe has been the North Atlantic drift, which is driven by the thermohaline circulation.

The consequence of the slowdown of the NAD is a shift to more continental weather patterns, which means more severe winters. This pattern has been emerging for the last ten years at least.

It's not quite that tidy, because on one year at least, the West Greenland current joined up with the NAD resulting in even more extreme conditions.

Another factor has been the warmer summers in the Arctic. There is evidence that the increased melting of sea ice caused by the warmer summers have given rise to harsher winters:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120112193430.htm

Nobody is claiming a single mechanism, but what I just outlined was considered a likely consequence even back in 2000.

Muso, that sounds almost as vague as the ultimate hypothesis itself. Co2.

Vague is an understatement.

And I just love how he says "the last ten years at least" as if that's a significant period of time when talking about the climate and global warming.

I literally laughed out loud when I read that post.

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Reply #186 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 8:15pm

muso wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 7:39pm:

A shutdown or slowdown of the thermohaline circulation has been a postulated effect of global warming for the last ten years at least. One factor that influences the relatively mild winters of North West Europe has been the North Atlantic drift, which is driven by the thermohaline circulation.

The consequence of the slowdown of the NAD is a shift to more continental weather patterns, which means more severe winters. This pattern has been emerging for the last ten years at least.

It's not quite that tidy, because on one year at least, the West Greenland current joined up with the NAD resulting in even more extreme conditions.

Another factor has been the warmer summers in the Arctic. There is evidence that the increased melting of sea ice caused by the warmer summers have given rise to harsher winters:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120112193430.htm

Nobody is claiming a single mechanism, but what I just outlined was considered a likely consequence even back in 2000.

All of which is part of the reason for Climate Change, instead of Global Warming.

It is certainly something that must be followed up and I have read material, including the following, that suggests the current may have already experienced slowdowns, including in 2004 & 2005.

Whether that may have contributed to Hurricane Katina in 2005, is probably one of those unknowables, perhaps it did or perhaps it was just another coincidence?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation

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Reply #187 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 8:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 2:37pm:

Gee we better check with the AGW DENIALIST priest gregorrypeckary ...

Oh dear.

Ladies and gentlemen,

The clown puppet AGW denialist defunct actor Priest not only has innate manners but can also use linguistic fossil fuel spin doctoring hails such as "accepted hypothesis" and "unreliable evidence" etc

This scandalous and pathetically cerebralised coal leach not only worships the corporate greed culture, and the paranoidal post ignorant movement, BUT he needs to lie about it too.

And we all know why a person such as this freak maggoting sloth must lie to pseudo-validate their stance don't we ladies and gentlemen?

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Reply #189 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 9:13pm

cartoons, Andrew Bolt and Lord Monckton are reliable sources

The world scientific community is unreliable and erroneous in their acceptance of hypotheses

The sloth actor has decayed into the vomit of Hades and cannot swim ladies and gentlemen

What does the actor have to show the world he has attained deliverance ?

the lies of the fossil fuel industry ONLINE

what a Nobel credible and RELIABLE source that this Bolt Scoundrel has

I will pry for your soul, but your carcass has rotted many years ago - along with your meaningless lies and deceptive dogma

BEGONE COWARD OF JACOB

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Reply #190 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 9:30pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 8:02pm:

Muso, that sounds almost as vague as the ultimate hypothesis itself. Co2.

It's complex, not vague. The strawman that you continually knock down is a simplistic representation of climate science.

The reality is complex. Nobody is denying that.

The only simple empirical factors that come into play are the conservation of energy and Le Chatelier's Principle.

In other words

1. All that extra energy from the enhanced greenhouse effect must be doing something regardless of how you look at it, and

2. Any change in the status quo prompts an opposing reaction in the responding system.

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #191 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 9:41pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 8:02pm:

muso wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 7:39pm:

A shutdown or slowdown of the thermohaline circulation has been a postulated effect of global warming for the last ten years at least. One factor that influences the relatively mild winters of North West Europe has been the North Atlantic drift, which is driven by the thermohaline circulation.

The consequence of the slowdown of the NAD is a shift to more continental weather patterns, which means more severe winters. This pattern has been emerging for the last ten years at least.

It's not quite that tidy, because on one year at least, the West Greenland current joined up with the NAD resulting in even more extreme conditions.

Another factor has been the warmer summers in the Arctic. There is evidence that the increased melting of sea ice caused by the warmer summers have given rise to harsher winters:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120112193430.htm

Nobody is claiming a single mechanism, but what I just outlined was considered a likely consequence even back in 2000.

Muso, that sounds almost as vague as the ultimate hypothesis itself. Co2.

Slowly, but surely, their religion is losing respect from the general public.

As more and more of their evidence is exposed to be unreliable and inaccurate, they are increasingly talking in vague terms in order to avoid close scrutiny.

History will not be kind to this cult.

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #192 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 10:46pm

muso wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 9:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 8:02pm:

Muso, that sounds almost as vague as the ultimate hypothesis itself. Co2.

It's complex, not vague. The strawman that you continually knock down is a simplistic representation of climate science.

The reality is complex. Nobody is denying that.

The only simple empirical factors that come into play are the conservation of energy and Le Chatelier's Principle.

In other words

1. All that extra energy from the enhanced greenhouse effect must be doing something regardless of how you look at it, and

2. Any change in the status quo prompts an opposing reaction in the responding system.

The only thing simple in this complex issue, is to put all the eggs in 1 basket of co2.

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Re: Get used to record-breaking heat
Reply #193 - Apr 12^th, 2013 at 11:34pm

....why even attempt to argue with ignorant clown Denialists who worship the fossil fuel industry, ring wing materialism and are innately paranoid of their own political shadow?

They sprout their lies on the internet like the moral cowards and intellectual dwarfs that they are.

Take a wild guess as to who this is folks?

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Reply #194 - Apr 13^th, 2013 at 12:01am

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 12^th, 2013 at 11:34pm:

....why even attempt to argue with ignorant clown Denialists who worship the fossil fuel industry, ring wing materialism and are innately paranoid of their own political shadow?

They sprout their lies on the internet like the moral cowards and intellectual dwarfs that they are.

Take a wild guess as to who this is folks?

http://funnypicturesgallery.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/funny-wallpapers-of-m...

A pathetic lefty socialist who doesnt need the critical thinking for the result desired. What do I win.

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