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Learn the holy Qur'an or else
Jan 9^th, 2013 at 7:48pm

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UK court sentences Indian woman for killing son over failure to learn Quran

London: A British judge on Monday sentenced an Indian-woman he called a “devoted and loving mother” to at least 17 years in prison for beating her son to death after he failed to memorise passages from the Quran.

A jury at Cardiff Crown Court in Wales convicted 33-year-old Sara Ege last month of murdering 7-year-old Yaseen and burning his body to destroy the evidence.

Judge Wyn Williams said Ege beat Yaseen repeatedly with a stick over several months, causing internal injuries.

He said that, on the day he died in 2010, Yaseen had been kept home from school to memorise verses from the Muslim holy book, and that his failure “was the trigger for the beating” that killed him.

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http://www.firstpost.com/world/uk-court-sentences-indian-woman-for-killing-son-o...

I remember my wife Mohammer beating the tripe out of me for not knowing certain verses of the holy Qur'an. An ambulance was parked outside our humble home 24 hours a day. Now, thanks to the love of my wife and our 17 daughters I know the holy Qur'an backwards. The Qur'an makes no sense at all but that's religion for you.

Islam is a religion of peace.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96660	Re: Learn the holy Qur'an or else Reply #1 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:34pm Islam did it. Typical.
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Sir_Bobby Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 174 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Learn the holy Qur'an or else Reply #2 - Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:51pm Quote: Ege sobbed as the judge passed sentence. Williams said the 2 ½ years she had spent in secure psychiatric units since her arrest would count toward her 17-year minimum sentence. She got some Western justice.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96660	Re: Learn the holy Qur'an or else Reply #3 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:01am Imagine if the mullahs got her.
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Reply #4 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:31am

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:01am:

Imagine if the mullahs got her.

K,

Is this more of your 'jolly' sarcasm to deflect the impact and significance of the truth that is revealed about this 'lawful' behaviour of moslems ? [.....and being expressed, by you, on behalf of the poor 'misunderstood' and 'misrepresented' moslems ?] [ <----- and some of my own sarcasm. does it work for you ? ]

As you are probably very well aware K, 'if the mullahs got her', NOTHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.

Because killing your own ['rebellious'] children, IS NOT A CRIME WITHIN ISLAMIC/SHARIA LAW.
[....and i have previously provided ISLAMIC law references [and examples] to this fact, here on Ozpol]

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Reply #5 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 10:10am

I wasn't aware of the Sharia law on these matters, Yadda. Thanks for that.

I am aware, however (from Salad In's insightful article), that murdering your son is a criminal act in the UK.

The article doesn't mention that the woman was clearly cracked. No mention of the psychiatric evaluation that the court would definitely have ordered. No mention of the judge's other closing remarks, other factors, other motives, other people involved (if any) - just the ones about memorizing the Koran.

How strange. I mean, unless this woman was bewitched by the Islamic demons to keep her son home from school to study the Koran and then kill him, surely there are other factors in this case. And yes, even if she was bewitched by Islamic demons, fairies or djins, surely that would be newsworthy too.

Wouldn't it?

WOMAN BEWITCHED BY MUSLIM GOULS.

Still, thanks for clarifying the Islamic legal system for us, Y. It's good to know that killing your 7 year old son is legal for Muslims. I guess that's why they want to import Sharia law - so they can kill their kids.

Is this the penalty for not memorizing your books well enough, Y? Death?

Maybe we should ask Abu when he's in next. Freediver could put it in his wiki.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49452 At my desk.	Re: Learn the holy Qur'an or else Reply #6 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 1:33pm I think Abu once described how Islam encourages people to beat their children for not praying.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20027 Canberra Gender:	Re: Learn the holy Qur'an or else Reply #7 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 1:39pm good citation there FD. Now you can start a wiki chapter entitled "islam forces parents to beat and torture their children for not praying" - then you can link this thread (you saying you think Abu said something, somewhere is good enough) as the reference.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96660	Re: Learn the holy Qur'an or else Reply #8 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 2:29pm That's right. It's Sharia law now.
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Re: Learn the holy Qur'an or else
Reply #9 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 3:26pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 1:39pm:

good citation there FD.

Now you can start a wiki chapter entitled "islam forces parents to beat and torture their children for not praying" - then you can link this thread (you saying you think Abu said something, somewhere is good enough) as the reference.

It was the profit (allah did demand 20% of all war booty ) Mo who gave the order to beat your children, do you even read your holy books or take it on blind faith?

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The prophet said-
Command a boy to pray when he reaches the age of 7 years, When he becomes 10 years of age then beat him for prayer.

www.sunnah.com/urn/804940

Why does allah need 20% of all war booty do you think this verse makes Mo look like a fraud?
www.quran.com/8/41

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Reply #10 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 7:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 1:39pm:

good citation there FD.

Now you can start a wiki chapter entitled "islam forces parents to beat and torture their children for not praying" - then you can link this thread (you saying you think Abu said something, somewhere is good enough) as the reference.

Thanks for mentioning the wiki. As it turns out. I had cited this in the wiki already. Here you go - Abu even throws in a gratuitous reference to wife beating:

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2009 at 12:28pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 24^th, 2009 at 9:06pm:

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Did you not say that Islam rejects the concept of a man and woman falling in love before they get married?

Can you quote me saying it?

I never said Islam rejects such a concept.

Here you go Abu:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1225592196

Yadda wrote on Jan 25^th, 2009 at 12:38am:

Beat children who don't pray,
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/002.sat.html#002....

What's your take on this point Abu?

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 27^th, 2009 at 8:58pm:

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Here you go Abu:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1225592196

That thread has nothing to do with what we discussed here. You've completely confused issues to try and stitch together an argument where there really isn't one.

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What's your take on this point Abu?

As with disclipining a wife who is disobedient, yes it is allowed.

Do you see how great the wiki is now? Otherwise you lot would have insisted that Abu could not possibly believe such a thing.

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Reply #11 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:41pm

Islam is a parody of religion (of Judaism to be specific).

The difference between a fertile religion and a barren superstition is the idea of cooperation between the divine and the creaturely (human). In a fertile religion, the world is created by man and god working together. This is what creates the room for science, literature, art, discussion and dialogue.

Superstition is all about submission to blind force, like Allah or the serpent - or any of the other implacable and unfathomable forces. There is no interpretation, no dialogue, no creative inventiveness - only submission, fear and trembling. No questions, no contribution, no room for cooperation. Submit and ask no questions - the world imagined and lived in as the domain of an all-powerful oriental potentate.

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Reply #12 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:57pm

Yes, friends, it is great. Gud is great to make such lovey wikis for all.

Beat them, dears. Only Gud can bring the childrens unto pious knowledge. Spare rod, what. Childrens will suffer unrightous law. He is witness to human mercy - suffer not!

Dear lady make mistake, bit only Gud is great. Gud speaks!

Allah Uakbar.

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Reply #13 - Jan 11^th, 2013 at 10:04pm

Karnal wrote on Jan 11^th, 2013 at 8:57pm:

Yes, friends, it is great. Gud is great to make such lovey wikis for all.

Beat them, dears. Only Gud can bring the childrens unto pious knowledge. Spare rod, what. Childrens will suffer unrightous law. He is witness to human mercy - suffer not!

Dear lady make mistake, bit only Gud is great. Gud speaks!

Allah Uakbar.

Nurse, aperients!!!

NOW!!!

And draw the curtain, will you, Nurse.

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salad in Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5941	Re: Learn the holy Qur'an or else Reply #14 - Jan 12^th, 2013 at 7:07am Karnal wrote on Jan 10^th, 2013 at 10:34pm: Islam did it. Typical. As-salam alaykum Karnal. Maybe she watched too much 'Neighbours' or 'Home and Away'? Surely two of our worst exports. I know I get mood swings when I watch them. Hallah be praised for it is written.
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