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Reply #405 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 9:26pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 8:26pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 3:41pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:35am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:18am:

hey dumbnail.... no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least. that makes 20 years of no warming. even a dunce like you should be able to work out what the 'underlying trend' is.

NO GLOBAL WARMING.

Still clinging to your David Rose article!!!! Heh! THat is cute.

I guess this is what you call "evidence" is it? Mindlessly repeating some mantra you read by an idiot newspaper columnist! No mattaer how removed from reality it is!

Please explain to us:

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

And,

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why is the only "evidence" you have to support this an opinion piece from some columnist in the Daily Mail?

You havent caught up... even MOTR accepts the truth of that statement - as does most of the science community.

Could you please provide us with evidence that MOTR and "most of the science community" are as gullible as you are to believe a stupid newspaper column by David Rose.

Please show us this evidence or apologise for lying to the forum.

And please answer the questions asked of you. Please explain to us:

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

And,

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why is the only "evidence" you have to support this an opinion piece from some columnist in the Daily Mail?

How about you stop quoting David Rose and start answering some questions?

Bwhhhaaaaa Grin

You are beyond help.

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Reply #406 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 10:19pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 8:04pm:

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Cherry picking 1998 to argue a warming pause only works if you don't really understand statistics. Some people say there are lies, damned lies and statistics. I say there are lies, damned lies and the statistically ignorant.

I wonder if Gold Medal would agree with the commonly held theory that Mt Everest is actually one of the smallest mountains in the world?

Mt Everest is only 256 feet high. That is a FACT - no matter those lies your school geography books tell you.

It is a FACT Mt Everest is only 256 feet high......So long as you measure it from the summit of Mt Godwin-Austin (K2).

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Reply #408 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 10:27pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 9:26pm:

Bwhhhaaaaa Grin

You are beyond help.

Since you have decided to jump in on behalf of Gold Medal - perhaps you can answer the questions that were asked of him?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

And,

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why is the only "evidence" you have to support this an opinion piece from some columnist in the Daily Mail?

If you cannot answer these questions...well - you probably should just go back to posting fasle stories from The Australian

You never did apologise to the forum for doing that, did you. I blame your parents for not brining you up correctly.

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Reply #410 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 10:39pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 10:27pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 9:26pm:

Bwhhhaaaaa Grin

You are beyond help.

Since you have decided to jump in on behalf of Gold Medal - perhaps you can answer the questions that were asked of him?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

And,

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why is the only "evidence" you have to support this an opinion piece from some columnist in the Daily Mail?

If you cannot answer these questions...well - you probably should just go back to posting fasle stories from The Australian

You never did apologise to the forum for doing that, did you. I blame your parents for not brining you up correctly.

Not at all and I dont intend to. I already said why it is still legit and why the cult pressure must have gotten to the poor sod.

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Reply #411 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 10:55pm

brohaha

Good questions Rabbitoh..... no wonder the fools are unable to reply..
thats the thing.... pin 'em down,,,,and they show their sleaze and ignorance.....

I think they are all perfectly GOOD questions to ask of vocal deniers...

will they EVER try to answer ....nope....they don't have the answers....
Grin

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keep it up fellas... you make yourselves more ludicrous with every empty reply.

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Reply #412 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:23pm

Emma wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 10:55pm:

brohaha

Good questions Rabbitoh..... no wonder the fools are unable to reply..
thats the thing.... pin 'em down,,,,and they show their sleaze and ignorance.....

I think they are all perfectly GOOD questions to ask of vocal deniers...

will they EVER try to answer ....nope....they don't have the answers....
Grin

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keep it up fellas... you make yourselves more ludicrous with every empty reply.

Ill give you a heads up. The questions wabbit thinks he wants answers to, were already answered.

Now if he wants the definitive answer to why Hansen and other cultists thinks there has been a pause in global temps, then he should really direct the questions to Hansen.

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Reply #413 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:34pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 8:04pm:

You haven't been listening, goldie. If the Met is predicting the next 5 years are likely to be as hot as the hottest year on record, who in their right mind thinks the planet has stopped warming. When the extreme becomes the normal you've got climate change.

Our satellites tell us the planet must be warming and the earth is responding.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/29/article-0-0A9BF6E3000005DC-99_468x529....

Cherry picking 1998 to argue a warming pause only works if you don't really understand statistics. Some people say there are lies, damned lies and statistics. I say there are lies, damned lies and the statistically ignorant.

2012 was the ninth-warmest year on record

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Reply #414 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:41pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:23pm:

Emma wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 10:55pm:

brohaha

Good questions Rabbitoh..... no wonder the fools are unable to reply..
thats the thing.... pin 'em down,,,,and they show their sleaze and ignorance.....

I think they are all perfectly GOOD questions to ask of vocal deniers...

will they EVER try to answer ....nope....they don't have the answers....
Grin

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keep it up fellas... you make yourselves more ludicrous with every empty reply.

Ill give you a heads up. The questions wabbit thinks he wants answers to, were already answered.

Were they?

Would you be a good chap and proved a link please.

THanks

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:23pm:

Now if he wants the definitive answer to why Hansen and other cultists thinks there has been a pause in global temps, then he should really direct the questions to Hansen.

...and then we descend into Bolty-drivel.

If you have a question to ask - please ask it. I will answer.

Until then - can you answer the questions posed to Gold Medal that you decided to jump in on?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

So - please answer these questions. Or if you think they have been answered - please show us where.

CTL-C, CTL-V - it is the easiest thing in the world to do.

Just show us.

OK?

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Reply #415 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:46pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:34pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 8:04pm:

You haven't been listening, goldie. If the Met is predicting the next 5 years are likely to be as hot as the hottest year on record, who in their right mind thinks the planet has stopped warming. When the extreme becomes the normal you've got climate change.

Our satellites tell us the planet must be warming and the earth is responding.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/29/article-0-0A9BF6E3000005DC-99_468x529....

Cherry picking 1998 to argue a warming pause only works if you don't really understand statistics. Some people say there are lies, damned lies and statistics. I say there are lies, damned lies and the statistically ignorant.

2012 was the ninth-warmest year on record

Yes - 2012 was the ninth-warmest year on record. That is quite extraordinary for part of the most severe La Nina event ever recoded isn't it!

2012 was an extreme La Nina year - but STILL the the ninth-warmest year on record!!!

It really does make those morons who claim "the earth has not warmed for 16 years" look rather silly doesn't it! But then again - those who get their scientific knowledge from David Rose of the Daily Mail deserve to be treated as retards, don't they. It is good to see you agree.

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Reply #417 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:59pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:41pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:23pm:

Emma wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 10:55pm:

brohaha

Good questions Rabbitoh..... no wonder the fools are unable to reply..
thats the thing.... pin 'em down,,,,and they show their sleaze and ignorance.....

I think they are all perfectly GOOD questions to ask of vocal deniers...

will they EVER try to answer ....nope....they don't have the answers....
Grin

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keep it up fellas... you make yourselves more ludicrous with every empty reply.

Ill give you a heads up. The questions wabbit thinks he wants answers to, were already answered.

Were they?

Would you be a good chap and proved a link please.

THanks

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:23pm:

Now if he wants the definitive answer to why Hansen and other cultists thinks there has been a pause in global temps, then he should really direct the questions to Hansen.

...and then we descend into Bolty-drivel.

If you have a question to ask - please ask it. I will answer.

Until then - can you answer the questions posed to Gold Medal that you decided to jump in on?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

So - please answer these questions. Or if you think they have been answered - please show us where.

CTL-C, CTL-V - it is the easiest thing in the world to do.

Just show us.

OK?

Hansen (the cults godfather) thinks there has been a pause, so the planet is not warming further. Hasnt been warming further. Will not, according to the MET, warm further for another 5 years.

You can answer your dumb questions if you think the earth has gotten warmer. Everyone else will just leave you behind.

But I can answer them all in one answer. They arent because of co2 alone and arent because of co2 by much.

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Reply #419 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 12:08am

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 11:59pm: