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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136424 Gender:	Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent. Reply #435 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:49pm MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:36pm: I've been through the last few pages. Nothing even comes close to an answer, progs. Is this just another case of you misrepresenting the truth. The "truth"? So it's the "truth" now? I see.
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Reply #436 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:52pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:41pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:36pm:

I've been through the last few pages. Nothing even comes close to an answer, progs. Is this just another case of you misrepresenting the truth.

No, not at all.

Nup, nothing. You really don't like to deal with the specifics, do you progs. Perhaps you might like to forward the questions to your pal Anthony.

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Reply #437 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:49pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:36pm:

I've been through the last few pages. Nothing even comes close to an answer, progs. Is this just another case of you misrepresenting the truth.

The "truth"? Undecided

So it's the "truth" now?

I see.

Always has been, greggery.

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Reply #438 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 5:00pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:49pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:36pm:

I've been through the last few pages. Nothing even comes close to an answer, progs. Is this just another case of you misrepresenting the truth.

The "truth"? Undecided

So it's the "truth" now?

I see.

Always has been, greggery.

I'm afraid not.

It might be the truth, but we don't actually know.

Let's just stick to the facts.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent. Reply #439 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 5:12pm The truth is that the IPCC which has been vested with the task of interpreting the body of scientific literature that relates to climate change, has come to the conclusion that their are virtually certain the climate is changing and it's predominately us.
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Reply #440 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 5:16pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 5:12pm:

The truth is that the IPCC which has been vested with the task of interpreting the body of scientific literature that relates to climate change, has come to the conclusion that their are virtually certain the climate is changing and it's predominately us.

Selectively. They are just political activists, full of environmental activists.

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Reply #441 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 5:23pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 5:12pm:

The truth is that the IPCC which has been vested with the task of interpreting the body of scientific literature that relates to climate change, has come to the conclusion that their are virtually certain the climate is changing and it's predominately us.

Yes, I accept that. Who wouldn't?

However, "it's predominately us" is not necessarily the truth.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent. Reply #442 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 5:46pm We get it, greggery. Virtually certain means there is a 1% chance we're not warming the planet and very high confidence means there is a 10% chance that natural forcings are more than just a bit player. So, yes, greggery, lets pretend AGW is not very likely.
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Reply #443 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:07pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 5:46pm:

We get it, greggery. Virtually certain means there is a 1% chance we're not warming the planet and very high confidence means there is a 10% chance that natural forcings are more than just a bit player.

So, yes, greggery, lets pretend AGW is not very likely.

I'm not pretending it's not very likely: it might be the truth, it might not.

Using terms like "virtually certain" and "high confidence" don't get us any nearer to the truth.

I'll keep my mind open: this isn't a numbers game.

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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent. Reply #444 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:09pm Just be warey of being so one minded your brains fall out, greggery.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136424 Gender:	Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent. Reply #445 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:13pm MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:09pm: Just be warey of being so one open minded your brains fall out, greggery. I'm sure you meant "open minded".
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent. Reply #446 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:19pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:13pm: MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:09pm: Just be warey of being so one open minded your brains fall out, greggery. I'm sure you meant "open minded". Indeed.
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent. Reply #447 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:21pm Is the whole climate change thing not becoming just a tadd boring now....
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 136424 Gender:	Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent. Reply #448 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:27pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:21pm: Is the whole climate change thing not becoming just a tadd boring now.... Absolutely. Now stand by for cries of "is your child's future boring". "Is the future of the planet boring?"
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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent. Reply #449 - Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:29pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:21pm: Is the whole climate change thing not becoming just a tadd boring now.... Unfortunately we can't just wish it away, Andrei.
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