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Reply #465 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:35am

Rider wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:42am:

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 7:41am:

V BRider wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 7:28am:

WASHINGTON, Jan. 23, 2013 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ – A group of 20 ex-NASA scientists have concluded that the science used to support the man-made climate change hypothesis is not settled and no convincing physical evidence exists to support catastrophic climate change forecasts.

Seems all the catastrophic man made you know what is indeed bulltish, who would have thunk it.

Have a sticky over at notrickszone for more, cant link before you ask.

Thankfully some of the scientists avoided the Kool-Aid so freely supped at the cult of AGW

None of these former NASA scientists will submit their findings for peer review.....NASA has invited them to join the debate but the deniers have refused to support there claims with scientific evidence that can be scrutinised and peer reviewed!!!

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What does NASA say?

“NASA sponsors research into many areas of cutting-edge scientific inquiry, including the relationship between carbon dioxide and climate," the agency's chief scientist, Dr. Waleed Abdalati, told The Huffington Post in an email. "As an agency, NASA does not draw conclusions and issue 'claims' about research findings. We support open scientific inquiry and discussion...If the authors of this letter disagree with specific scientific conclusions made public by NASA scientists, we encourage them to join the debate in the scientific literature or public forums rather than restrict any discourse.”

Peer review Grin

...is that like getting your mates to agree with you. Thats just standing around comparing farts. Pretty much sums up the credibility of "climate science" peer review. [/quote]

unfortunately, the peer review process for climatology has been corrupted so bad that some writers have even peer-reviewed their own work! Peer-revieweres have been chosen that are sympathetic to 'the cause' etc.

peer review is not worthless but it is certainly no guarantee ot anything much at all. Worth nothing that Einstein was NOT peer-reveiwed. if he had, most would have said his theories were crap. And look how that panned out in the end!

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Reply #466 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 10:44am

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 10:53pm:

New papers are destroying the co2 doomsday cult

First paper black carbon takes almost 50% off of co2 current warming of the earth.

Second paper tells us that
they found a very low climate sensitivity to co2

Third paper tells us Ocean-driven warming along the western Antarctic Peninsula needs to be considered as part of a natural centennial timescale cycle of climate variability

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/23/new-study-ocean-driven-warming-along-the-w...

Fourth paper tells us Solar Activity At End Of 20th Century Was At Highest Levels Of Past 9,000 Years

http://climaterealists.com/?id=11006

Back to the drawing board and this time, dont bring your closed minded doomsday cult and sack any and all of your leaders.

I like graphs too. Global cooling graphs are pretty.

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Reply #467 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 12:46pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:31pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 4:30pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 9:23am:

MOTR wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 6:48am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 10:38pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 10:21pm:

You're failure to once again not answer direct questions has not gone unnoticed, progs.

Thats good motr. Might help if you include the question just in case.

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

And,

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why is the only "evidence" you have to support this an opinion piece from some columnist in the Daily Mail?

Too late. I answered earlier.

Perhaps you could link us to your answers.

Nah, it is within a few pages. I cant baby sit you motr

CTRL-C/CTRL-v

A few key strokes.

Just show us

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Reply #468 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 1:05pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 9:18am:

Some people just dont know what a weather event is these days. The cult tells us when it is a record cold, its just cold. When it is record heat, it is climate, not weather.

What dam idiots with no credibility.

This is a record weather event with many reasons for it occurring and all happening at the same time. This is not climate, just the same as all the record cold is not climate.

Yeah, and watch Sunrise (3min max for me) this morning, weather forecast was 'extreme weather' .... yeah, a depleted cyclone in tropical nth qld dumping rain and its gonna be warm in outback australia....bugger me, if this isn't a perfectly normal pattern of normal australian weather. its a big country, its gonna vary from the top to the bottom of the place.

so over seeing 'new record' this, 'extreme' that - when every time its proven to be nothing we haven't seen before, but add a bit of spin, bend the parameters of what 'record' and kazamm, a new record is born every day.

got to hand it to the CAGW cult, they pull the media strings well, guess they have the cash to do it, sucked straight out of the taxpayer.

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Reply #469 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 1:42pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 10:44am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 10:53pm:

New papers are destroying the co2 doomsday cult

First paper black carbon takes almost 50% off of co2 current warming of the earth.

Second paper tells us that
they found a very low climate sensitivity to co2

Third paper tells us Ocean-driven warming along the western Antarctic Peninsula needs to be considered as part of a natural centennial timescale cycle of climate variability

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/23/new-study-ocean-driven-warming-along-the-w...

Fourth paper tells us Solar Activity At End Of 20th Century Was At Highest Levels Of Past 9,000 Years

http://climaterealists.com/?id=11006

Back to the drawing board and this time, dont bring your closed minded doomsday cult and sack any and all of your leaders.

I like graphs too. Global cooling graphs are pretty.

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/co2-temp-rss.png

1) Neither you, nor I, are likely to be around, for the Peak Warming phase!

2) It is very likely that the next Cooling phase, will follow THIS Warming Peak!

3) I suspect humanity will not like the Peak of THIS Warming phase and it will like the Cooling Phase that follows, even less, BUT that is likely to be well after everyone here is long gone!

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Reply #470 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:39pm

Rider wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 7:28am:

WASHINGTON, Jan. 23, 2013 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ – A group of 20 ex-NASA scientists have concluded that the science used to support the man-made climate change hypothesis is not settled and no convincing physical evidence exists to support catastrophic climate change forecasts.

Seems all the catastrophic man made you know what is indeed bulltish, who would have thunk it.

Have a sticky over at notrickszone for more, cant link before you ask.

Thankfully some of the scientists avoided the Kool-Aid so freely supped at the cult of AGW

How many thousands of engineers and scientists have worked for NASA. Are you interested in buying a bridge, rider?

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Reply #471 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:45pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 10:44am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 10:53pm:

New papers are destroying the co2 doomsday cult

First paper black carbon takes almost 50% off of co2 current warming of the earth.

Second paper tells us that
they found a very low climate sensitivity to co2

Third paper tells us Ocean-driven warming along the western Antarctic Peninsula needs to be considered as part of a natural centennial timescale cycle of climate variability

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/23/new-study-ocean-driven-warming-along-the-w...

Fourth paper tells us Solar Activity At End Of 20th Century Was At Highest Levels Of Past 9,000 Years

http://climaterealists.com/?id=11006

Back to the drawing board and this time, dont bring your closed minded doomsday cult and sack any and all of your leaders.

I like graphs too. Global cooling graphs are pretty.

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/co2-temp-rss.png

You are a deadset moron, progs. The sad thing is that you'll be using the same argument after the next peak in warming.

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Reply #472 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:49pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:39pm:

Rider wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 7:28am:

WASHINGTON, Jan. 23, 2013 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ – A group of 20 ex-NASA scientists have concluded that the science used to support the man-made climate change hypothesis is not settled and no convincing physical evidence exists to support catastrophic climate change forecasts.

Seems all the catastrophic man made you know what is indeed bulltish, who would have thunk it.

Have a sticky over at notrickszone for more, cant link before you ask.

Thankfully some of the scientists avoided the Kool-Aid so freely supped at the cult of AGW

How many thousands of engineers and scientists have worked for NASA. Are you interested in buying a bridge, rider?

So what Mr 97%, I'm not buying it at all.

Did you know that 97% of tax payer funded grant addicted so called climate scientists are self serving shonks?

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Reply #474 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:07pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:45pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 10:44am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 10:53pm:

New papers are destroying the co2 doomsday cult

First paper black carbon takes almost 50% off of co2 current warming of the earth.

Second paper tells us that
they found a very low climate sensitivity to co2

Third paper tells us Ocean-driven warming along the western Antarctic Peninsula needs to be considered as part of a natural centennial timescale cycle of climate variability

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/23/new-study-ocean-driven-warming-along-the-w...

Fourth paper tells us Solar Activity At End Of 20th Century Was At Highest Levels Of Past 9,000 Years

http://climaterealists.com/?id=11006

Back to the drawing board and this time, dont bring your closed minded doomsday cult and sack any and all of your leaders.

I like graphs too. Global cooling graphs are pretty.

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/co2-temp-rss.png

You are a deadset moron, progs. The sad thing is that you'll be using the same argument after the next peak in warming.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticsvRealistsv3.gif

Hey dont blame me. You might want to find out how long a pause it has to be before the cult gets worried. Some say 15 years, others 17, MET says we are going for 20 years.

Doesnt matter anyway, because co2 is dead in the water as a climate changer. As it always has been, it is a climate follower and we just pushed it along for a ride and it does very little at its own pace and very little at the pace we set it.

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progressiveslol Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17029	Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent. Reply #475 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:09pm Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:53pm: Are their any actual scientists at "sceptical science", or are they just another pack of wankers fudging everything to suit their agenda. Propagandist morons is all. Part of the lead group in the doomsday cult.
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Reply #476 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:20pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:07pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:45pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 10:44am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2013 at 10:53pm:

New papers are destroying the co2 doomsday cult

First paper black carbon takes almost 50% off of co2 current warming of the earth.

Second paper tells us that
they found a very low climate sensitivity to co2

Third paper tells us Ocean-driven warming along the western Antarctic Peninsula needs to be considered as part of a natural centennial timescale cycle of climate variability

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/23/new-study-ocean-driven-warming-along-the-w...

Fourth paper tells us Solar Activity At End Of 20th Century Was At Highest Levels Of Past 9,000 Years

http://climaterealists.com/?id=11006

Back to the drawing board and this time, dont bring your closed minded doomsday cult and sack any and all of your leaders.

I like graphs too. Global cooling graphs are pretty.

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/co2-temp-rss.png

You are a deadset moron, progs. The sad thing is that you'll be using the same argument after the next peak in warming.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/SkepticsvRealistsv3.gif

Hey dont blame me. You might want to find out how long a pause it has to be before the cult gets worried. Some say 15 years, others 17, MET says we are going for 20 years.

Doesnt matter anyway, because co2 is dead in the water as a climate changer. As it always has been, it is a climate follower and we just pushed it along for a ride and it does very little at its own pace and very little at the pace we set it.

Remember back in 1998, progs, the record high temperatures we experienced back then were considered extreme. The Met Office is telling us that will be the new normal over the next five years. Only a fool or a sociopath would try and pretend the planet isnt warming.

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Reply #477 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:21pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:09pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:53pm:

Are their any actual scientists at "sceptical science", or are they just another pack of wankers fudging everything to suit their agenda. Roll Eyes

Propagandist morons is all. Part of the lead group in the doomsday cult.

Answer the questions that have been asked of you

YOU CLAIM YOU ALREADY HAVE:
CTRL-C/CTRL-v

A few key strokes.

Just show us

If you cannot do that - vou just look like a liar

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Reply #478 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:24pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:09pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:53pm:

Are their any actual scientists at "sceptical science", or are they just another pack of wankers fudging everything to suit their agenda. Roll Eyes

Propagandist morons is all. Part of the lead group in the doomsday cult.

Your were the one sucked in hook, line and sinker by a fake story in The Australian

Are you realy in any position to call anyone a" Propagandist moron"

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Reply #479 - Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:24pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:21pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 9:09pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Jan 24^th, 2013 at 8:53pm:

Are their any actual scientists at "sceptical science", or are they just another pack of wankers fudging everything to suit their agenda. Roll Eyes

Propagandist morons is all. Part of the lead group in the doomsday cult.

Answer the questions that have been asked of you

YOU CLAIM YOU ALREADY HAVE:
CTRL-C/CTRL-v

A few key strokes.

Just show us

If you cannot do that - vou just look like a liar

Go tell mummy, I am not baby sitting you.

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