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Reply #60 - Jan 17th, 2013 at 4:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 4:55pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 3:11pm:
Ive always said I'll take the word of the majority of experts in any field over that of shock jocks, crazy old farts and self serving pollies.
If thats being brainwashed Im guilty as charged.




Ignoring the shock jocks, crazy old farts and self serving pollies (which most people do), why would you automatically trust "the word of the majority of experts"?





That's right. Why would you bother with them when you can listen to Alan?

Those eggheads are so boring.

DITCH THE WITCH.
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Reply #61 - Jan 17th, 2013 at 5:06pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 4:57pm:
That's right. Why would you bother with them when you can listen to Alan?



No, I said ignoring the shock jocks, crazy old farts and self serving pollies (which most people do), why would you automatically trust "the word of the majority of experts"?

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Reply #62 - Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:52pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 10:09am:
Since when have "comments" been "errors"...Maqqa has let himself down again  Grin


I agree, she has!
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Reply #63 - Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:58pm
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:52pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 10:09am:
Since when have "comments" been "errors"...Maqqa has let himself down again  Grin


I agree, she has!



agreeing with adel makes you even worse than adel

read the article again - they wouldn't need extra resources if it were "comments"

they need resources to fix the errors that's why they said everyone of the comments need to be addressed
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Reply #64 - Jan 17th, 2013 at 8:58pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 4:50pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 3:20pm:
This is the brainwashed cultist science. Follow the best propaganda machine without peer-review. Makes for a better story and an even better science to follow.

How did the Met Office get their data so wrong? Well there’s the rub. You see, the methodology used to develop the Met Office SSU product was never published in the peer-reviewed literature, and certain aspects of the original processing “remain unknown.” Evidently the boffins at the Met didn’t bother to write down exactly how they were massaging the raw data to get the results they reported. Indeed, those who did the data manipulation seem to have mostly retired. This is an egregious example of sloppy science, slipshod science, bad science. How other climate scientists blindly accepted the Met Office’s manufactured data, even when their models could not be reconciled with nature, leads one to question the scientific integrity of many of those in the field. This is not acceptable behavior in any realm of scientific endeavor. — Doug Hoffman, The Resilient Earth, 15 January 2013


smells just like the hockey stick scandal. they refused to provide date or methodology in complete contradiction to accepted scientific protocol and govt rules. The reasons were obvious. When they were finally (year later) discovered they were found to be crap.

same thing here.

And these cultists will defend this shite to the end. Just unbelievable. As long as the failed co2 gas theory holds 1 leg, they are happy to keep going.
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Reply #65 - Jan 17th, 2013 at 9:16pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 4:48pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 3:11pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 3:06pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 3:03pm:
Maqqa wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 2:55pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 2:53pm:
Are you going to purchase the full article and then comment on it progs or are you going to continue to read your own amateur interpretation into a few lines and take that as fact.
Unfortunately that's how you deniers are played for chumps so often by these dodgy oil industry funded groups.
Honestly have you ever read a full paper or been to a lecture?



You do it all the time so why shouldn't he?


Yep Im always quoting from oil industry funded think tanks  Grin

der. the words of the brainwashed.


Ive always said I'll take the word of the majority of experts in any field over that of shock jocks, crazy old farts and self serving pollies.
If thats being brainwashed Im guilty as charged.


you've said it, but it isnt true. the number of sceptic scientists is very large and growing daily. If you were anywhere NEAR as open-minded as you claim to be then you wouldn't dismiss each and every published report that isnt to your liking.



So you say.  But you have been caught telling lies numerous limes..
Show us evidence  liar.
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Reply #66 - Jan 17th, 2013 at 11:11pm
 
Cultists want to talk oil money conspiracy, you know, the conspiracy you have when it is ok to have a conspiracy. Any others is just down right nut bag stuff.


Well here is the carbon trading money tree. Bigger and better, more honed in to the co2 gas, than any oil money could dream of


If the carbon trading business seems too good to be true, maybe there’s a good reason

Guest post by Kelvin Kemm

The COP-18 environmental conference held in Doha has come and gone. In the wake of high expectations for a successor treaty, the Kyoto Protocol was extended, but only after bitter debate – and several countries have withdrawn from the process or signaled their intent to do so.

Moreover, many observers believe the decision to extend the Protocol was primarily the result of countries not having the courage to stop or scuttle it outright, and not actually knowing what to do next. So the easy way out was to just extend Kyoto and also promise the developing world lots and lots of dollars for “climate mitigation,” which is a sort of apology from the first world for having allegedly messed up the planet in the first place with their fossil fuels and economic development.

Whether the billions of promised aid dollars will really materialize is another matter. But a lot of people have already gotten rich – including Al Gore, hundreds of climate scientists, and thousands of environmental activists and government bureaucrats – and others are trying to cash in. 


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http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/17/the-carbon-trading-money-tree/#more-77696
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Reply #67 - Jan 17th, 2013 at 11:24pm
 
Lefties at least knows that Greenhouse gases acts as a blanket to keep the heat in

Greenhouse gases include water vapour, CO2, OZONE etc

20 years ago they actually tried to repair the OZONE layer so they can't say we should put a hole in it now to let the heat out can they!!??

So what else can they blame it on??

Water vapour??!!  Shocked Shocked

There will be no water tax under a government I lead!!  Cheesy Cheesy

Carbon Dioxide is next on the list
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Re: 31,422 errors in IPCC report
Reply #68 - Jan 17th, 2013 at 11:59pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:58pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:52pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 10:09am:
Since when have "comments" been "errors"...Maqqa has let himself down again  Grin


I agree, she has!



agreeing with adel makes you even worse than adel

read the article again - they wouldn't need extra resources if it were "comments"

they need resources to fix the errors that's why they said everyone of the comments need to be addressed


1) I already read it!

2) It says nothing about needing extra resources!

3) Comments are parts of the normal peer review process, they are NOT errors!!








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Reply #69 - Jan 18th, 2013 at 12:03am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 11:59pm:
Maqqa wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:58pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:52pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 10:09am:
Since when have "comments" been "errors"...Maqqa has let himself down again  Grin


I agree, she has!



agreeing with adel makes you even worse than adel

read the article again - they wouldn't need extra resources if it were "comments"

they need resources to fix the errors that's why they said everyone of the comments need to be addressed


1) I already read it!

2) It says nothing about needing extra resources!

3) Comments are parts of the normal peer review process, they are NOT errors!!









IPCC is not part of the peer-review process. Dont be mistaken with political vs science
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Re: 31,422 errors in IPCC report
Reply #70 - Jan 18th, 2013 at 12:10am
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 18th, 2013 at 12:03am:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 11:59pm:
Maqqa wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:58pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:52pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 10:09am:
Since when have "comments" been "errors"...Maqqa has let himself down again  Grin


I agree, she has!



agreeing with adel makes you even worse than adel

read the article again - they wouldn't need extra resources if it were "comments"

they need resources to fix the errors that's why they said everyone of the comments need to be addressed


1) I already read it!

2) It says nothing about needing extra resources!

3) Comments are parts of the normal peer review process, they are NOT errors!!









IPCC is not part of the peer-review process. Dont be mistaken with political vs science


Where do you think the 34,000 comments come from, Progs?
You may like to have a look here?
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/ipcc-principles/ipcc-principles-appendix-a.pdf

On 2nd thoughts, you probably wouldn't, because it won't make any difference, no matter what is said, your mind is made up!
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Re: 31,422 errors in IPCC report
Reply #71 - Jan 18th, 2013 at 12:17am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 18th, 2013 at 12:10am:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 18th, 2013 at 12:03am:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 11:59pm:
Maqqa wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:58pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:52pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 10:09am:
Since when have "comments" been "errors"...Maqqa has let himself down again  Grin


I agree, she has!



agreeing with adel makes you even worse than adel

read the article again - they wouldn't need extra resources if it were "comments"

they need resources to fix the errors that's why they said everyone of the comments need to be addressed


1) I already read it!

2) It says nothing about needing extra resources!

3) Comments are parts of the normal peer review process, they are NOT errors!!









IPCC is not part of the peer-review process. Dont be mistaken with political vs science


Where do you think the 34,000 comments come from, Progs?
You may like to have a look here?
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/ipcc-principles/ipcc-principles-appendix-a.pdf

On 2nd thoughts, you probably wouldn't, because it won't make any difference, no matter what is said, your mind is made up!

It is not part of the peer-review. It can only and should only be a discussion of what has already been peer-reviewed and the political part of IPCC is trying to put it all together.

The problem is, they have advocates and non-peer-reviewed information. They are as dodgy as hell, getting better.
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Reply #72 - Jan 18th, 2013 at 4:20am
 
Maqqa wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:58pm:
perceptions_now wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 7:52pm:
adelcrow wrote on Jan 17th, 2013 at 10:09am:
Since when have "comments" been "errors"...Maqqa has let himself down again  Grin


I agree, she has!



agreeing with adel makes you even worse than adel

read the article again - they wouldn't need extra resources if it were "comments"

they need resources to fix the errors that's why they said everyone of the comments need to be addressed


It isnt even news. Every report has to have the errors fixed.

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Reply #73 - Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:43pm
 
the IPCC reportas are usually half-fiction and the rest bad science.

nothing new here...
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Reply #74 - Jan 27th, 2013 at 12:00am
 
This is IPCC at their pathetic best. Busted again for being just political environmental activists.


Critics are blasting a draft U.N. climate change report that combines studies by advocacy groups like the World Wildlife Fund and Greenpeace alongside scientific research papers -- the same issue that led independent auditors to slam the U.N.'s last report.

“You'd think that the IPCC would have learned its lesson, that it would have told its authors not to rely on these sorts of publications,” said Donna Laframboise, the head of nofrakkingconsensus.com, an investigative website skeptical of the scientific consensus on global warming.

“The report currently includes, amongst its list of references, nine separate publications produced wholly or in part by the WWF,” Laframboise told FoxNews.com.

This isn’t the first time the WWF has been used as a source in a climate assessment report by the U.N.'s IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. In 2007, the panel relied on statements made in a WWF article to predict that the Himalayan glaciers would melt by 2035. That claim was based on nothing more than a remark that a scientist made in a 1999 interview with New Scientistmagazine.

A 2010 audit by a panel of scientists from around the world called for change, meaning less so-called "gray literature," and the IPCC apologized for the error.


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