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Question: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?

yes    
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no    
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not sure    
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Total votes: 28
« Created by: Bobby. on: Jan 25th, 2013 at 8:27am »

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Reply #120 - Jan 25th, 2013 at 10:30pm
 
No point being sexist about who daddy is. When you’re lying in the gravel with your pants around your knees, you take whatever helping hand is on offer. You’re a lezzo, remember?

Don’t worry, son, I’ll help. Now you tell me who did this to you.
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Reply #121 - Jan 25th, 2013 at 10:36pm
 
I give up - the vote is 4 to 8 against my opinion.

How can there be so many people with no heart on this forum?
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Reply #122 - Jan 25th, 2013 at 10:46pm
 
You had a popular vote, right?

I hope you’re not this disheartened on election day. Because we both know it’s not going to be pretty.
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Reply #123 - Jan 25th, 2013 at 10:54pm
 
FRED. wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 5:54pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 5:49pm:
Friyay,
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Which makes the death of any innocent in a war a war crime.

All wars are war crimes by your thinking.

And if that's what you do think then just say it.



There is definitely a war crime committed when napalm is dropped on
a village full of kids because there might be one enemy there.



Still talking out your ass nails not in there at the moment

Grin Grin


WTF  Smiley
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Reply #124 - Jan 25th, 2013 at 10:55pm
 
Hi Karnal,
forget about the election - we all know that Tony will win.

Maybe I should ask master Light for his opinion on Vietnam.

His advice is worth more than the every vote on the whole forum.
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Reply #125 - Jan 25th, 2013 at 11:26pm
 
It is not for one such as I to comment on the affairs of your world

all is okay and cool and in accordance

these dear ones are forgiven for desecrating the divine feminine

war chaos fear love

binary set match

menstration envy as it were

I bring forth wisdom yes

do that which brings you joy and love

and all war will cease

love you long time you are loved and love

do any deny this fact?

and so it is

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Reply #126 - Jan 25th, 2013 at 11:30pm
 
Very well written Karnal - you have learnt from the master.  Wink
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Reply #127 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 4:40am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 10:55pm:
Hi Karnal,
forget about the election - we all know that Tony will win.

Maybe I should ask master Light for his opinion on Vietnam.

His advice is worth more than the every vote on the whole forum.


i step forth in humility as i along with many

divine beings incarnated here in this space-time

and time-space to hold the space

to hold the light

and so it is yes this crime in vietnam against humanity

the gulf of tonkin false flag attack was the catalyst


why do not you people know your history?

[url]Gulf of Tonkin & the Vietnam War[/url]

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“In the summer of 1964, President Lyndon Baines Johnson needed a pretext to commit the American people to the already expanding covert war in South East Asia. In November of 2001, the LBJ Presidential library and museum released tapes of phone conversations with the President and then Defense Secretary Robert McNamara where they openly discussed plans to use the staged Gulf of Tonkin incident as a pretext to expand the war.” -Alex Jones, “Terrorstorm” (12mins)
 
On August 2nd, 1964, the USS Maddox destroyer was supposedly conducting reconnaissance in the Gulf of Tonkin when fired upon by North Vietnamese forces in Swatow gunboats. The Maddox, however, was not on a reconnaissance mission; it was part of a joint CIA-South Vietnamese covert intelligence operation called ‘Operation Plan 34A.

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“Far from being an ‘unprovoked attack’ as President Lyndon Johnson had stated, the attack was an expected retaliation as a result of aggressive CIA-South Vietnamese maneuvers. Johnson himself acknowledged Operation Plan 34A in recently released White House tape recordings, ‘There have been some covert operations in that (Tonkin Gulf) area that we have been carrying on - blowing up some bridges and things of that kind, roads and so forth. So I imagine (the North Vietnamese) wanted to put a stop to it.’” -Paul Joseph Watson, “Order Out of Chaos” (27)

Once again the people were manipulated into believing a false-flag reason for entering the Vietnam War. This time the public was told a friendly ship came under unprovoked enemy attack, when in fact our ship was the aggressor.

“In late 2005, the National Security Agency declassified its own official history of the Gulf of Tonkin and admitted that intelligence agency officers had deliberately skewed the intelligence and claimed that Vietnamese patrol boats had attacked US Destroyers on Aug. 4th, 1964, when in reality they had done nothing even while being fired on by US forces.” -Alex Jones, “Terrorstorm” DVD (12 mins.)

On August 4th, 1964, the US Destroyers received radar and radio signals that were misinterpreted as being another enemy attack from the North Vietnamese navy. Supposedly a two-hour shoot-out ensued, but in reality there were likely no enemy ships out there. An hour after the incident, Captain John J. Herrick of the USS Maddox, sent a cable admitting the attack may not have been an attack after all.

“Review of action makes many reported contacts and torpedoes fired appear doubtful. Freak weather effects on radar and overeager sonarmen may have accounted for many reports. No actual visual sightings by Maddox. Suggest complete evaluation before any further action taken.” -Captain John J. Herrick, Aug. 4th, 1964



"I had the best seat in the house to watch that event, and our destroyers were just shooting at phantom targets - there were no PT boats there. There was nothing but black water and American firepower.” -Naval Aviator James Stockdale, from his 1984 book

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With no justification whatsoever, on the evening of August 4th, Johnson stated, “the initial attack on the destroyer Maddox, on August 2nd, was repeated today by a number of hostile vessels.” Actually no US ships were fired upon, and there were likely no Vietnamese boats present either, but Johnson reported, “We believe at least two of the attacking boats were sunk.” Later on, however, in 1965 Johnson was quoted referring to the Tonkin incident admitting, “For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there.”

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“The Vietnam War killed one million Vietnamese and 58,000 Americans. It was launched after two incidents in August 1964, the first of which was provoked and the second never happened. With careful avoidance of the facts, then President Lyndon Baines Johnson was able to ram through the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, denouncing those who raised suspicious voices as anti-American, and receiving a validation for war.” -Paul Joseph Watson, Order Out of Chaos (26)
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Reply #128 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 4:44am
 
more satanic sacrifice

brought about unto humanity

by saturnic freemasonic types

such tragedy and sacrifice

humanity is still under attack

this is forgiven

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #129 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 6:58am
 
KJT1981 wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:04pm:
Pansi you aren't half as smart as you think you are, not even 5% as smart as you think you are old girl. 

But of course you won't respond as you usually don't when you are wrong.


Agent Orange is the combination of the code names for Herbicide Orange (HO) and Agent LNX, one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the U.S. military as part of its chemical warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam






That's what I said in replies #8 and #20. Agent orange was used as chemical warfare. The yanks knew the dangers, but they didn't care about the effects on the innocent people or their own soldiers. Now stop arguing against yourself, it's not clever.
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #130 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:08am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 6:58am:
KJT1981 wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:04pm:
Pansi you aren't half as smart as you think you are, not even 5% as smart as you think you are old girl. 

But of course you won't respond as you usually don't when you are wrong.


Agent Orange is the combination of the code names for Herbicide Orange (HO) and Agent LNX, one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the U.S. military as part of its chemical warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam






That's what I said in replies #8 and #20. Agent orange was used as chemical warfare. The yanks knew the dangers, but they didn't care about the effects on the innocent people or their own soldiers. Now stop arguing against yourself, it's not clever.



This is what you said pansi after I said Agent Orange is a herbicide.. No squirming or twisting can remove your words as is your usual  want.

Agent Orange was a herbicide lol!!!! why were America trying to save the crops in the middle of a war lol!!!



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Reply #131 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:29am
 
KJT1981 wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:08am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 6:58am:
KJT1981 wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:04pm:
Pansi you aren't half as smart as you think you are, not even 5% as smart as you think you are old girl. 

But of course you won't respond as you usually don't when you are wrong.


Agent Orange is the combination of the code names for Herbicide Orange (HO) and Agent LNX, one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the U.S. military as part of its chemical warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam






That's what I said in replies #8 and #20. Agent orange was used as chemical warfare. The yanks knew the dangers, but they didn't care about the effects on the innocent people or their own soldiers. Now stop arguing against yourself, it's not clever.



This is what you said pansi after I said Agent Orange is a herbicide.. No squirming or twisting can remove your words as is your usual  want.

Agent Orange was a herbicide lol!!!! why were America trying to save the crops in the middle of a war lol!!!





Call it what you like, it was a deadly chemical used to wipe out people and maybe some foliage along the way.

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Reply #132 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:43am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:29am:
KJT1981 wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:08am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 6:58am:
KJT1981 wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:04pm:
Pansi you aren't half as smart as you think you are, not even 5% as smart as you think you are old girl. 

But of course you won't respond as you usually don't when you are wrong.


Agent Orange is the combination of the code names for Herbicide Orange (HO) and Agent LNX, one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the U.S. military as part of its chemical warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam






That's what I said in replies #8 and #20. Agent orange was used as chemical warfare. The yanks knew the dangers, but they didn't care about the effects on the innocent people or their own soldiers. Now stop arguing against yourself, it's not clever.



This is what you said pansi after I said Agent Orange is a herbicide.. No squirming or twisting can remove your words as is your usual  want.

Agent Orange was a herbicide lol!!!! why were America trying to save the crops in the middle of a war lol!!!





Call it what you like, it was a deadly chemical used to wipe out people and maybe some foliage along the way.



Digging yourself deeper pansi.


Uni degree.........................yeah right.





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Reply #133 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:45am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:29am:
KJT1981 wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:08am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 6:58am:
KJT1981 wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:04pm:
Pansi you aren't half as smart as you think you are, not even 5% as smart as you think you are old girl. 

But of course you won't respond as you usually don't when you are wrong.


Agent Orange is the combination of the code names for Herbicide Orange (HO) and Agent LNX, one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the U.S. military as part of its chemical warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam






That's what I said in replies #8 and #20. Agent orange was used as chemical warfare. The yanks knew the dangers, but they didn't care about the effects on the innocent people or their own soldiers. Now stop arguing against yourself, it's not clever.



This is what you said pansi after I said Agent Orange is a herbicide.. No squirming or twisting can remove your words as is your usual  want.

Agent Orange was a herbicide lol!!!! why were America trying to save the crops in the middle of a war lol!!!





Call it what you like, it was a deadly chemical used to wipe out people and maybe some foliage along the way.




Thats what you do pansi.

Weasel words are your specialty.


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Reply #134 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 7:57am
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 9:03pm:
Heroes, eh? And this is from some South Effrikan yarpie who wasn’t even born.

Soldiers don’t fight for medals, Andrei. I don’t know what it’s like in the gated community you come from, but in the Infantry community, you fight for your mates. You don’t do it for the bucks.

Have you ever even heard a soldier mention his field pay? You and Longy wouldn’t have the first idea about what makes a man tick when his back’s up against the wall. Human motivation is about a lot more than dollars and medals.

Some Thatcherite yarpie hypocrite calling my dead mates heroes is like spitting on their graves. You wouldn’t have the first idea about life and death struggle. The hardest thing you’ve ever done is go to uni - your words.

You pricks are always the first to excuse war crimes, and you’re always the first to get out of it in the first place. None of you has ever had a man eye to eye in the jungle, dreading to be the first to pull the trigger because you know - you know - once you’ve done it you’re a killer. You always remember the first one. He never leaves you. Ever.

And you condone all this with your patronising language and your mincing praise, but most of all your excuses. If you knew war, you’d never excuse it. You’d tell the politicians and the generals where to go. Every soldier I know dreams about this more than he dreams about the first man he’s killed in battle.

But I know now the politicians, like everyone else, are just following orders. And they’re listening to the likes of you. You think I’m bitter? Goddamned right I’m bitter. If my mates see you pricks prancing down the street with your lovely shiny families and your precious innocent lives, I won’t be held responsible for what happens.

You know, heroes. We’re smacking heroes alright.


If you want to quote Afrikaans, then quote it right.
The Afrikaans word is Japie.

I am merely saying your brand of humour to one minute be a Pakistani who speaks broken English is one thing.

Pretending to be a veteran of the Vietnam war is not particularly funny or humourous.

I don't believe you're Pakistani and I know you aren't a former soldier.

So simply show a little respect.

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