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Question: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?

yes    
  12 (42.9%)
no    
  15 (53.6%)
not sure    
  1 (3.6%)




Total votes: 28
« Created by: Bobby. on: Jan 25th, 2013 at 8:27am »

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #135 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:10am
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 9:03pm:
Heroes, eh? And this is from some South Effrikan yarpie who wasn’t even born.

Soldiers don’t fight for medals, Andrei. I don’t know what it’s like in the gated community you come from, but in the Infantry community, you fight for your mates. You don’t do it for the bucks.

Have you ever even heard a soldier mention his field pay? You and Longy wouldn’t have the first idea about what makes a man tick when his back’s up against the wall. Human motivation is about a lot more than dollars and medals.

Some Thatcherite yarpie hypocrite calling my dead mates heroes is like spitting on their graves. You wouldn’t have the first idea about life and death struggle. The hardest thing you’ve ever done is go to uni - your words.

You pricks are always the first to excuse war crimes, and you’re always the first to get out of it in the first place. None of you has ever had a man eye to eye in the jungle, dreading to be the first to pull the trigger because you know - you know - once you’ve done it you’re a killer. You always remember the first one. He never leaves you. Ever.

And you condone all this with your patronising language and your mincing praise, but most of all your excuses. If you knew war, you’d never excuse it. You’d tell the politicians and the generals where to go. Every soldier I know dreams about this more than he dreams about the first man he’s killed in battle.

But I know now the politicians, like everyone else, are just following orders. And they’re listening to the likes of you. You think I’m bitter? Goddamned right I’m bitter. If my mates see you pricks prancing down the street with your lovely shiny families and your precious innocent lives, I won’t be held responsible for what happens.

You know, heroes. We’re smacking heroes alright.



The Australasian Military Fraud

Often called by the derogatory term "wannabe" these are men and women who may or may not have served in the armed forces, but who fraudulently misrepresent themselves as having served; often in a theatre of war by their words and actions, and by wearing of medals and other accoutrements to military service to which they have no entitlement.

In recent years there has been uncertainty about who is entitled to wear US and Vietnamese decorations. The Australian government has instituted an application and verification method for all those who believe that they are entitled to foreign awards. Those without government notification or approval must be classified as a fraud, a "wannabe."

The impostor or fraud will push the line saying that they were "given" decorations in the field. This does not legitimise the wearing of the award. Official recognition was and still is supported with documentation and the written citation. It is known that some Vietnamese Commanders "awarded" American and Australian servicemen decorations for being nice, or for a favour, not for gallantry or service rendered.

Under the Defence Act, 1903 as amended, it is a federal offence to claim to be a returned soldier, sailor or airman, subject to six months' imprisonment and a fine of up to $3300. Further it is an offence to wear a service decoration to which you are not entitled, attracting additional penalties.

Worse though, is the cost to Australia's taxpayers who are picking up the tabs to the tune of perhaps million of dollars in payments and pensions to 'veterans' who have no legitimate claim to the title.

Worse still is the insult to genuine veterans of any conflict, who find their courage, honour and valour stolen by imposters both from within and outside their ranks. We will continue to ferret out those who misrepresent their service. More here.




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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #136 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:14am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 10:55pm:
Hi Karnal,
forget about the election - we all know that Tony will win.

Maybe I should ask master Light for his opinion on Vietnam.

His advice is worth more than the every vote on the whole forum.



The advice of master Light:

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and so it is yes this crime in vietnam against humanity



Did everyone read that?

Light has agreed with me and provided much evidence as such.

I have won the vote in my own eyes.

with much appreciation

namaste
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #137 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:19am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:14am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 10:55pm:
Hi Karnal,
forget about the election - we all know that Tony will win.

Maybe I should ask master Light for his opinion on Vietnam.

His advice is worth more than the every vote on the whole forum.



The advice of master Light:

Quote:
and so it is yes this crime in vietnam against humanity



Did everyone read that?

Light has agreed with me and provided much evidence as such.

I have won the vote in my own eyes.

with much appreciation

namaste



Jesus, you are full of it bobby. You think that having a certifiable looney agreeing with you makes you a winner?


Sheesh.

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Reply #138 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:22am
 
KJT - master light is the most enlightened being on the forum.

His opinion is worth a universe more than yours.

forgiven

namaste
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Reply #139 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:23am
 
Bobby, he is a fking idiot lunatic.

Nothing more.
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Reply #140 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:26am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:23am:
Bobby, he is a fking idiot lunatic.

Nothing more.



How dare you insult him.
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Reply #141 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:26am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:23am:
Bobby, he is a fking idiot lunatic.

Nothing more.



Don't forget that bobby seems to have nails on a pedestal Andrei.
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Reply #142 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:31am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:26am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:23am:
Bobby, he is a fking idiot lunatic.

Nothing more.





How dare you insult him.


He is a lunatic.

It is not an insult.

It is a statement of fact.

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Reply #143 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:32am
 
i do observe the ids andre and kjt1981 not focusing

upon the subject matter

its like these 2 i do observe with forgiveness are intent

on character assassination rather than the subject

in question..they show their hand and limp wrist

this does not effect unto the unanswered facts

of which they care little of

this was disclosed and in accordance with

the divine plan and so it is

all is well

be at peace

namaste

-:)

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Reply #144 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:32am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:23am:
Bobby, he is a fking idiot lunatic.

Nothing more.


He was a wharfie, you know...
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Reply #145 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:35am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:22am:
KJT - master light is the most enlightened being on the forum.

His opinion is worth a universe more than yours.

forgiven

namaste


i am honoured to be amongst such fine and noble beings

i bring forth and demonstrate gratitude unto as much

in service,

a humble messenger and traveller

namaste

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Reply #147 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:36am
 
The Heartless Felon wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:32am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:23am:
Bobby, he is a fking idiot lunatic.

Nothing more.


He was a wharfie, you know...


i am that i am
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #148 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:36am
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 8:32am:
i do observe the ids andre and kjt1981 not focusing

upon the subject matter

its like these 2 i do observe with forgiveness are intent

on character assassination rather than the subject

in question..they show their hand and limp wrist

this does not effect unto the unanswered facts


of which they care little of

this was disclosed and in accordance with

the divine plan and so it is

all is well

be at peace

namaste

-Smiley



Hi master Light,
sadly they do not have the intelligence to deal with facts -

they were not given the gift of a fully working brain & so can only post insults

it is not their fault

they are forgiven

namaste
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Idiot
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