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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #15 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:13am

its a bit ironic listening to the 'innocent civilian' line in times of war. Do a little bit of history and you will find that in ALL WARS anybody and any target in the opposing country was a valid target. Look at WW2 where entire cities were destroyed by both sides and nobody really commented much. it is only in recent campaigns with smart weapons that the idea of targetting only military targets has even come into play.

IM not defending it. Im saying that vietnam was not a war crime for targetting civilians. War itself is a crime.

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Reply #16 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:14am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:27am:

Just added a poll.

Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?

To me - killing innocent people is a war crime.

That makes every single war there ever was, a war crime, so well done there.

Maybe you should actually do some research instead of relying solely on your own prejudice and ignorance.

Let's leave that to pansi and co

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 107130 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime? Reply #17 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:21am FRED. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:12am: AS usual bobbybabe you dont know what your on about VNV Hi Fred, can't you do any more than troll? Try & grow a brain.
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #18 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:27am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

its a bit ironic listening to the 'innocent civilian' line in times of war. Do a little bit of history and you will find that in ALL WARS anybody and any target in the opposing country was a valid target. Look at WW2 where entire cities were destroyed by both sides and nobody really commented much. it is only in recent campaigns with smart weapons that the idea of targetting only military targets has even come into play.

IM not defending it. Im saying that vietnam was not a war crime for targetting civilians. War itself is a crime.

Come on Longy,
watch the video.
Villages were bombed that must have contained innocent women & children.
You're a Christian.
Would Christ have dropped those bombs on the kids?

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FRED. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3698	Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime? Reply #19 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:29am Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:21am: FRED. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:12am: AS usual bobbybabe you dont know what your on about VNV Hi Fred, can't you do any more than troll? Try & grow a brain. TRY the truth buggerwit the north invaded the south
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #20 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:34am

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:33am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:12am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

The US didn't start it.

That's not the point. They used agent orange on innocent village people.

There's still live bombs on the ground today blowing the legs of children clean off.

Do the yanks send the military to clean up their filth? No! It's left to the ex servicemen and charities to locate and destroy them.

America is guilty of war crimes and not just in Vietnam.

They should stay out of other countries affairs, there would be so much less death and destruction.

It's funny how the old Aussie boys stick up for America, when they wanted to use our soldiers for their Agent Orange experiments.

For someone that claims a uni degree you aren't real bright pansi. Agent Orange is a herbicide it is not used on "innocent village people".

So gas is used to power homes, so it wasn't used on the Jews.

Bullets are for hunting, they're never used to kill people.

There are live bombs and mines scattered through out many countries pansi including England. Should the Germans go in to help clean them up?

Check out landmines. Who laid the landmines in Sri Lanka, along the Thailand Burma border, El Salvador, Rwanda, The Falkland Islands.

Afghanistan, Angola and Cambodia have suffered 85 per cent of the world's land-mine casualties and they weren't laid by the USA.

As usual pansi you are talking through the wrong orifice.

Absolute lies. Cluster bombs???? dropped by the North Vietnamese?????

Agent Orange was a herbicide lol!!!! why were America trying to save the crops in the middle of a war lol!!!

Stick to Vietnam, that's the country of topic here.

You are trolling again, so I won't be responding to your idiotic posts.

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #21 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:36am

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:33am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:12am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

The US didn't start it.

That's not the point. They used agent orange on innocent village people.

There's still live bombs on the ground today blowing the legs of children clean off.

Do the yanks send the military to clean up their filth? No! It's left to the ex servicemen and charities to locate and destroy them.

America is guilty of war crimes and not just in Vietnam.

They should stay out of other countries affairs, there would be so much less death and destruction.

It's funny how the old Aussie boys stick up for America, when they wanted to use our soldiers for their Agent Orange experiments.

For someone that claims a uni degree you aren't real bright pansi. Agent Orange is a herbicide it is not used on "innocent village people".

There are live bombs and mines scattered through out many countries pansi including England. Should the Germans go in to help clean them up?

Check out landmines. Who laid the landmines in Sri Lanka, along the Thailand Burma border, El Salvador, Rwanda, The Falkland Islands.

Afghanistan, Angola and Cambodia have suffered 85 per cent of the world's land-mine casualties and they weren't laid by the USA.

As usual pansi you are talking through the wrong orifice.

Yes it was. And whenever it was done we had to wear gas masks all day in the city even though it wasnt in the city.

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #22 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:39am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

its a bit ironic listening to the 'innocent civilian' line in times of war. Do a little bit of history and you will find that in ALL WARS anybody and any target in the opposing country was a valid target. Look at WW2 where entire cities were destroyed by both sides and nobody really commented much. it is only in recent campaigns with smart weapons that the idea of targetting only military targets has even come into play.

IM not defending it. Im saying that vietnam was not a war crime for targetting civilians. War itself is a crime.

No one talks about Hiroshima or Nagasaki????

There's war and there's invasion.

There's killing and there's genecide.

My lai was not done in the name of war.

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #23 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:39am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:27am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

its a bit ironic listening to the 'innocent civilian' line in times of war. Do a little bit of history and you will find that in ALL WARS anybody and any target in the opposing country was a valid target. Look at WW2 where entire cities were destroyed by both sides and nobody really commented much. it is only in recent campaigns with smart weapons that the idea of targetting only military targets has even come into play.

IM not defending it. Im saying that vietnam was not a war crime for targetting civilians. War itself is a crime.

Come on Longy,
watch the video.
Villages were bombed that must have contained innocent women & children.
You're a Christian.
Would Christ have dropped those bombs on the kids?

do u even know what a war crime is?? clearly not. there is NOTHING about war that is pleasant and using your kindergarten terminology just shows your ignorance of this as it does in so many other topics.

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #24 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:41am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

its a bit ironic listening to the 'innocent civilian' line in times of war. Do a little bit of history and you will find that in ALL WARS anybody and any target in the opposing country was a valid target. Look at WW2 where entire cities were destroyed by both sides and nobody really commented much. it is only in recent campaigns with smart weapons that the idea of targetting only military targets has even come into play.

IM not defending it. Im saying that vietnam was not a war crime for targetting civilians. War itself is a crime.

No one talks about Hiroshima or Nagasaki????

There's war and there's invasion.

There's killing and there's genecide.

My lai was not done in the name of war.

my lai was an acknowledged war crime. nobody is pretending otherwise. horishima and nagasaki were not.

the difference is significant. the latter were acts of war in the pursuit of victory, the former was just a brutal massacre.

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #25 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:42am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:34am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:33am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:12am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

The US didn't start it.

That's not the point. They used agent orange on innocent village people.

There's still live bombs on the ground today blowing the legs of children clean off.

Do the yanks send the military to clean up their filth? No! It's left to the ex servicemen and charities to locate and destroy them.

America is guilty of war crimes and not just in Vietnam.

They should stay out of other countries affairs, there would be so much less death and destruction.

It's funny how the old Aussie boys stick up for America, when they wanted to use our soldiers for their Agent Orange experiments.

For someone that claims a uni degree you aren't real bright pansi. Agent Orange is a herbicide it is not used on "innocent village people".

So gas is used to power homes, so it wasn't used on the Jews.

Bullets are for hunting, they're never used to kill people.

There are live bombs and mines scattered through out many countries pansi including England. Should the Germans go in to help clean them up?

Check out landmines. Who laid the landmines in Sri Lanka, along the Thailand Burma border, El Salvador, Rwanda, The Falkland Islands.

Afghanistan, Angola and Cambodia have suffered 85 per cent of the world's land-mine casualties and they weren't laid by the USA.

As usual pansi you are talking through the wrong orifice.

Absolute lies. Cluster bombs???? dropped by the North Vietnamese?????

Agent Orange was a herbicide lol!!!! why were America trying to save the crops in the middle of a war lol!!!

Stick to Vietnam, that's the country of topic here.

You are trolling again, so I won't be responding to your idiotic posts.

AO was used to defoliate the jungle to make it easier to find the enemy FFS Angry

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #26 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:43am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:34am:

KJT1981 wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:33am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:12am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 7:43am:

The US didn't start it.

That's not the point. They used agent orange on innocent village people.

There's still live bombs on the ground today blowing the legs of children clean off.

Do the yanks send the military to clean up their filth? No! It's left to the ex servicemen and charities to locate and destroy them.

America is guilty of war crimes and not just in Vietnam.

They should stay out of other countries affairs, there would be so much less death and destruction.

It's funny how the old Aussie boys stick up for America, when they wanted to use our soldiers for their Agent Orange experiments.

For someone that claims a uni degree you aren't real bright pansi. Agent Orange is a herbicide it is not used on "innocent village people".

So gas is used to power homes, so it wasn't used on the Jews.

Bullets are for hunting, they're never used to kill people.

There are live bombs and mines scattered through out many countries pansi including England. Should the Germans go in to help clean them up?

Check out landmines. Who laid the landmines in Sri Lanka, along the Thailand Burma border, El Salvador, Rwanda, The Falkland Islands.

Afghanistan, Angola and Cambodia have suffered 85 per cent of the world's land-mine casualties and they weren't laid by the USA.

As usual pansi you are talking through the wrong orifice.

Absolute lies. Cluster bombs???? dropped by the North Vietnamese?????

Agent Orange was a herbicide lol!!!! why were America trying to save the crops in the middle of a war lol!!!

Stick to Vietnam, that's the country of topic here.

You are trolling again, so I won't be responding to your idiotic posts.

agent orange was a chemical deigned to drop all the leaves off trees making it near impossible for guerrillas to hide. it wasn't a herbicide.

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #27 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:47am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:27am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

its a bit ironic listening to the 'innocent civilian' line in times of war. Do a little bit of history and you will find that in ALL WARS anybody and any target in the opposing country was a valid target. Look at WW2 where entire cities were destroyed by both sides and nobody really commented much. it is only in recent campaigns with smart weapons that the idea of targetting only military targets has even come into play.

IM not defending it. Im saying that vietnam was not a war crime for targetting civilians. War itself is a crime.

Come on Longy,
watch the video.
Villages were bombed that must have contained innocent women & children.
You're a Christian.
Would Christ have dropped those bombs on the kids?

do u even know what a war crime is?? clearly not. there is NOTHING about war that is pleasant and using your kindergarten terminology just shows your ignorance of this as it does in so many other topics.

Don't avoid my question Longy -

Would Christ have dropped those bombs on the kids?

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #28 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:51am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:27am:

[quote author=gold_medal link=1359036904/15#15 date=1359069189]its a bit ironic listening to the 'innocent civilian' line in times of war. Do a little bit of history and you will find that in ALL WARS anybody and any target in the opposing country was a valid target. Look at WW2 where entire cities were destroyed by both sides and nobody really commented much. it is only in recent campaigns with smart weapons that the idea of targetting only military targets has even come into play.

IM not defending it. Im saying that vietnam was not a war crime for targetting civilians. War itself is a crime.

Come on Longy,
watch the video.
Villages were bombed that must have contained innocent women & children.
You're a Christian.
Would Christ have dropped those bombs on the kids?

do u even know what a war crime is?? clearly not. there is NOTHING about war that is pleasant and using your kindergarten terminology just shows your ignorance of this as it does in so many other topics.

Don't avoid my question Longy -

Would Christ have dropped those bombs on the kids?

[/quote

Chist didnt have a plane , the Jap did the Germans did Grin

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #29 - Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:51am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:47am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:27am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 25^th, 2013 at 9:13am:

its a bit ironic listening to the 'innocent civilian' line in times of war. Do a little bit of history and you will find that in ALL WARS anybody and any target in the opposing country was a valid target. Look at WW2 where entire cities were destroyed by both sides and nobody really commented much. it is only in recent campaigns with smart weapons that the idea of targetting only military targets has even come into play.

IM not defending it. Im saying that vietnam was not a war crime for targetting civilians. War itself is a crime.

Come on Longy,
watch the video.
Villages were bombed that must have contained innocent women & children.
You're a Christian.
Would Christ have dropped those bombs on the kids?

do u even know what a war crime is?? clearly not. there is NOTHING about war that is pleasant and using your kindergarten terminology just shows your ignorance of this as it does in so many other topics.

Don't avoid my question Longy -

Would Christ have dropped those bombs on the kids?

thats not thw question drongo. the question was if it was a war crime.

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Question: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
yes 12 (42.9%) no 15 (53.6%) not sure 1 (3.6%) Total votes: 28 « Created by: Bobby. on: Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:27am »