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Question: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?

yes    
  12 (42.9%)
no    
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not sure    
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Total votes: 28
« Created by: Bobby. on: Jan 25th, 2013 at 8:27am »

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Reply #180 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:58am
 
Dear master Light,
How was it possible that 8 posters on Ozpolitic's saw this video
on my introduction 1st page & yet could see no war crimes?

They are sighted yet cannot see.






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Reply #181 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 12:05pm
 
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Reply #182 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 12:23pm
 
this is fred !!

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Reply #183 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 12:41pm
 
Soren wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:39am:
Yes, and I'm ex-Jægerkorpset, or "Jæger" among comrades. Hunter.
"Plus Esse Quam Simultatur" Be more than you seem.

The exact reverse of the old mincing PB's motto: bignote yerself, daughter"


You? You’re just a mincing old Kraut tart. Old pricks like you are a disgrace to the memory of WWII veterans. The only thing you’ve hunted down is your false teeth to smile at the neighbour’s kiddies when they come home from school. Guten arbend, meine kinder.

And no, they don’t want to see the photos of you in your assistant station master’s uniform. Everybody knows you’re an old fraud.

The only person I’m engaging on the subject of Nam is the only other poster here who was there. What were you, Light? Gunner?
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Reply #184 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 12:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Dear master Light,
How was it possible that 8 posters on Ozpolitic's saw this video
on my introduction 1st page & yet could see no war crimes?

They are sighted yet cannot see.









If they don't acknowledge the crime, they don't have to face the consequences.
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Reply #185 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 1:10pm
 
Exactly. Most of them should be charged for crimes against humanity for being heartless pricks who think war’s a bit of a video game.

These kids don’t have the first idea what Nam was like.
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Reply #186 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 1:29pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 1:10pm:
These kids don’t have the first idea what Nam was like.


maybe, but then, neither do you.
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Reply #187 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 2:06pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Dear master Light,
How was it possible that 8 posters on Ozpolitic's saw this video
on my introduction 1st page & yet could see no war crimes?


They are sighted yet cannot see.








Gee bobby, do you think it might be that there are people here who actually have their own opinions, and even prefer to use the dictionary definition of 'war crime' instead of the whingingbobby definition???
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #188 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 2:09pm
 
Gizmo,
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Gee bobby, do you think it might be that there are people here who actually have their own opinions, and even prefer to use the dictionary definition of 'war crime' instead of the whingingbobby definition???


master Light - as the ultimate arbitrator has given his opinion which stands in agreement with mine.
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Reply #189 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 2:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 2:09pm:
Gizmo,
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Gee bobby, do you think it might be that there are people here who actually have their own opinions, and even prefer to use the dictionary definition of 'war crime' instead of the whingingbobby definition???


master Light - as the ultimate arbitrator has given his opinion which stands in agreement with mine.


And the opinions of the pair of you don't amount to a fart in an elevator..
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #190 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 2:18pm
 
... wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 1:29pm:
Karnal wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 1:10pm:
These kids don’t have the first idea what Nam was like.


maybe, but then, neither do you.


Reported for libel.
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #191 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 2:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 2:09pm:
Gizmo,
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Gee bobby, do you think it might be that there are people here who actually have their own opinions, and even prefer to use the dictionary definition of 'war crime' instead of the whingingbobby definition???


master Light - as the ultimate arbitrator has given his opinion which stands in agreement with mine.


Just as I thought.  You are both d!ckheads,
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Reply #192 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 3:04pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 2:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Dear master Light,
How was it possible that 8 posters on Ozpolitic's saw this video
on my introduction 1st page & yet could see no war crimes?


They are sighted yet cannot see.








Gee bobby, do you think it might be that there are people here who actually have their own opinions, and even prefer to use the dictionary definition of 'war crime' instead of the whingingbobby definition???


Let’s see. Noun. Crimes committed against an enemy, prisoners of war or subjects in wartime that violate international agreements or, as in the case of genocide, are offences against humanity.

Now killing a million people in Nam alone might not be technically an offense against humanity, but I can think of a few known crimes committed against the enemy and the civilian population that meet this definition.

The Diem regime committed numerous war crmes including torture, the execution of prisoners of war without trial, and many breaches of the Geneva Convention. The CIA, US military, and Australian covert forces actively and knowingly aided this regime, and participated in torture, assassination and terrorism of the civilian population for almost a decade before war was even declared. The Amerikan covert Phoenix Program assassinated tens of thousands of Vietnamese, and was supported by the Australian Army. Diem was a cold war hero. He visited Australia in 1957 and was greeted warmly by both Menzies and the ALP.

These facts alone constitute war crimes. There’s a number of reasons the Amerikan embassy spent the final hours of the fall of Saigon shredding documents, and arse covering was up there.

As the Light has shown, the Gulf of Tonkin incident was staged. As I’ve shown, Menzies announced Australian troop deployment before Diem sent a letter "asking for help". The Vietnam war was a war crime before it even became a war. Ask the member Red Barron. He’s still sworn to secrecy 50 years on.

There are no two ways about it. The basis of the war, the violation of a number of treaties and a :international agreements, the deployment of troops, the proceeding covert action, the military support of the war criminal Diem, and the air strikes on the civilian populations of neighbouring countries all constitute war crimes.
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Reply #193 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 3:14pm
 
Karnal wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 3:04pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 2:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Dear master Light,
How was it possible that 8 posters on Ozpolitic's saw this video
on my introduction 1st page & yet could see no war crimes?


They are sighted yet cannot see.








Gee bobby, do you think it might be that there are people here who actually have their own opinions, and even prefer to use the dictionary definition of 'war crime' instead of the whingingbobby definition???


Let’s see. Noun. Crimes committed against an enemy, prisoners of war or subjects in wartime that violate international agreements or, as in the case of genocide, are offences against humanity.

Now killing a million people in Nam alone might not be technically an offense against humanity, but I can think of a few known crimes committed against the enemy and the civilian population that meet this definition.

The Diem regime committed numerous war crmes including torture, the execution of prisoners of war without trial, and many breaches of the Geneva Convention. The CIA, US military, and Australian covert forces actively and knowingly aided this regime, and participated in torture, assassination and terrorism of the civilian population for almost a decade before war was even declared. The Amerikan covert Phoenix Program assassinated tens of thousands of Vietnamese, and was supported by the Australian Army. Diem was a cold war hero. He visited Australia in 1957 and was greeted warmly by both Menzies and the ALP.

These facts alone constitute war crimes. There’s a number of reasons the Amerikan embassy spent the final hours of the fall of Saigon shredding documents, and arse covering was up there.

As the Light has shown, the Gulf of Tonkin incident was staged. As I’ve shown, Menzies announced Australian troop deployment before Diem sent a letter "asking for help". The Vietnam war was a war crime before it even became a war. Ask the member Red Barron. He’s still sworn to secrecy 50 years on.

There are no two ways about it. The basis of the war, the violation of a number of treaties and a :international agreements, the deployment of troops, the proceeding covert action, the military support of the war criminal Diem, and the air strikes on the civilian populations of neighbouring countries all constitute war crimes.


Which 'Tonkin Incident'?? the first one, or the second one...(bear in mind, If wharfy says it, it must be bullshit...

And even if there were unknown war crimes committed DURING the Vietnam War, that does NOT make the conflict as a whole a war crime..

Unless there is a war, you can't have war crimes, now can you??
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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #194 - Jan 26th, 2013 at 5:45pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 26th, 2013 at 11:58am:
Dear master Light,
How was it possible that 8 posters on Ozpolitic's saw this video
on my introduction 1st page & yet could see no war crimes?

They are sighted yet cannot see.








Your thread is titled "Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?" NOT were war crimes committed in the Vietnam war?

I was one that voted no.

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