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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 107161 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime? Reply #226 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 12:17am Very sad - there can be no doubt that many war crimes were committed in Vietnam.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime? Reply #227 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 12:23am Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 12:17am: Very sad - there can be no doubt that many war crimes were committed in Vietnam. True, there were war crimes committed in the Vietnam War....BUT the war itself wasn't one of them.. War is never a crime.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96713	Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime? Reply #228 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 12:45am You’re not wrong there, son. If it wasn’t for war, blokes like me and the Light would have been out of a job in our day. But war is sometimes a crime. The interim Iraqi government convicted Saddam with the illegal invasion of Kuwait, so it’s possible. It just depends on who gets you for it.
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #229 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 4:39am

Karnal wrote on Jan 26^th, 2013 at 12:41pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 26^th, 2013 at 11:39am:

Yes, and I'm ex-Jægerkorpset, or "Jæger" among comrades. Hunter.
"Plus Esse Quam Simultatur" Be more than you seem.

The exact reverse of the old mincing PB's motto: bignote yerself, daughter"

You? You’re just a mincing old Kraut tart. Old pricks like you are a disgrace to the memory of WWII veterans. The only thing you’ve hunted down is your false teeth to smile at the neighbour’s kiddies when they come home from school. Guten arbend, meine kinder.

And no, they don’t want to see the photos of you in your assistant station master’s uniform. Everybody knows you’re an old fraud.

The only person I’m engaging on the subject of Nam is the only other poster here who was there. What were you, Light? Gunner?

I was there but i wasnt a soldier

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #230 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 4:42am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2013 at 2:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 26^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

Gizmo,
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Gee bobby, do you think it might be that there are people here who actually have their own opinions, and even prefer to use the dictionary definition of 'war crime' instead of the whingingbobby definition???

master Light - as the ultimate arbitrator has given his opinion which stands in agreement with mine.

And the opinions of the pair of you don't amount to a fart in an elevator..

According to you and soren. Others may not be so partisan.

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #231 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 4:49am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 12:23am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 12:17am:

Very sad - there can be no doubt that many war crimes were committed in Vietnam.

True, there were war crimes committed in the Vietnam War....BUT the war itself wasn't one of them..

War is never a crime.

Why not? Because then you would have to say invading another country is a crime?

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #232 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 4:56am

Karnal wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 12:45am:

You’re not wrong there, son. If it wasn’t for war, blokes like me and the Light would have been out of a job in our day.

But war is sometimes a crime. The interim Iraqi government convicted Saddam with the illegal invasion of Kuwait, so it’s possible.

It just depends on who gets you for it.

Karnal, the likelihood you were there is about the same as I was there.
Which is 0%.

Its offensive to soldiers who were to carry on your wind-up campaign on here by now pretending to be John Rambo.

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #233 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 5:00am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 4:39am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 26^th, 2013 at 12:41pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 26^th, 2013 at 11:39am:

Yes, and I'm ex-Jægerkorpset, or "Jæger" among comrades. Hunter.
"Plus Esse Quam Simultatur" Be more than you seem.

The exact reverse of the old mincing PB's motto: bignote yerself, daughter"

You? You’re just a mincing old Kraut tart. Old pricks like you are a disgrace to the memory of WWII veterans. The only thing you’ve hunted down is your false teeth to smile at the neighbour’s kiddies when they come home from school. Guten arbend, meine kinder.

And no, they don’t want to see the photos of you in your assistant station master’s uniform. Everybody knows you’re an old fraud.

The only person I’m engaging on the subject of Nam is the only other poster here who was there. What were you, Light? Gunner?

I was there but i wasnt a soldier

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Heck of a choice for a vacation.

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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime? Reply #234 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 6:25am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 5:00am: Heck of a choice for a vacation. Actually Vietnam is a great choice for hols, Im going there this year, really looking forward to it.
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #235 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 6:42am

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 6:25am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 5:00am:

Heck of a choice for a vacation.

Actually Vietnam is a great choice for hols, Im going there this year, really looking forward to it.

Don't disagree bigol.
However I imagine 1968 - 1975 it wouldn't be as pleasant.

Not exactly Majorca.

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Reply #236 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 7:36am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 6:42am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 6:25am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 5:00am:

Heck of a choice for a vacation.

Actually Vietnam is a great choice for hols, Im going there this year, really looking forward to it.

Don't disagree bigol.
However I imagine 1968 - 1975 it wouldn't be as pleasant.

Not exactly Majorca.

Typical though that you would call it a "vacation".

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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #237 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 7:50am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 7:36am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 6:42am:

BigOl64 wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 6:25am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 5:00am:

Heck of a choice for a vacation.

Actually Vietnam is a great choice for hols, Im going there this year, really looking forward to it.

Don't disagree bigol.
However I imagine 1968 - 1975 it wouldn't be as pleasant.

Not exactly Majorca.

Typical though that you would call it a "vacation".

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Reply #238 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 7:59am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 4:42am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 26^th, 2013 at 2:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 26^th, 2013 at 2:09pm:

Gizmo,
Quote:

Gee bobby, do you think it might be that there are people here who actually have their own opinions, and even prefer to use the dictionary definition of 'war crime' instead of the whingingbobby definition???

master Light - as the ultimate arbitrator has given his opinion which stands in agreement with mine.

And the opinions of the pair of you don't amount to a fart in an elevator..

According to you and soren. Others may not be so partisan.

SOB

It' not about partisan, it's about sanity and veracity

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
Reply #239 - Jan 27^th, 2013 at 8:01am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 4:49am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 12:23am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2013 at 12:17am:

Very sad - there can be no doubt that many war crimes were committed in Vietnam.

True, there were war crimes committed in the Vietnam War....BUT the war itself wasn't one of them..

War is never a crime.

Why not? Because then you would have to say invading another country is a crime?

SOB

Nope, because War is just 'full contact' diplomacy.

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Question: Was the Vietnam war a War Crime?
yes 12 (42.9%) no 15 (53.6%) not sure 1 (3.6%) Total votes: 28 « Created by: Bobby. on: Jan 25^th, 2013 at 8:27am »