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Re: Scientists flummoxed by shrinking glaciers.
Reply #60 - Feb 10^th, 2013 at 9:06am

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 8:54am:

Glaciers have been in retreat since well before the great global warming con, fairly regular occurence apparantly, of course the global warming cult thinks glaciers just stayed the same size for millions of years Grin

Of course there has been climate change in the past driven by non anthropogenic factors It's a strawman, innocent, because no one seriously disputes this.

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Reply #61 - Feb 10^th, 2013 at 2:05pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 9^th, 2013 at 10:34pm:

Forget about Monckton, what about all the glaciers that are growing ... explanation?

Yes. Some glaciers are growing. In may cases this may be becasue warming is causing more snowfall. Or it may simply be because there has been no significant warming in these particular locations due to local climate conditions.

But the vast majority of glaciers are shrinking, and overall glacial mass balance is decreasing.

THis is beyond doubt.

THis is because the planet is warming

It has been warming for decades - and especially in the last 12 years - despite what you may have read in the Daily Mail.

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Reply #62 - Feb 10^th, 2013 at 8:22pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 9^th, 2013 at 10:34pm:

Forget about Monckton, what about all the glaciers that are growing ... explanation?

Yes. Some glaciers are growing. In may cases this may be becasue warming is causing more snowfall. Or it may simply be because there has been no significant warming in these particular locations due to local climate conditions.

But the vast majority of glaciers are shrinking, and overall glacial mass balance is decreasing.

THis is beyond doubt.

THis is because the planet is warming

It has been warming for decades - and especially in the last 12 years - despite what you may have read in the Daily Mail.

Thanks for explaining that to me bunny I think I got it now ... warming is causing colding, global warming is not global warming its only local warming except in the case of where its getting colder then its global cooling caused by global warming and temperature is going up even though its not going up at all, got it now thanks Cheesy

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49111 At my desk.	Re: Scientists flummoxed by shrinking glaciers. Reply #63 - Feb 10^th, 2013 at 9:29pm It is understandable that someone in Australia may not realise this, but decreasing temperature does not always mean more snow. In many places of the world you get more snow when it is warmer.
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Reply #64 - Feb 10^th, 2013 at 9:30pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 8:22pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 9^th, 2013 at 10:34pm:

Forget about Monckton, what about all the glaciers that are growing ... explanation?

Yes. Some glaciers are growing. In may cases this may be becasue warming is causing more snowfall. Or it may simply be because there has been no significant warming in these particular locations due to local climate conditions.

But the vast majority of glaciers are shrinking, and overall glacial mass balance is decreasing.

THis is beyond doubt.

THis is because the planet is warming

It has been warming for decades - and especially in the last 12 years - despite what you may have read in the Daily Mail.

Thanks for explaining that to me bunny I think I got it now ... warming is causing colding, global warming is not global warming its only local warming except in the case of where its getting colder then its global cooling caused by global warming and temperature is going up even though its not going up at all, got it now thanks Cheesy

No, I don't think you have got it now..

Warming causes more precipitation. Warming causes more snow.

And global warming causes climate change. Not all climates will necessarily get warmer.

I am happy to further explain the bits you don't understand for you

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Reply #65 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 6:17pm

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 9:29pm:

It is understandable that someone in Australia may not realise this, but decreasing temperature does not always mean more snow. In many places of the world you get more snow when it is warmer.

In Scotland, the phrase "warm enough for snow" is often used. Of course it's not "warm" in our terms.

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Reply #66 - Feb 12^th, 2013 at 4:13pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 9:30pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 8:22pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 9^th, 2013 at 10:34pm:

Forget about Monckton, what about all the glaciers that are growing ... explanation?

Yes. Some glaciers are growing. In may cases this may be becasue warming is causing more snowfall. Or it may simply be because there has been no significant warming in these particular locations due to local climate conditions.

But the vast majority of glaciers are shrinking, and overall glacial mass balance is decreasing.

THis is beyond doubt.

THis is because the planet is warming

It has been warming for decades - and especially in the last 12 years - despite what you may have read in the Daily Mail.

Thanks for explaining that to me bunny I think I got it now ... warming is causing colding, global warming is not global warming its only local warming except in the case of where its getting colder then its global cooling caused by global warming and temperature is going up even though its not going up at all, got it now thanks Cheesy

No, I don't think you have got it now..

Warming causes more precipitation. Warming causes more snow.

And global warming causes climate change. Not all climates will necessarily get warmer.

I am happy to further explain the bits you don't understand for you

iNNOCENT BYSTANDER UNDERSTANDS IT'S A COMPLEX SYSTEM, BEWILDERING TO ALL.

SNOWLINES CHANGE.... ICE GETS THICKER BUT LESS EXPANSIVE... WIND PATTERNS CHANGE

BUSINESS IS BUSINESS AND THAT IS ALL THESE BLOKES WILL PUSH, THE FACT THAT A COMPLEX SYSTEM IS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND.

BUT WHAT THEY CAN NEVER FOOL THE PEOPLE ABOUT IS THAT

THE HEAT CONTENT

OF THE ATMOSPHERE IS INCREASING!

IT'S ALL ABOUT HEAT ENGINES AS ALL ENERGY ENDS UP AS HEAT!

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Re: Scientists flummoxed by shrinking glaciers.
Reply #67 - Feb 16^th, 2013 at 8:40am

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 9:29pm:

It is understandable that someone in Australia may not realise this, but decreasing temperature does not always mean more snow. In many places of the world you get more snow when it is warmer.

There are some outstanding communicators out there doing an exceptional job explaining how climate change is impacting on our weather.

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Re: Scientists flummoxed by shrinking glaciers.
Reply #68 - Feb 16^th, 2013 at 11:15am

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 8:22pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 10^th, 2013 at 2:05pm:

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 9^th, 2013 at 10:34pm:

Forget about Monckton, what about all the glaciers that are growing ... explanation?

Yes. Some glaciers are growing. In may cases this may be becasue warming is causing more snowfall. Or it may simply be because there has been no significant warming in these particular locations due to local climate conditions.

But the vast majority of glaciers are shrinking, and overall glacial mass balance is decreasing.

THis is beyond doubt.

THis is because the planet is warming

It has been warming for decades - and especially in the last 12 years - despite what you may have read in the Daily Mail.

Thanks for explaining that to me bunny I think I got it now ... warming is causing colding, global warming is not global warming its only local warming except in the case of where its getting colder then its global cooling caused by global warming and temperature is going up even though its not going up at all, got it now thanks Cheesy

Global Warming is increasing heat content in the atmosphere: it's all about heat engines!

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Re: Scientists flummoxed by shrinking glaciers.
Reply #69 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:40pm

MOTR wrote on Feb 9^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 6^th, 2013 at 11:17pm:

I see the red crash helmet lobby is still at it peddling their doom and gloom.

I still see you have nothing of substance to add to the debate.

And you are still peddling the same wheel around.
That's no life for a hamster. Shocked

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Re: Scientists flummoxed by shrinking glaciers.
Reply #70 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 1:39pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 12:40pm:

MOTR wrote on Feb 9^th, 2013 at 12:53pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 6^th, 2013 at 11:17pm:

I see the red crash helmet lobby is still at it peddling their doom and gloom.

I still see you have nothing of substance to add to the debate.

And you are still peddling the same wheel around.
That's no life for a hamster. Shocked

Global Warming is increasing heat content in the atmosphere: it's all about heat engines!

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Scientists flummoxed by shrinking glaciers. Reply #71 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:05pm Its all about heat engines LOL, no its not, its all about who can sell bullshit, thats what nine tenths of it is all about and not just on global warming on everything else as well, theres the facts and then theres the propaganda, the propaganda war is the one you have to win.
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Re: Scientists flummoxed by shrinking glaciers.
Reply #72 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:20pm

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:05pm:

Its all about heat engines LOL, no its not, its all about who can sell bullshit, thats what nine tenths of it is all about and not just on global warming on everything else as well, theres the facts and then theres the propaganda, the propaganda war is the one you have to win. Wink

Lol, it's about heat engines!

End of story: all energy ends up as heat!

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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: Scientists flummoxed by shrinking glaciers. Reply #73 - Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:42pm Get a job ya bum.
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Reply #74 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 11:30am

Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 4:42pm:

Get a job ya bum.

dOOD, i'VE FINISHED MY HARDSLOG!!

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