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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: 9/11 and the rarely mentioned building 7 collapse Reply #75 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:50pm Freemasons put bombs in ceiling, yep, that’s how you demolish massive buildings, put bombs in the ceiling. Perhaps the building was in on it? Was WTC a freemason?
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Re: 9/11 and the rarely mentioned building 7 collapse
Reply #76 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:14pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

It can't be a controlled demolition because you can't set one up in the time available, without everyone knowing.

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under "national security" need to know basis

this is quite factual as everyone does not know

do you deny this id gizmo?

you had better get some nay sayers on board,

for the way i do observe it this is 3 knowing here

and you 1 denier

the facts remains whether you are on said

" need to know " or not

this was facilitated by marvin bush the security chief

:

Which STILL doesn't account for the amount of wiring, det cord, switches and lumps of plastic explosive needed, being totally invisible to all the people who worked in, and visited, the buildings...now does it???

Yes, there are companies who could have rigged the buildings, but that much equipment and that many demolition workers can't be hidden from view....If someone walks into your office, dragging det-cord, 30 metres of wire and a bread loaf sized packet of plastique, you're going to wonder why...

That's right Gizmo - so explain the controlled demolition then?

Quite simple really...
It WASN'T a controlled demolition. It may have looked similar to one, but since we've established that it couldn't have been one, what does that leave us with??

'Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth'.
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Reply #77 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:04pm

Was the pentagon set-up for total demolition as well?

And it intrigues me, the plane that went down in the paddock, where was that headed?

Was the intended target also rigged for demolition as well?

Is there a building somewhere full of explosives?

If this building is a freemason, imagine what will happen if it finds it’s own detonation button!!!!!

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Reply #78 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:08pm

FriYAY wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:04pm:

Was the pentagon set-up for total demolition as well?

And it intrigues me, the plane that went down in the paddock, where was that headed?

Was the intended target also rigged for demolition as well?

Is there a building somewhere full of explosives?

If this building is a freemason, imagine what will happen if it finds it’s own detonation button!!!!!

Tongue

It was headed FOR the paddock....it was owned by the head freemason, and he wanted it plowed for crop planting..

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Reply #79 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:12pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:25pm:

Which STILL doesn't account for the amount of wiring, det cord, switches and lumps of plastic explosive needed, being totally invisible to all the people who worked in, and visited, the buildings...now does it???

Yes, there are companies who could have rigged the buildings, but that much equipment and that many demolition workers can't be hidden from view....

____________

secret service "need to know" clearance

freemasonic operatives playing dress-ups as

contractors rewiring building turning off power

"power outages" relaying generators so as not

to interrupt 'business as usual' for the unsuspecting

types without a "need to know"

inserting plastique nano thermite and C4 charges

in ceilings and down into wall cavities..

research knowledge is power

there is no argument here for the majority

on this thread now realize that which they did not

'need to know' before

comforted?

sweet

namaste

- : )

None of which (ceilings and wall cavities?? since when do high rise buildings have wall cavities?) are structural...so enough explosives planted in those places, to 'bring down' the building would have blown it into fragments straight way, and a lesser amount would have simply blown out the windows and the false ceilings (so all that would have happened was that building would need a paint job, and a 5hit-load of screen doors)

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Re: 9/11 and the rarely mentioned building 7 collapse
Reply #80 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:59pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:14pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

It can't be a controlled demolition because you can't set one up in the time available, without everyone knowing.

_______________

under "national security" need to know basis

this is quite factual as everyone does not know

do you deny this id gizmo?

you had better get some nay sayers on board,

for the way i do observe it this is 3 knowing here

and you 1 denier

the facts remains whether you are on said

" need to know " or not

this was facilitated by marvin bush the security chief

:

Which STILL doesn't account for the amount of wiring, det cord, switches and lumps of plastic explosive needed, being totally invisible to all the people who worked in, and visited, the buildings...now does it???

Yes, there are companies who could have rigged the buildings, but that much equipment and that many demolition workers can't be hidden from view....If someone walks into your office, dragging det-cord, 30 metres of wire and a bread loaf sized packet of plastique, you're going to wonder why...

That's right Gizmo - so explain the controlled demolition then?

Quite simple really...
It WASN'T a controlled demolition. It may have looked similar to one, but since we've established that it couldn't have been one, what does that leave us with??

'Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth'.
Arthur Conan Doyle

But it was a controlled demolition.
The center of the building collapsed first -
you would have noticed that wouldn't you?

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Reply #81 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:07pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:12pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:25pm:

Which STILL doesn't account for the amount of wiring, det cord, switches and lumps of plastic explosive needed, being totally invisible to all the people who worked in, and visited, the buildings...now does it???

Yes, there are companies who could have rigged the buildings, but that much equipment and that many demolition workers can't be hidden from view....

____________

secret service "need to know" clearance

freemasonic operatives playing dress-ups as

contractors rewiring building turning off power

"power outages" relaying generators so as not

to interrupt 'business as usual' for the unsuspecting

types without a "need to know"

inserting plastique nano thermite and C4 charges

in ceilings and down into wall cavities..

research knowledge is power

there is no argument here for the majority

on this thread now realize that which they did not

'need to know' before

comforted?

sweet

namaste

- : )

None of which (ceilings and wall cavities?? since when do high rise buildings have wall cavities?) are structural...so enough explosives planted in those places, to 'bring down' the building would have blown it into fragments straight way, and a lesser amount would have simply blown out the windows and the false ceilings (so all that would have happened was that building would need a paint job, and a 5hit-load of screen doors)

and you reckon they did that with a couple of cranes Grin

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Reply #82 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:59pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 1:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:16pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:14pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 11:07am:

It can't be a controlled demolition because you can't set one up in the time available, without everyone knowing.

_______________

under "national security" need to know basis

this is quite factual as everyone does not know

do you deny this id gizmo?

you had better get some nay sayers on board,

for the way i do observe it this is 3 knowing here

and you 1 denier

the facts remains whether you are on said

" need to know " or not

this was facilitated by marvin bush the security chief

:

Which STILL doesn't account for the amount of wiring, det cord, switches and lumps of plastic explosive needed, being totally invisible to all the people who worked in, and visited, the buildings...now does it???

Yes, there are companies who could have rigged the buildings, but that much equipment and that many demolition workers can't be hidden from view....If someone walks into your office, dragging det-cord, 30 metres of wire and a bread loaf sized packet of plastique, you're going to wonder why...

That's right Gizmo - so explain the controlled demolition then?

Quite simple really...
It WASN'T a controlled demolition. It may have looked similar to one, but since we've established that it couldn't have been one, what does that leave us with??

'Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the truth'.
Arthur Conan Doyle

But it was a controlled demolition.
The center of the building collapsed first -
you would have noticed that wouldn't you?

gizmo only noticed what george bush told him and that was some guy in an elaborate underground cave in the mountains in afghanistan did it all Grin

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105460 Melbourne Gender:	Re: 9/11 and the rarely mentioned building 7 collapse Reply #83 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:12pm Nail, Quote: Gizmo only noticed what george bush told him and that was some guy in an elaborate underground cave in the mountains in afghanistan did it all Yes Nail, Gizmo is a bit naive. he is forgiven.
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Reply #84 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:25pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 2:12pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:25pm:

Which STILL doesn't account for the amount of wiring, det cord, switches and lumps of plastic explosive needed, being totally invisible to all the people who worked in, and visited, the buildings...now does it???

Yes, there are companies who could have rigged the buildings, but that much equipment and that many demolition workers can't be hidden from view....

____________

secret service "need to know" clearance

freemasonic operatives playing dress-ups as

contractors rewiring building turning off power

"power outages" relaying generators so as not

to interrupt 'business as usual' for the unsuspecting

types without a "need to know"

inserting plastique nano thermite and C4 charges

in ceilings and down into wall cavities..

research knowledge is power

there is no argument here for the majority

on this thread now realize that which they did not

'need to know' before

comforted?

sweet

namaste

- : )

None of which (ceilings and wall cavities?? since when do high rise buildings have wall cavities?) are structural...so enough explosives planted in those places, to 'bring down' the building would have blown it into fragments straight way, and a lesser amount would have simply blown out the windows and the false ceilings (so all that would have happened was that building would need a paint job, and a 5hit-load of screen doors)

and you reckon they did that with a couple of cranes Grin

You don't ever listen, do you nails???

They didn't 'collapse the building using cranes'....they CONTROLLED the fall, using cranes...entirely different thing.

The building was going to fall anyway, and as is normal under the circumstances, it would have tipped over (towards the south or south-west). All the engineers did was apply tension, in a northerly direction, to the top section of the building. This allowed the lowest floors to crumble and the top portion fell straight down when the support dropped away.
Gravity usually causes objects to fall in perpendicular direction, unless something ( in this case the undamaged side of the building) acts to change the angle of descent..

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: 9/11 and the rarely mentioned building 7 collapse Reply #85 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:25pm Is it the same people who believe in climate change conspiracies, also believe in 9/11 conspiracies ? Is there a propensity to be a skeptic in all things if you are from the hard right, or hard left ?
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Reply #86 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:26pm

Bobby. wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:12pm:

Nail,
Quote:

Gizmo only noticed what george bush told him and that was some guy in an elaborate underground cave in the mountains in afghanistan did it all

Yes Nail,
Gizmo is a bit naive.

he is forgiven.

Well I'd rather believe the engineers and investigators (not Bush), than Alex Jones and the assorted dingbats who came up with these conspiracy ideas..

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Reply #87 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:29pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

Is it the same people who believe in climate change conspiracies, also believe in 9/11 conspiracies ?

Is there a propensity to be a skeptic in all things if you are from the hard right, or hard left ?

LOL no Doc...Lastnails and Bobby BELIEVE in Climate Change, AND in the 9/11 conspiracies as well...
Whereas I'm a skeptic about climate change, and don't believe the 9/11 theory that the US government did it..

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Reply #88 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:31pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:29pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

Is it the same people who believe in climate change conspiracies, also believe in 9/11 conspiracies ?

Is there a propensity to be a skeptic in all things if you are from the hard right, or hard left ?

LOL no Doc...Lastnails and Bobby BELIEVE in Climate Change, AND in the 9/11 conspiracies as well...
Whereas I'm a skeptic about climate change, and don't believe the 9/11 theory that the US government did it..

You have selective skeptism then ?

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Reply #89 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:38pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:29pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 3:25pm:

Is it the same people who believe in climate change conspiracies, also believe in 9/11 conspiracies.

Is there a propensity to be a skeptic in all things if you are from the hard right, or hard left ?

LOL no Doc...Lastnails and Bobby BELIEVE in Climate Change, AND in the 9/11 conspiracies as well...
Whereas I'm a skeptic about climate change, and don't believe the 9/11 theory that the US government did it..

At the very least the US government knew the attacks were imminent.

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