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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #30 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:27pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 13th, 2013 at 10:49pm:
Nobody has ever said that a consensus means that a theory or hypothesis is correct.  


Get your head out of the sand Bunny.

"However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it."

http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/climate-change/scientific-consensus-on.html

"scientific consensus"   Grin

You alarmists will never learn.   Roll Eyes 

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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #31 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:30pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 13th, 2013 at 10:49pm:
Nobody has ever said that a consensus means that a theory or hypothesis is correct.  


Get your head out of the sand Bunny.

"However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it."

http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/climate-change/scientific-consensus-on.html

"scientific consensus"   Grin

You alarmists will never learn.   Roll Eyes 


Yes Greggery, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it.  we all know this.

Now please answer the questions:


You claimed AGW hypothesis ignores scientific principles, Greggery.

I am asking you to tell us what scientific principles were ignored.

Nobody has ever said that a consensus means that a theory or hypothesis is correct.  And the fact that there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it does not mean that AGW theory is simply based on this consensus.

AGW theory is based on numerous hypotheses, all of which are supported by a vast body of empirical evidence.

Now please tell us what scientific principles you think were ignored in developing the hypotheses which make up the theory and what scientific principles you think were ignored in the collection of the vast body of empirical evidence which supports these hypotheses.

Can you do that?

Or will you continue trying to avoid explaining these stupid comments you make?
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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #32 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:42pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 13th, 2013 at 10:49pm:
Nobody has ever said that a consensus means that a theory or hypothesis is correct.  


Get your head out of the sand Bunny.

"However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it."

http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/climate-change/scientific-consensus-on.html

"scientific consensus"   Grin

You alarmists will never learn.   Roll Eyes 


Yes Greggery, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it.  we all know this.


I'm afraid "overwhelming scientific consensus" is no guarantee of the truth.

Sorry.

“..scientific issues cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides..” (a response from a scientist that actually took part in the Doran survey).

Stick to science and then, maybe, you AGW alarmists will be taken a little more seriously.

Cheers   Wink
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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #33 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:44pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:42pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:27pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 13th, 2013 at 10:49pm:
Nobody has ever said that a consensus means that a theory or hypothesis is correct.  


Get your head out of the sand Bunny.

"However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it."

http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/climate-change/scientific-consensus-on.html

"scientific consensus"   Grin

You alarmists will never learn.   Roll Eyes 


Yes Greggery, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it.  we all know this.


I'm afraid "overwhelming scientific consensus" is no guarantee of the truth.

Sorry.

“..scientific issues cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides..” (a response from a scientist that actually took part in the Doran survey).

Stick to science and then, maybe, you AGW alarmists will be taken a little more seriously.

Cheers   Wink


Stop running away Greggery.

Please answer the question


You claimed AGW hypothesis ignores scientific principles, Greggery.

I am asking you to tell us what scientific principles were ignored.

Nobody has ever said that a consensus means that a theory or hypothesis is correct.  And the fact that there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it does not mean that AGW theory is simply based on this consensus.

AGW theory is based on numerous hypotheses, all of which are supported by a vast body of empirical evidence.

Now please tell us what scientific principles you think were ignored in developing the hypotheses which make up the theory and what scientific principles you think were ignored in the collection of the vast body of empirical evidence which supports these hypotheses.

Can you do that?

Or will you continue trying to avoid explaining these stupid comments you make?
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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #34 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:48pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:44pm:
Nobody has ever said that a consensus means that a theory or hypothesis is correct. 



Just stick to science, and the facts.  OK?   Smiley

"However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it."

http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/climate-change/scientific-consensus-on.html

This "consensus" nonsense is doing your religion no favours.
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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #35 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:48pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:17pm:
Swagman wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 10:55am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 13th, 2013 at 7:38pm:
Who said anything about making money?

This is not a difficult concept.  Are you being deliberately dense?  Or are you genuinely stupid?

A pollutant is something that occurs in harmful concentrations in a given environment.  Co2 is a pollutant because the CO2 which is a waste product of burning fossil fuels is occurring at harmful concentrations in the atmosphere by contributing to an advanced greenhouse effect.

What exactly don't you understand about that?


Oh here we go.  The same old Lefty tune.  "You don't agree with me, so you have to be stupid." Roll Eyes

CO2 is also a waste product of respiration.  That makes you a pollutant Rabbit? Grin

No - you are stupid because you seem to be deliberately denying a simple fundamental fact

A pollutant is something that occurs in harmful concentrations in a given environment.  Co2 is a pollutant because the CO2 which is a waste product of burning fossil fuels is occurring at harmful concentrations in the atmosphere by contributing to an advanced greenhouse effect.

Why do you find it so hard to understand something most primary school children would know?


Because CO2 has become a pollutant because it suits a particular political agenda.
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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #36 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:53pm
 
Swagman wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:48pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:17pm:
Swagman wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 10:55am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 13th, 2013 at 7:38pm:
Who said anything about making money?

This is not a difficult concept.  Are you being deliberately dense?  Or are you genuinely stupid?

A pollutant is something that occurs in harmful concentrations in a given environment.  Co2 is a pollutant because the CO2 which is a waste product of burning fossil fuels is occurring at harmful concentrations in the atmosphere by contributing to an advanced greenhouse effect.

What exactly don't you understand about that?


Oh here we go.  The same old Lefty tune.  "You don't agree with me, so you have to be stupid." Roll Eyes

CO2 is also a waste product of respiration.  That makes you a pollutant Rabbit? Grin

No - you are stupid because you seem to be deliberately denying a simple fundamental fact

A pollutant is something that occurs in harmful concentrations in a given environment.  Co2 is a pollutant because the CO2 which is a waste product of burning fossil fuels is occurring at harmful concentrations in the atmosphere by contributing to an advanced greenhouse effect.

Why do you find it so hard to understand something most primary school children would know?


Because CO2 has become a pollutant because it suits a particular political agenda.

Co2 has become a pollutant because the CO2 which is a waste product of burning fossil fuels is occurring at harmful concentrations in the atmosphere by contributing to an advanced greenhouse effect.

What does this simple fact have to do with any "political agenda"?!?!
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Reply #37 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:48pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:44pm:
Nobody has ever said that a consensus means that a theory or hypothesis is correct. 



Just stick to science, and the facts.  OK?   Smiley

"However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it."

http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/climate-change/scientific-consensus-on.html

This "consensus" nonsense is doing your religion no favours.

Stop running away Greggery.

Please answer the question


You claimed AGW hypothesis ignores scientific principles, Greggery.

I am asking you to tell us what scientific principles were ignored.

Nobody has ever said that a consensus means that a theory or hypothesis is correct.  And the fact that there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it does not mean that AGW theory is simply based on this consensus.

AGW theory is based on numerous hypotheses, all of which are supported by a vast body of empirical evidence.

Now please tell us what scientific principles you think were ignored in developing the hypotheses which make up the theory and what scientific principles you think were ignored in the collection of the vast body of empirical evidence which supports these hypotheses.

Can you do that?
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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #38 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:55pm
 
Swagman wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:48pm:
Because CO2 has become a pollutant because it suits a particular political agenda.



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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #39 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:03pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:55pm:
Swagman wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 12:48pm:
Because CO2 has become a pollutant because it suits a particular political agenda.



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we are still waiting to find out why you claimed AGW hypothesis ignores scientific principles, Greggery.

I am asking you to tell us what scientific principles were ignored.  Why can't you tell us?

We have already established that you understand that there is an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it.  We all know this.

What we want you to do is tell us what scientific principles you think were ignored.  Why can't you tell us?

Why do you make a silly claim - then run away when asked to explain it?
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Reply #40 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:07pm
 


“..scientific issues cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides..” (a response from a scientist that actually took part in the Doran survey).

Something all alarmists should be aware of.
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Reply #41 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:07pm:
“..scientific issues cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides..” (a response from a scientist that actually took part in the Doran survey).

Something all alarmists should be aware of.

Yes Greggery.  A scientific issue cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides.  That is very correct.

Now how about you stop running away and actually explain to us why you claimed AGW hypothesis ignores scientific principles, Greggery.

What we want you to do is tell us what scientific principles you think were ignored.  Why can't you tell us? 

AGW theory is based on numerous hypotheses, all of which are supported by a vast body of empirical evidence.

Now please tell us what scientific principles you think were ignored in developing the hypotheses which make up the theory and what scientific principles you think were ignored in the collection of the vast body of empirical evidence which supports these hypotheses.

Or do you simply deny the existence of the  vast body of empirical evidence which supports these hypotheses?  Is this wat you call "sticking to science"?  Closing your eyes and blindly denying the existence of the  vast body of empirical evidence which supports these hypotheses.

Come on Greggey.

Stop running away.

Answer the question
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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #42 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:13pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:07pm:
“..scientific issues cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides..” (a response from a scientist that actually took part in the Doran survey).

Something all alarmists should be aware of.



Yes Greggery.  A scientific issue cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides.  That is very correct.




Glad you finally agree.

We're getting somewhere.

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Reply #43 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:16pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:13pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:07pm:
“..scientific issues cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides..” (a response from a scientist that actually took part in the Doran survey).

Something all alarmists should be aware of.



Yes Greggery.  A scientific issue cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides.  That is very correct.




Glad you finally agree.

We're getting somewhere.


I have never disagreed with the above statement.
Stop running away Greggery.

Answer the question

Please tell us what scientific principles you think were ignored in developing the hypotheses which make up the theory and what scientific principles you think were ignored in the collection of the vast body of empirical evidence which supports these hypotheses.


Answer the question
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Reply #44 - Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:20pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:16pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:13pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 14th, 2013 at 1:07pm:
“..scientific issues cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides..” (a response from a scientist that actually took part in the Doran survey).

Something all alarmists should be aware of.



Yes Greggery.  A scientific issue cannot be decided by a vote of scientists. A consensus is not, at any given time, a good predictor of where the truth actually resides.  That is very correct.




Glad you finally agree.

We're getting somewhere.


I have never disagreed with the above statement.



Good to hear.

So, maybe you can tell the other disciples to stop referring to "scientific consensus".  It's just making them look silly (er).
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