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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth Reply #1 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm Lefties think CO2 is a pollutant
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Innocent bystander Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4220 Gender:	Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth Reply #2 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:29pm Lefties are a pollutant.
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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #3 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:35pm

Swagman wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Lefties think CO2 is a pollutant

Everybody who understands what the word "pollutant" means knows CO2 is a pollutant. Just as soil, nutrients, fresh water and most other substances vital for plant growth may also be pollutants.

It has nothing to do with politics. It has everything to do with actually knowing what words mean.

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philperth2010 Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 20359 Perth Gender:	Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth Reply #4 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 8:59pm Who cares.....CO2 is a Greenhouse Gas.....The pollutant argument is irrelevant to AGW!!!
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philperth2010 Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 20359 Perth Gender:	Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth Reply #5 - Feb 11^th, 2013 at 9:01pm Swagman wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm: Lefties think CO2 is a pollutant Do you know what a Greenhouse Gas is??? If CO2 is not a Greenhouse Gas you might have a point!!!
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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #6 - Feb 12^th, 2013 at 9:12am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Lefties think CO2 is a pollutant

Do you know what a Greenhouse Gas is???

If CO2 is not a Greenhouse Gas you might have a point!!!

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Water vapour is a greenhouse gas.

A much more effective greenhouse gas than CO2.

Is water vapour a pollutant? Huh

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth Reply #7 - Feb 12^th, 2013 at 4:20pm Innocent bystander wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:29pm: Lefties are a pollutant. lOL, RIGHTIES LOVE DADDY UNTIL HE GIVES 'EM A HEADSTART IN LIFE!
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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #8 - Feb 12^th, 2013 at 4:21pm

Swagman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Lefties think CO2 is a pollutant

Do you know what a Greenhouse Gas is???

If CO2 is not a Greenhouse Gas you might have a point!!!

Embarrassed

Water vapour is a greenhouse gas.

A much more effective greenhouse gas than CO2.

Is water vapour a pollutant? Huh

wATER vAPOUR IS PART OF A CYCLE: co2 IS NOT!

lOL, JUST SO LOL!

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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #9 - Feb 12^th, 2013 at 4:23pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:35pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Lefties think CO2 is a pollutant

Everybody who understands what the word "pollutant" means knows CO2 is a pollutant. Just as soil, nutrients, fresh water and most other substances vital for plant growth may also be pollutants.

It has nothing to do with politics. It has everything to do with actually knowing what words mean.

INNOCENT BYSTANDER WILL SMOKE UNTIL HIS LUNGS TURN TO GLASS JUST TO TELL YOU THAT HE IS STILL NOT LISTENING!

WOW, CRACK IS SO INTERESTING!! Shocked

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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #10 - Feb 12^th, 2013 at 6:58pm

Swagman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Lefties think CO2 is a pollutant

Do you know what a Greenhouse Gas is???

If CO2 is not a Greenhouse Gas you might have a point!!!

Embarrassed

Water vapour is a greenhouse gas.

A much more effective greenhouse gas than CO2.

Is water vapour a pollutant? Huh

Errrr....no water vapour is not a pollutant.....Glad to clear that up for you!!!

CO2 is a greenhouse gas which is the only relevant point!!!

Roll Eyes

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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #11 - Feb 12^th, 2013 at 8:28pm

More simplistic pseudo science from the global warming deniers.

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However, while experiments on natural ecosystems have also found initial elevations in the rate of plant growth, these have tended to level off within a few years. In most cases this has been found to be the result of some other limiting factor, such as the availability of nitrogen or water.

The regional climate changes that higher CO2 will bring, and their effect on these limiting factors on plant growth, such as water, also have to be taken into account. These indirect effects are likely to have a much larger impact than CO2 fertilisation.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11655-climate-myths-higher-co2-levels-will-boost-plant-growth-and-food-production.html

It is also amusing how the deniers love arguing over semantics. but that is so they can avoid arguing about the science.
"Co2 is not a pollutant"
Anything is a pollutant if you have too much of it.

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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #12 - Feb 13^th, 2013 at 8:51am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 12^th, 2013 at 4:21pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Lefties think CO2 is a pollutant

Do you know what a Greenhouse Gas is???

If CO2 is not a Greenhouse Gas you might have a point!!!

Embarrassed

Water vapour is a greenhouse gas.

A much more effective greenhouse gas than CO2.

Is water vapour a pollutant? Huh

wATER vAPOUR IS PART OF A CYCLE: co2 IS NOT!

lOL, JUST SO LOL!

I think you'll find if you open your right eye once in a while that carbon has a cycle too DRAH

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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #13 - Feb 13^th, 2013 at 8:58am

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 12^th, 2013 at 6:58pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 12^th, 2013 at 9:12am:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 9:01pm:

Swagman wrote on Feb 11^th, 2013 at 12:17pm:

Lefties think CO2 is a pollutant

Do you know what a Greenhouse Gas is???

If CO2 is not a Greenhouse Gas you might have a point!!!

Embarrassed

Water vapour is a greenhouse gas.

A much more effective greenhouse gas than CO2.

Is water vapour a pollutant? Huh

Errrr....no water vapour is not a pollutant.....Glad to clear that up for you!!!

CO2 is a greenhouse gas which is the only relevant point!!!

Roll Eyes

The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments.
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900), The Gay Science, section 191

You can't have it both ways Phil.

From your post you seem to think that CO2 is a pollutant because it is a greenhouse gas. In other words CO2 is a pollutant because it contributes to the greenhouse effect.

Using your rationale water vapour must also be a pollutant because it has a much greater effect on the greenhouse effect. Huh

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Re: The effects of co2 on plant growth
Reply #14 - Feb 13^th, 2013 at 12:06pm

Swagman wrote on Feb 13^th, 2013 at 8:58am:

You can't have it both ways Phil.

From your post you seem to think that CO2 is a pollutant because it is a greenhouse gas. In other words CO2 is a pollutant because it contributes to the greenhouse effect.

Using your rationale water vapour must also be a pollutant because it has a much greater effect on the greenhouse effect. Huh

I believe Phil was slightly off mark. Being a greenhouse gas is not what makes CO2 a pollutant.

A pollutant is something that occurs in harmful concentrations in a given environment. Co2 is a pollutant because the CO2 which is a waste product of burning fossil fuels is occurring at harmful concentrations in the atmosphere by contributing to an advanced greenhouse effect.

Although water vapour would not be considered a pollutant with respect to the natural hydrological cycle - it can still certainly be a pollutant. An example would be if, say, a coal burning power plant were sited in such a way that it's steam emissions directly impacted upon a fragile ecosystem or human infrastructure - eg if it were built at the bottom of a hill and a forest or a town or whatever was at the top of the hill.

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