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Reply #30 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:36am
 
Chard wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 1:55am:
And that totally explains why every high ranking official, civilian and military hides their identity so the "islamists" won't find them...

Oh, wait, none of them do because there's never, not even once, been a case of islamists or anyone else assassinating active duty or retired personnel in the US. You are wrong and need to stop watching so many bad 1980s action flicks.


Yes, and killing Osama was also a first. This is a different kind of war.

Bertram wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:16am:
Chard wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 1:55am:
there's never, not even once, been a case of islamists or anyone else assassinating active duty or retired personnel in the US.




Oh really? Fort Hood is not in the US? Malik Hassan didn't kill 13 US soldiers and army personnel, also wounding 29? He wasn't shouting Allahu Akhbar while killing and wounding them?





But they were trained servicemen. Surely someone couldn't just walk up to them and start shooting? Aren't they taught to dodge bullets or something?
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Reply #31 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 12:33pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:59am:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 9:49am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 6:59am:
Yeah but you are in australia where nobody gets a pension you are 67. That is different in america where you dont get a pension after 16 years but after 20? WTH? Maybe chard can explain it.

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Only you could be totally confused by the fact that you don't get a 20 yr sevice pension at 16 years.  Grin   


It was only in the last few years that Aussie service personnel stopped getting thier 20 year service pensions. Livin the dream on 5/8 of bugger all for the rest of your life, which for the average serviceman was less than the dole or the proper pension.




Yeah thats right - pretend to be confused and think im talking about a 20 year pension @ 16. Why do you have to try and twist things? Do you have nothing to add perhaps? Why not a 16 year pension? I happen to know that you get a pension @ 6 years except you have to wait until you are pension age to claim it. Argh i gotta go

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Because it is 20 years, not 16 or 6 but 20. It does not  affect you so why the tears? It's not like you have served in any military service for any country so the allocation of service pensions isn't really any of your concern, now is it?


Please if you are going to make sh1t up try to not be too outrageous, or at least find a dodgy link (YouTube is quite fashionable these days) to use as 'evidence'.  Grin




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Reply #32 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 12:39pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 8:59am:
KJT1981 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 7:19am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 6:59am:
Karnal wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 1:03am:
Chard wrote on Feb 13th, 2013 at 9:44am:
freediver wrote on Feb 12th, 2013 at 9:34pm:
It's not that hard. You just look him up in the phone book, knock on his door and shoot him. If he still wanted to be hiding under under a log he wouldn't have left the army.


You're talking a guy that supposedly spent sixteen years of life as a member of one of the most elite special operations unit in the world, and the last decade of that the guy was operationally deployed so often that there's a fair chance he's probably killed more men than prostate cancer.


Bid deal. Been there, done that. And they never gave me a pension either.

F*ck Uncle, f*ck Al Qaida, and f*ck the 3rd Royal Australian Regiment.

The only thing worth fighting for is life.


Yeah but you are in australia where nobody gets a pension you are 67. That is different in america where you dont get a pension after 16 years but after 20? WTH? Maybe chard can explain it.

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As usual Miss Borg you have NFI.

http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/enablers/centrelink/age-pension/eligibi...


Go away troll

Haha your link is to aussie aged pension. Just shows im right.

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No Miss Borg, it shows you are friggen wrong.

Go back and read it again.
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Reply #33 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 1:25pm
 
KJT1981 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 7:58am:
JC Denton wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 7:24am:
why the bugger do these americans rock up on here?


Why do New Zealanders?


No no, Matty doesn’t post from New Zealand. They don’t have the internet there.
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Reply #34 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 2:27pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:59am:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 9:49am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 6:59am:
Yeah but you are in australia where nobody gets a pension you are 67. That is different in america where you dont get a pension after 16 years but after 20? WTH? Maybe chard can explain it.

SOB



Only you could be totally confused by the fact that you don't get a 20 yr sevice pension at 16 years.  Grin   


It was only in the last few years that Aussie service personnel stopped getting thier 20 year service pensions. Livin the dream on 5/8 of bugger all for the rest of your life, which for the average serviceman was less than the dole or the proper pension.




Yeah thats right - pretend to be confused and think im talking about a 20 year pension @ 16. Why do you have to try and twist things? Do you have nothing to add perhaps? Why not a 16 year pension? I happen to know that you get a pension @ 6 years except you have to wait until you are pension age to claim it. Argh i gotta go

SOB



Because it is 20 years, not 16 or 6 but 20. It does not  affect you so why the tears? It's not like you have served in any military service for any country so the allocation of service pensions isn't really any of your concern, now is it?


Please if you are going to make sh1t up try to not be too outrageous, or at least find a dodgy link (YouTube is quite fashionable these days) to use as 'evidence'.  Grin






Why are you lying? And you wouldn't have a clue what i have or havent done.

My post wasnt about australia it was about the seal guy that killed bin laden,. '?You would think he would get a pension.

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Re: Seal Team 6 Member has no Pension
Reply #35 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 3:39pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 2:27pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:59am:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 9:49am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 6:59am:
Yeah but you are in australia where nobody gets a pension you are 67. That is different in america where you dont get a pension after 16 years but after 20? WTH? Maybe chard can explain it.

SOB



Only you could be totally confused by the fact that you don't get a 20 yr sevice pension at 16 years.  Grin   


It was only in the last few years that Aussie service personnel stopped getting thier 20 year service pensions. Livin the dream on 5/8 of bugger all for the rest of your life, which for the average serviceman was less than the dole or the proper pension.




Yeah thats right - pretend to be confused and think im talking about a 20 year pension @ 16. Why do you have to try and twist things? Do you have nothing to add perhaps? Why not a 16 year pension? I happen to know that you get a pension @ 6 years except you have to wait until you are pension age to claim it. Argh i gotta go

SOB



Because it is 20 years, not 16 or 6 but 20. It does not  affect you so why the tears? It's not like you have served in any military service for any country so the allocation of service pensions isn't really any of your concern, now is it?


Please if you are going to make sh1t up try to not be too outrageous, or at least find a dodgy link (YouTube is quite fashionable these days) to use as 'evidence'.  Grin






Why are you lying? And you wouldn't have a clue what i have or havent done.

My post wasnt about australia it was about the seal guy that killed bin laden,. '?You would think he would get a pension.

SOB




I know your type very well, you have NEVER served a day in your life.  Smiley


I was also talking about the Navy Seal and US 20 yr service pensions, otherwise I would have stated so.


He and everyone else who has served in the various froces throughout the world that still have 20 year pensions, get their 20 year pension at 20 years an no sooner.


Everyone who enlists in the militart knows this, even if it confounds and distresses you.



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Re: Seal Team 6 Member has no Pension
Reply #36 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 3:46pm
 
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:36am:
Yes, and killing Osama was also a first.


We've been fighting AlQ for over over decade now, closer to two decades if you count all the times President Clinton ordered the US Navy to fire
Tomohawks at AlQ training sites. If AlQ was actually serious about killing ex-servicemen they'd have sacked the hell up and done it already.


freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:36am:
This is a different kind of war.


No, it really isn't a different kind of was. Fighting insurgencies and terrorist isn't even remotely new to warfare.

freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:36am:
Oh really? Fort Hood is not in the US? Malik Hassan didn't kill 13 US soldiers and army personnel, also wounding 29? He wasn't shouting Allahu Akhbar while killing and wounding them?


Major Hassan wasn't a smacking member of Al Qaeda.  He was a terrible soldier and an even worse officer. His fitness reports were such that Army was planning to chapter the guy out. How the f*ck you got assassination by Al Qaeda from a disgruntled soldier going full retard and shooting other personnel is the kind of jump to conclusion that involves catapults.
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Reply #37 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 4:20pm
 
And BigOl64 brings up the third reason for why this guy doesn't have retirement benefits. The only was you're entitled to a pension is if you serve twenty years or more. If true then this guy is a smacking idiot for not serving his full twenty.
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Reply #38 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 4:33pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 3:39pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 2:27pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:59am:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 9:49am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 6:59am:
Yeah but you are in australia where nobody gets a pension you are 67. That is different in america where you dont get a pension after 16 years but after 20? WTH? Maybe chard can explain it.

SOB



Only you could be totally confused by the fact that you don't get a 20 yr sevice pension at 16 years.  Grin   


It was only in the last few years that Aussie service personnel stopped getting thier 20 year service pensions. Livin the dream on 5/8 of bugger all for the rest of your life, which for the average serviceman was less than the dole or the proper pension.




Yeah thats right - pretend to be confused and think im talking about a 20 year pension @ 16. Why do you have to try and twist things? Do you have nothing to add perhaps? Why not a 16 year pension? I happen to know that you get a pension @ 6 years except you have to wait until you are pension age to claim it. Argh i gotta go

SOB



Because it is 20 years, not 16 or 6 but 20. It does not  affect you so why the tears? It's not like you have served in any military service for any country so the allocation of service pensions isn't really any of your concern, now is it?


Please if you are going to make sh1t up try to not be too outrageous, or at least find a dodgy link (YouTube is quite fashionable these days) to use as 'evidence'.  Grin






Why are you lying? And you wouldn't have a clue what i have or havent done.

My post wasnt about australia it was about the seal guy that killed bin laden,. '?You would think he would get a pension.

SOB




I know your type very well, you have NEVER served a day in your life.  Smiley


I was also talking about the Navy Seal and US 20 yr service pensions, otherwise I would have stated so.


He and everyone else who has served in the various froces throughout the world that still have 20 year pensions, get their 20 year pension at 20 years an no sooner.


Everyone who enlists in the militart knows this, even if it confounds and distresses you.





And what exactly is "my type"?

I know "your type" too. You are the ones that think you know everything about everyone without any evidence or reasoning whatsoever. Just "feelings" i expect. Of course you are always wrong but you will never admit it and never ever ever apologise because thats a sign of "weakness".

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Reply #39 - Feb 17th, 2013 at 9:08am
 
Chard wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 3:46pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:36am:
Yes, and killing Osama was also a first.


We've been fighting AlQ for over over decade now, closer to two decades if you count all the times President Clinton ordered the US Navy to fire
Tomohawks at AlQ training sites. If AlQ was actually serious about killing ex-servicemen they'd have sacked the hell up and done it already.


freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:36am:
This is a different kind of war.


No, it really isn't a different kind of was. Fighting insurgencies and terrorist isn't even remotely new to warfare.

freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:36am:
Oh really? Fort Hood is not in the US? Malik Hassan didn't kill 13 US soldiers and army personnel, also wounding 29? He wasn't shouting Allahu Akhbar while killing and wounding them?


Major Hassan wasn't a smacking member of Al Qaeda.  He was a terrible soldier and an even worse officer. His fitness reports were such that Army was planning to chapter the guy out. How the f*ck you got assassination by Al Qaeda from a disgruntled soldier going full retard and shooting other personnel is the kind of jump to conclusion that involves catapults.


Silly me. I forgot there are only two types of war and anything that can be categorised as either type cannot be new.
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Reply #40 - Feb 18th, 2013 at 3:04am
 
freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2013 at 9:08am:
Silly me. I forgot there are only two types of war and anything that can be categorised as either type cannot be new.


No, moron, I said that counter insurgency and counter terror aren't new to warfare. But now that you mention it, no, there aren't, t any new forms of warfare either. It's been done before.
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Reply #41 - Feb 18th, 2013 at 12:33pm
 
Chard wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 3:46pm:
freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:36am:
Yes, and killing Osama was also a first.


We've been fighting AlQ for over over decade now, closer to two decades if you count all the times President Clinton ordered the US Navy to fire
Tomohawks at AlQ training sites. If AlQ was actually serious about killing ex-servicemen they'd have sacked the hell up and done it already.


freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:36am:
This is a different kind of war.


No, it really isn't a different kind of was. Fighting insurgencies and terrorist isn't even remotely new to warfare.

freediver wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:36am:
Oh really? Fort Hood is not in the US? Malik Hassan didn't kill 13 US soldiers and army personnel, also wounding 29? He wasn't shouting Allahu Akhbar while killing and wounding them?


Major Hassan wasn't a smacking member of Al Qaeda.  He was a terrible soldier and an even worse officer. His fitness reports were such that Army was planning to chapter the guy out. How the f*ck you got assassination by Al Qaeda from a disgruntled soldier going full retard and shooting other personnel is the kind of jump to conclusion that involves catapults.



Here's what you actually said, to which freediver gave you a very good response by pointing to the Fort Hood islamist's massacre of active duty US military personnel in the US.

Do pay attention, at least to what you yourself say.


Chard wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 1:55am:
And that totally explains why every high ranking official, civilian and military hides their identity so the "islamists" won't find them...

Oh, wait, none of them do because there's never, not even once, been a case of islamists or anyone else assassinating active duty or retired personnel in the US. You are wrong and need to stop watching so many bad 1980s action flicks.

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Reply #42 - Feb 18th, 2013 at 2:15pm
 
Soren, if you believe the term "assassin" applies to spree killers like Hassen then you're every bit as delusional as Freediver.
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Reply #43 - Feb 18th, 2013 at 2:33pm
 
Chard wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 2:15pm:
Soren, if you believe the term "assassin" applies to spree killers like Hassen then you're every bit as delusional as Freediver.



Yeah, sorry Soren..but spree killers are usually  sociopaths/psychopaths..

Assassins are generally paid professionals.
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Reply #44 - Feb 18th, 2013 at 3:08pm
 
Chard wrote on Feb 18th, 2013 at 2:15pm:
Soren, if you believe the term "assassin" applies to spree killers like Hassen then you're every bit as delusional as Freediver.



He killed in the name of Islam. He was an islamist. He fits your own description.
Assassin, killer, murderer, terrorist, infiltrator, sleeper cell- is hat what you are now debting?

American soldiers have been killed in America by an Islamist. Your "never ever, not once" is incorrect.

BTW, was there any active or retired militart personnel on any of the aircraft or in the Pentagon on 11 September 2001? Or targeting the entire ministry of defence doesn't count ?




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