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Two different muslim patrols in the UK
Feb 12^th, 2013 at 7:32pm

No doubt everyone has heard of the youtube videos of so called muslims "patrolling" the streets of London, harassing women and people with alcohol.

What you have probably not heard was the condemnation it received from bodies representing mainstream muslims in the UK - who describe it as "unislamic":

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The Muslim Council of Britain has rejected the notion that there is any scriptural basis for this type of harassment.

“All of it was very very un-Islamic,” said Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra of the Muslim Council of Britain told The Telegraph.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/muslim-patrol-enforcing-sharia-e-london-article-1.1253893#ixzz2KftrQN00

watch MCB representative condemning muslim patrols:

On a more up-beat note, another type of 'muslim patrol' has been happening - one far more positive and tolerant, and which really *DOES* represent mainstream islam. In the north of England where towns have been affected by severe snowstorms, muslims have been mobilizing themselves to help the community by shovelling snow along the footpaths. Its a small thing, but a nice gesture.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Bertram Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 255	Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK Reply #1 - Feb 12^th, 2013 at 8:27pm Jihad against snow. I like. (or is it because it's white?)
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Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK
Reply #2 - Feb 13^th, 2013 at 2:50am

Oh, no no no. This is simply not possible. Muslim moderates condemning extremists? Muslims helping people in the snow like St Bernard? Whatever next?

There must be something in it for the Muselman - a sinister PR campaign, a cunning ploy, a clever ruse to pull the wool over whitey’s eyes until, when he least expects it, the fuse can be lit.

It is, quite simply, impossible.

Never ever.

Absolutely.

On stilts.

Er, do they hand out brandy? I think the old boy’s had a bit of a turn.

Come to think of it, I’m rather parched myself. Brandies all round, Hamed. Oh, and get the smelling salts out for the cheese dealer. He’s gone the colour of a mass produced camenbert.

He’s usually more like a blue vein, so that’s saying something.

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Big Dave Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2164 Gender:	Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK Reply #3 - Feb 14^th, 2013 at 4:38pm So called Muslim moderates got up after the last Sydney riot fiasco and did the same thing. How about they get up and tackle these idiots instead of waiting for it to happen and then doing something. It makes me wonder why they don't.
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Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK
Reply #4 - Feb 15^th, 2013 at 1:58pm

Big Dave wrote on Feb 14^th, 2013 at 4:38pm:

So called Muslim moderates got up after the last Sydney riot fiasco and did the same thing. How about they get up and tackle these idiots instead of waiting for it to happen and then doing something. It makes me wonder why they don't.

You used to wonder why they didn’t speak up at all.

Like to wonder, don’t you, Big Dave?

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Big Dave Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2164 Gender:	Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK Reply #5 - Feb 15^th, 2013 at 3:14pm I do like to wonder Karnal. what's the use of condemning when the action has occurred? Maybe you need to wonder a bit?
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Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK
Reply #6 - Feb 15^th, 2013 at 4:54pm

Big Dave wrote on Feb 14^th, 2013 at 4:38pm:

So called Muslim moderates got up after the last Sydney riot fiasco and did the same thing. How about they get up and tackle these idiots instead of waiting for it to happen and then doing something. It makes me wonder why they don't.

They, like everybody else, are afraid of people who carry signs about beheading people who disagree with them. When one side threatens the other with death, the conversation is over.
Moderate Muslim will be shrill and pouting and shouting at anyone who doesn't threaten to kill them, which is practically everyone - other than their co-religionists. SO welcome to Islam's civil war. You didn't want to be invited, let alone attend, but sorry, it's home delivered whether you want it or not.
Brian says it's the rich tapestry and diversity and we are the world and all that. (But he's a dog, so he has no idea, really.)

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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95296 Gender:	Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK Reply #7 - Mar 9^th, 2013 at 7:09pm Ah yes, old boy, but you wanted to be invited, didn’t you? You love a nice war. Dust off the old uniform, polish up that spiked helmet and wax up the saddle. Keep it warm for some hot aktion, dear. Mother will be home later.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK Reply #8 - Mar 10^th, 2013 at 12:27am When one side threatens to kill the other, the conversation is over. But to you, that's just a case of insensitivity by the threatened party. A gaybo as the defender of the immersers-in-sh!t-of-gaybos - a marvellous post-modern novelty, innit? Thank you Michel, merci, Roland.
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Karnal Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95296 Gender:	Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK Reply #9 - Mar 10^th, 2013 at 2:18am Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2013 at 12:27am: A gaybo as the defender of the immersers-in-sh!t-of-gaybos - a marvellous post-modern novelty, innit? A stool marinade? Well, yes. I imagine it would be quite a novelty. Are you thinking of opening a resturant?
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Reply #10 - Mar 10^th, 2013 at 8:15pm

Karnal wrote on Mar 10^th, 2013 at 2:18am:

Soren wrote on Mar 10^th, 2013 at 12:27am:

A gaybo as the defender of the immersers-in-sh!t-of-gaybos - a marvellous post-modern novelty, innit?

A stool marinade? Well, yes. I imagine it would be quite a novelty.

Are you thinking of opening a resturant?

For people like you? Good idea.

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Reply #11 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 8:24am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 12^th, 2013 at 7:32pm:

No doubt everyone has heard of the youtube videos of so called muslims "patrolling" the streets of London, harassing women and people with alcohol.

What you have probably not heard was the condemnation it received from bodies representing mainstream muslims in the UK - who describe it as "unislamic":

You're another one who is grasping at this straw in the vain hope of saving 'Islam' from the condemnation it deserves.

To any thinking person it is totally obvious that the local Muslims allowed this to happen without any let or hindrance.

The local imams, community elders, and lay congregation could easily have stopped this small group of fellow Muslims from harassing the public as they walked through this neighbourhood.

It was only a matter of a delegation of senior Muslims and clergy approaching these street thugs to tell them to desist forthwith with what they were doing as it was counter-productive and bad PR for the 'good name' of Islam.

And if this group of street Islamists refused to stop doing what they were doing, then the senior Muslims could easily have appointed a group of young Muslims to accompany these delinquents and act as Human Shields to protect the general public from their intimidatory behaviour.

But instead, the Muslim hypocrites who sought to present a 'disapproving' stance against these street bully-boys were in fact their collaborators and facilitators for deciding to do nothing about it.

They did nothing themselves, and lodged no complaint with the police that this group was acting illegally in the public domain of the local neighbourhood.

Why? ~ Because basically they were in agreement with this group, and could not fault them on Islamic law.

As for the London police, the mayor, and the politicians ~ it doesn't need saying that all of these pathetic 'guardians of the public interest' failed miserably by refusing to arrest these vigilante Muslims and lock them up under a whole swathe of Public Nuisance charges.

Sorry, gandalf, but your little propaganda effort to white-wash Islam has once again backfired on you. You've shot yourself in the foot.

But otherwise ... keep on truckin' and Have a Noice Day. Cool

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Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK
Reply #12 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 8:41am

Big Dave wrote on Feb 14^th, 2013 at 4:38pm:

So called Muslim moderates got up after the last Sydney riot fiasco and did the same thing. How about they get up and tackle these idiots instead of waiting for it to happen and then doing something. It makes me wonder why they don't.

Where were the 'Muslim moderates' when the police and the general public needed some Human Shields to protect them against the Brothers who were chucking a riot in Sydney?

Nowhere to be seen.

And we know they all carry mobile phones and can summon car-loads of their friends at a moment's notice.

Where were they?

All huddled together at the Lakemba mosque busily nutting out some face-saving statement for the media in defence of the 'good name' of Islam.

They are all part of the same bat colony. Despite their internal squabbling, at the end of the day they all hang together as a unified collective against the Unbeliever.

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Reply #13 - Apr 30^th, 2013 at 9:58pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 25^th, 2013 at 8:41am:

Big Dave wrote on Feb 14^th, 2013 at 4:38pm:

So called Muslim moderates got up after the last Sydney riot fiasco and did the same thing. How about they get up and tackle these idiots instead of waiting for it to happen and then doing something. It makes me wonder why they don't.

Where were the 'Muslim moderates' when the police and the general public needed some Human Shields to protect them against the Brothers who were chucking a riot in Sydney?

Nowhere to be seen.

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Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.
Moslems, 'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

What i want to know, is when the Sydney moslem community later held a press conference, why didn't the spokesmen unequivocally 'condemn' the Sydney CBD protesters ???

e.g. with a statement like this....

"We the moslem community condemn this incitement to murder, by persons purporting to be moslems."

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Chimp_Logic Gold Member Offline πολιτικός Posts: 4826 Mawson Base Gender:	Re: Two different muslim patrols in the UK Reply #14 - Apr 30^th, 2013 at 10:48pm Yadda Do you support the resistance movement in Palestine? You seem to be very passionate about freedom, human rights and justice
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