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Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling.
Reply #30 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:19am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 7:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 5:28am:

hadrian_now wrote on Feb 17^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

I think the issue is, it's increasingly difficult for people to get into home ownership within a reasonable distance of the major cities or major suburban/industrial areas without:
1. taking out mortgages they may not be able to sustain in times of financial stress (someone will always sell them one)
2. either putting off having a family until middle age or being prepared to put their kids into extra-long day care & after-school care while they both work all hours of the day.

I don't think the above is an exaggeration, but some might disagree. Of course if one or more is in highly paid occupations it'a different ball game, but I'm talking about average workers here.

Possible solutions:
1. have generous in-laws prepared to house you for years while you save up because it must be hard as hell to save with Sydney rents.
2. after the war (WW2 that is) many people lived in garages for a long time, but I don't think that is allowed now.
3. move to country areas where there is work and housing is cheaper, but in a lot of cases it isn't cheaper anymore. And there is a disadvantage often with the less availability of services like medical

Just a few thoughts.

Yeah rural areas have no transport and other things (like choice of schools etc) and there is less work but the house prices are just as high in most places.

SOB

except that they arent, just another thing you made up.

http://www.realestate.com.au/buy

SOB

You might want to look again...
Mosman: 3 bedroom, 1 bath from $1.5 million
Cootamundra: 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 2 car spaces (2 years old) $319,000

http://ronloiterton.com.au/search/results.aspx?class=1&agtid=1577

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75439 Gender:	Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling. Reply #31 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:34am here's another one for those who want cheap property ... surely you don't think $99g is to much for a house and over 600m2 of land? http://ronloiterton.com.au/search/display.aspx?ln=1557187
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Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling.
Reply #32 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:39am

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:34am:

here's another one for those who want cheap property ... surely you don't think $99g is to much for a house and over 600m2 of land?

http://ronloiterton.com.au/search/display.aspx?ln=1557187

yep. and the average rental income around here is about $230.00 per week for a 3 bedroom house

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Reply #33 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:50am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:34am:

here's another one for those who want cheap property ... surely you don't think $99g is to much for a house and over 600m2 of land?

http://ronloiterton.com.au/search/display.aspx?ln=1557187

yep. and the average rental income around here is about $230.00 per week for a 3 bedroom house

sounds like a good return.

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Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling.
Reply #34 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 10:03am

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:34am:

here's another one for those who want cheap property ... surely you don't think $99g is to much for a house and over 600m2 of land?

When I click on your link my WOT (Web Of Trust) Firefox extension tells me that the site is unsafe.

I would post a screenshot but I don't have enough posts to allow me to posts links or attachments yet. I even had to remove the link from my quote of your post.

I find that rather ironic for a real estate company. Grin

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Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling.
Reply #35 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:23am

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:34am:

here's another one for those who want cheap property ... surely you don't think $99g is to much for a house and over 600m2 of land?

http://ronloiterton.com.au/search/display.aspx?ln=1557187

yep. and the average rental income around here is about $230.00 per week for a 3 bedroom house

sounds like a good return.

all of which powerfully disproves SOB's assertion. However, I fdind that most people start with the assumpt that anything SOB says is wrong unless he provides evidence to prove it. And it is a pretty accurate resumption as well.

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Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling.
Reply #36 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:35am

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:23am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:50am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:39am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:34am:

here's another one for those who want cheap property ... surely you don't think $99g is to much for a house and over 600m2 of land?

http://ronloiterton.com.au/search/display.aspx?ln=1557187

yep. and the average rental income around here is about $230.00 per week for a 3 bedroom house

sounds like a good return.

all of which powerfully disproves SOB's assertion. However, I fdind that most people start with the assumpt that anything SOB says is wrong unless he provides evidence to prove it. And it is a pretty accurate resumption as well.

What was my assertion? Seriously didnt even mention rental income.

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Reply #37 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:40am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 7:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 5:28am:

hadrian_now wrote on Feb 17^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

I think the issue is, it's increasingly difficult for people to get into home ownership within a reasonable distance of the major cities or major suburban/industrial areas without:
1. taking out mortgages they may not be able to sustain in times of financial stress (someone will always sell them one)
2. either putting off having a family until middle age or being prepared to put their kids into extra-long day care & after-school care while they both work all hours of the day.

I don't think the above is an exaggeration, but some might disagree. Of course if one or more is in highly paid occupations it'a different ball game, but I'm talking about average workers here.

Possible solutions:
1. have generous in-laws prepared to house you for years while you save up because it must be hard as hell to save with Sydney rents.
2. after the war (WW2 that is) many people lived in garages for a long time, but I don't think that is allowed now.
3. move to country areas where there is work and housing is cheaper, but in a lot of cases it isn't cheaper anymore. And there is a disadvantage often with the less availability of services like medical

Just a few thoughts.

Yeah rural areas have no transport and other things (like choice of schools etc) and there is less work but the house prices are just as high in most places.

SOB

except that they arent, just another thing you made up.

http://www.realestate.com.au/buy

SOB

You might want to look again...
Mosman: 3 bedroom, 1 bath from $1.5 million
Cootamundra: 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 2 car spaces (2 years old) $319,000

http://ronloiterton.com.au/search/results.aspx?class=1&agtid=1577

Yeah but when you arent dishonest and comparing extremes you will find its about the same in the country rural areas and suburbs of the cities. Most anyway i doubt it costs much for a 5 BR house in dirranbandi.

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Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling.
Reply #38 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:46am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:19am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 9:09am:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 7:57am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 5:28am:

hadrian_now wrote on Feb 17^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

I think the issue is, it's increasingly difficult for people to get into home ownership within a reasonable distance of the major cities or major suburban/industrial areas without:
1. taking out mortgages they may not be able to sustain in times of financial stress (someone will always sell them one)
2. either putting off having a family until middle age or being prepared to put their kids into extra-long day care & after-school care while they both work all hours of the day.

I don't think the above is an exaggeration, but some might disagree. Of course if one or more is in highly paid occupations it'a different ball game, but I'm talking about average workers here.

Possible solutions:
1. have generous in-laws prepared to house you for years while you save up because it must be hard as hell to save with Sydney rents.
2. after the war (WW2 that is) many people lived in garages for a long time, but I don't think that is allowed now.
3. move to country areas where there is work and housing is cheaper, but in a lot of cases it isn't cheaper anymore. And there is a disadvantage often with the less availability of services like medical

Just a few thoughts.

Yeah rural areas have no transport and other things (like choice of schools etc) and there is less work but the house prices are just as high in most places.

SOB

except that they arent, just another thing you made up.

http://www.realestate.com.au/buy

SOB

You might want to look again...
Mosman: 3 bedroom, 1 bath from $1.5 million
Cootamundra: 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 2 car spaces (2 years old) $319,000

http://ronloiterton.com.au/search/results.aspx?class=1&agtid=1577

Yeah but when you arent dishonest and comparing extremes you will find its about the same in the country rural areas and suburbs of the cities. Most anyway i doubt it costs much for a 5 BR house in dirranbandi.

SOB

so then house prices AREN'T as high in the country as they are in the cities???

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Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling.
Reply #39 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:46am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 5:28am:

hadrian_now wrote on Feb 17^th, 2013 at 4:12pm:

I think the issue is, it's increasingly difficult for people to get into home ownership within a reasonable distance of the major cities or major suburban/industrial areas without:
1. taking out mortgages they may not be able to sustain in times of financial stress (someone will always sell them one)
2. either putting off having a family until middle age or being prepared to put their kids into extra-long day care & after-school care while they both work all hours of the day.

I don't think the above is an exaggeration, but some might disagree. Of course if one or more is in highly paid occupations it'a different ball game, but I'm talking about average workers here.

Possible solutions:
1. have generous in-laws prepared to house you for years while you save up because it must be hard as hell to save with Sydney rents.
2. after the war (WW2 that is) many people lived in garages for a long time, but I don't think that is allowed now.
3. move to country areas where there is work and housing is cheaper, but in a lot of cases it isn't cheaper anymore. And there is a disadvantage often with the less availability of services like medical

Just a few thoughts.

Yeah rural areas have no transport and other things (like choice of schools etc) and there is less work but the house prices are just as high in most places.

SOB

Air port, buses, shanks pony.

School - 2 private 2 state primary schools - walking distance.

Work - plenty.

Houses - across the street 3 BR, new kitchen, pool, city center in walking distance, schools as well. $210-230K

FAIL...

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75439 Gender:	Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling. Reply #40 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:49am this may be a stupid question, but what the fcks a shank pony? FriYAY wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:46am: shanks pony
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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling. Reply #41 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:58am John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:49am: this may be a stupid question, but what the fcks a shank pony? FriYAY wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:46am: shanks pony Walking..
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75439 Gender:	Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling. Reply #42 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 12:01pm FriYAY wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:58am: John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:49am: this may be a stupid question, but what the fcks a shank pony? FriYAY wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 11:46am: shanks pony Walking..
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Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling.
Reply #43 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 12:08pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 8:00am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 17^th, 2013 at 10:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 17^th, 2013 at 5:54pm:

you seem to be confused .. I'm not blaming anyone for the 'ridiculous' property prices .. thats what you are doing...

You are. Your argument is to blame a 20 yo for not buying a house 30 years ago !!

That's how stupid your argument is.

I see comprehension is a problem for you? The fact that you didn't buy a house 30 yrs ago has done nothing to affect the price today .. it merely affects yours ability to pay rent upon retirement. Good luck with that by the way.

Why don't you stick to the original thread topic instead of criticizing anyone whose opinion you don't like. What is your actual solution to the problem ?

Invent a time machine and go back in time and buy ?

Could you actually suggest something of value instead of coming here and boasting about your bullshit investment strategy in the past that has now got the country into 1.3 trillions worth of housing debt and pushed up prices to ridiculous levels Sad

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 75439 Gender:	Re: Housing Remains Unaffordable - Many Struggling. Reply #44 - Feb 18^th, 2013 at 12:16pm Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 12:08pm: Why don't you stick to the original thread topic instead of criticizing anyone whose opinion you don't like. What is your actual solution to the problem ? but I'm not the one claiming there is a problem .... you are!
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