KJT1981 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 8:48am:


Go away troll

SOB

Asylum and the refugee problem has the age-old "Push" v "Pull" areas to it.

The push factor - war, famine, regime change etc is outside of Australia's influence and ability to do anything.

Therefore what we need to do as a country is address the pull factor.
You won't change the fact there are these people, what you do is make it harder, less attractive for Australia as a place for them to go.

Literally kick the can further down the road - they will still be a problem, you just make them someone's else's problem.

That's what France does in pushing them all through the Channel ports and on to England.

Therefore, Australia could easily take the following steps -

1) Make the Australian mainland the ONLY place where asylum is able to be sought. Remove Christmas Island and the outlying territories and all of a sudden the journey by rickety boat get that much tougher. They can get to Christmas Island, getting to the mainland is not so easy.

2) Immediate detention for a minimum 5 years before processing to ensure there is less of a security risk. If people know they will be in detention for 5 years before they are even seen, it may make them think.

3) No recourse whatsoever for families to join them. If they are so in danger, then leaving their families behind may not be something they want to do - and again will make them think of somewhere else.

4) No ability to become permanent residents. If they are an asylum seeker, then they can remain one in Australia and as soon as their country is deemed returned to normal, they are removed and put back there.


Like I said, the pull factors are all that can be addressed and if you make the country tougher, harder and less attractive you may see the inclination to go to Australia less so and for them to consider heading to Europe or other places.

That's my take on the world anyway.

olde.sault wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 7:33am:


I doubt any of these are 'personal' experiences, olde.sault, as at least three were reported in local and daily newspapers.
I will give the benefit of the doubt to the "almost punch-up" as being from personal experience.
I did notice, olde.sault, that you weren't forthcoming with any experiences.

After all, if you can't trust the word of a MB poster, what can you trust??

Lobo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2013 at 2:29pm:


for that froggie i'll give you another one.

2011, family living in housing comission in kingston ,logan.
i wont give you the exact address.
well known family in logan, true bogans with lots of relatives in the area.
relatives of theirs from goodna got flooded. come and stay , including a family in a caravan in the back yard.
dont declare the "new housemates " to qld housing commision"

evicted for this (fairly harsh but rules is rules)

replaced with an african family (alright , not strictly boaties)

now how do you think this goes for creating harmony in a suburb full of "not very intelligent " people.

do you think these sort of incidents are perhaps A LITTLE F"ING STUPID in terms of promoting racial harmony.  evicting flood victims with 100's of relatives in the area and installing a family of noobs.

you gotta be kidding me.

the racial riots in douglas street,
the aboriginal family that were moved out of the street because of riots with a samoan family down the street .

replaced with another aboriginal family.

you couldnt make up policies as crazy as these.


anyway , over to you, lets hear about the assylum seeker problems in toorak and double bay.
oh thats right, governments dont put people where the chattering classes live.  how odd 

How many Moroccans seek asylum in Australia?

olde.sault wrote on Feb 18^th, 2013 at 2:48pm:


"olde and salty" people are where the diseases are at.